nVidia GTX 670 appearing in shops.

[Stuka87]

Ofcourse not. Amd and Nvidia want to kill overclocking

Pretty sure you just mean nVidia. AMD's don't have limits placed on them like the 680 does. Well unless you get a card that is not intended for overclocking due to poor coolers so they have the voltage locked down. But thats not AMD, thats the partner.

 

[Subyman]

Analyzed the photo with photoshop and dumped the EXIF data, looks legit. I've seen many typos on computer hardware boxes, so that's nothing new.

 

[jmgamer]

Just need to know how much.

Anybody think a 670 will go for $380 or less at launch? If not, then ordering a 7850 today,

 

[digitaldurandal]

389.99 is my guess at your best launch price. GL

 

[Wattser93]

Probably in between the HD 7950 and 7970 but closer to the 7970, but sure. It will probably be 15% slower than the GTX 680. Alas, the GTX 680 is ~8% faster than the HD 7970.

To be fair, the 680 ships clocked highly with the "boost" that overclocks on the fly, while the 7970 ships heavily underclocked, and has adjustable voltage. If you overclock both cards, they trade blows depending on the game.

I was waiting on the GTX670 and got impatient, my 7970 will be here tomorrow.

Once the reviews roll in it should be interesting to see how well the GTX670 performs at its price range. At $400, I would personally opt to spend the extra $100 and get a GTX680, but I understand that isn't financially feasible for everybody.

The location of the power connector is odd IMO. It's looks nice when the wiring is tucked up against the case rather that coming out of the middle of the card. I'd guess Nvidia couldn't make it fit on the end without making the case bigger, and opted to save space and relocate it. No shame in that.

 

[Don Karnage]

Nvidia would be crazy not to price it at 399.99

 

[toyota]

Nvidia would be crazy not to price it at 399.99

and I would be crazy to pay that much for it.

 

[blastingcap]

and I would be crazy to pay that much for it.

cuda
physx
better SLI
surround without adapters
cooler
quieter
more power efficient
adaptive vsync
gpu boost
better compatibility due to gamedev relations, especially in TWIMTBP games
better performance in some of the most popular games like bf3

Did I miss anything?

 

[toyota]

cuda
physx
better SLI
surround without adapters
cooler
quieter
more power efficient
adaptive vsync
gpu boost
better compatibility due to gamedev relations, especially in TWIMTBP games
better performance in some of the most popular games like bf3

Did I miss anything?

you are joking right. I did not need a run down from a marketing standpoint. I said I would be crazy to pay that much and do believe that since I only paid 260 bucks for my gtx570. the gtx670 will cost me over 50% more than that old last gen card just for a 30-35% increase from a next gen card? no thank you because I am looking for a real upgrade and at least around the same as what I paid 7 months ago for the gtx570.

physx already have that now with gtx570

better SLI don't care about SLI

surround without adapters don't care about surround

cooler my current gpu already runs cool

quieter my non reference cooler is already quiet

more power efficient yes but that does not justify the upgrade

adaptive vsync already have that now with gtx570

gpu boost that would be a stupid reason to upgrade

better compatibility due to gamedev relations, especially in TWIMTBP games already have that now with gtx570

better performance in some of the most popular games like bf3 already have that now with gtx570

and you forgot FXAA and Ambient Occlusion which I already have on my gtx570

 

[exar333]

you are joking right. I did not need a run down from a marketing standpoint. I said I would be crazy to pay that much and do believe that since I only paid 260 bucks for my gtx570. the gtx670 will cost me over 50% more than that old last gen card just for a 30-35% increase from a next gen card? no thank you because I am looking for a real upgrade and at least around the same as what I paid 7 months ago for the gtx570.

physx already have that now with gtx570

better SLI don't care about SLI

surround without adapters don't care about surround

cooler my current gpu already runs cool

quieter my non reference cooler is already quiet

more power efficient yes but that does not justify the upgrade

adaptive vsync already have that now with gtx570

gpu boost that would be a stupid reason to upgrade

better compatibility due to gamedev relations, especially in TWIMTBP games already have that now with gtx570

better performance in some of the most popular games like bf3 already have that now with gtx570

You obviously represent the entire market. Maybe you should let NV know this product will not sell because you say so? Your comments are plain silly...

 

[toyota]

You obviously represent the entire market. Maybe you should let NV know this product will not sell because you say so? Your comments are plain silly...

what the hell are you talking about? perhaps you should pay attention instead of mouthing off. I said that I would be crazy to pay that much and then he quotes me listing general reasons to get a gtx670. most of those reasons mean nothing to me or flat out don't even apply. I dont give a rat's behind if you and everybody else buys one as all I was saying that for me it its not worth it.

 

[OCGuy]

Going to be a great card. nV is on top if its game. TSMC needs to get on top as well.

 

[Annisman*]

Lol toyota got crapped on for no good reason at all

 

[Zebo]

What's funny is AMD is gonna have to lower 7950 price again. It won't be long before 7870 costs more than 7950 at this rate. It's only about $20 difference now.

 

[Jaydip]

It would be a nice move from AMD if they introduce a 399$ 1.5 GB 7970.That would be a pretty intelligent move IMO.

 

[Zebo]

It would be a nice move from AMD if they introduce a 399$ 1.5 GB 7970.That would be a pretty intelligent move IMO.

AMD really never priced anything to move this gen. Maybe they are selling all they can make so this may not be applicable but from into 7870 should have been $300, 7950 $400, 7970 $500 and they would have moved like crazy. nVidia, playing poker with cards face up, just undercuts their top cards in price and performance and makes AMD look greedy. Not to mention people held off at about 60% price increases over last generations equivalents to see what nvidia was going to bring.

 

[ShadowVVL]

card looks nice,any benchmarks ?

 

[toyota]

card looks nice,any benchmarks ?

tomorrow you can get all the benchmarks you want...

 

[Zebo]

I'm in for 8% faster on average than 7950. Anyone else want to take a stab?

 

[ShadowVVL]

tomorrow you can get all the benchmarks you want...

Don't make me wait I'll get all sweaty:'(

 

[Jaydip]

AMD really never priced anything to move this gen. Maybe they are selling all they can make so this may not be applicable but from into 7870 should have been $300, 7950 $400, 7970 $500 and they would have moved like crazy. nVidia, playing poker with cards face up, just undercuts their top cards in price and performance and makes AMD look greedy. Not to mention people held off at about 60% price increases over last generations equivalents to see what nvidia was going to bring.

Well the 680's price was really unexpected from NV.They normally charge premium for their products but this time they went off the route.At my place 7970 was too close to 590 and 6990 in terms of price.Even now it costs more than 680.

 

[SpeedyGonzales]

Well the 680's price was really unexpected from NV.They normally charge premium for their products but this time they went off the route.At my place 7970 was too close to 590 and 6990 in terms of price.Even now it costs more than 680.

They still charge premium (and massive btw), because what they call a GTX680 is just a GTX660TI.

30-35% performance increase (vs. 580) with a new generation on a new node (28mn) is piss poor. Only reason: GTX 680 was always planned to be upper midrange and was re-named once Nvidia saw how bad the 7970 is performing (at stock speeds, compared to previous generation).

I think everybody at Nvidia is still rofl that they are able to sell us a midrange card for (nearly) premium prices. At least they could not start with $600.

P.S.: purchased my GTX470 for €300 2 months after it came out, now this card is 2 generations old. It should be possible to get twice the perfomance at the same price. This is not possible, because either AMD/Nvidia are charging us premiums or the cost of production on the new node are still too high. Probably both is true.

 

[Jaydip]

They still charge premium (and massive btw), because what they call a GTX680 is just a GTX660TI.

30-35% performance increase (vs. 580) with a new generation on a new node (28mn) is piss poor. Only reason: GTX 680 was always planned to be upper midrange and was re-named once Nvidia saw how bad the 7970 is performing (at stock speeds, compared to previous generation).

I think everybody at Nvidia is still rofl that they are able to sell us a midrange card for (nearly) premium prices. At least they could not start with $600.

P.S.: purchased my GTX470 for €300 2 months after it came out, now this card is 2 generations old. It should be possible to get twice the perfomance at the same price. This is not possible, because either AMD/Nvidia are charging us premiums or the cost of production on the new node are still too high. Probably both is true.

Gtx 470 was on 40nm and 680 is on 28nm,thats one generation right
U are probably counting the Gtx 5xx series as a new generation.If i 'm not mistaken the 680 was called 670ti inside NV.

 

[SpeedyGonzales]

Gtx 470 was on 40nm and 680 is on 28nm,thats one generation right
U are probably counting the Gtx 5xx series as a new generation.If i 'm not mistaken the 680 was called 670ti inside NV.

Possible, yes. At least Nvidia has not doubled prices, but the situation has allowed them to increase by roughly a factor of 1,5.

A lot of indicators show (die size, GPGPU capabilities), that the GTX680 was never planned to be a GTX 680. As I said, at least Nvidia is not able to charge $600 for something, that was planned to be upper midrange, but for sure they charge more, than what they did in previous generations.

I do understand people are exited about a new generation of GPUs, but I can only recommend to wait with a purchase (if possible).

 

[Arzachel]

Possible, yes. At least Nvidia has not doubled prices, but the situation has allowed them to increase by roughly a factor of 1,5.

A lot of indicators show (die size, GPGPU capabilities), that the GTX680 was never planned to be a GTX 680. As I said, at least Nvidia is not able to charge $600 for something, that was planned to be upper midrange, but for sure they charge more, than what they did in previous generations.

I do understand people are exited about a new generation of GPUs, but I can only recommend to wait with a purchase (if possible).

I don't understand this line of thinking. What was planned is absolutely irrevalent because for some reason or other Big Kepler is broken and won't be released without at least a base layer respin which would put it at a September release at the very earliest. The only difference is that is that instead of calling it the 670ti to save face, they are calling it the 680 because AMD lowballed the clocks on their cards to get better yields. Something that Nvidia is still seemingly struggling with.

And if you look at the Perf/w increase this gen, you'd understand that the gains are as large as ever but neither AMD nor Nvidia have the luxury of pumping twice the power in their cards anymore. You can still get the huge performance increases you're used to, just have to do it manualy by overclocking.