nVidia GTX570 reviews roundup

[thilanliyan]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4051/nvidias-geforce-gtx-570-filling-in-the-gaps
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20080/1?preview=ff668b34fde0b92aef088e9b53c61dff

Similar to a GTX480 but with lower power consumption. Good to see.
I'll add more as they come in.

http://hwt.dk/literaturedetails.aspx?LiteratureID=17748 (in Danish)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806.html
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/wi...eemed-Faster-than-GTX-480-Review-171029.shtml
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...iews/38626-nvidia-geforce-gtx-570-review.html
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-review
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...idia-geforce-gtx-570-review-introduction.html
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=22392
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1482/17/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_570/1.html
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=157771


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[amenx]

Great card. Temps, noise, power consumption similar to 5870, but performance = 480. Nvidia has a winner.

 

[happy medium]

$350? not bad.

 

[Axon]

Already up for sale at newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130593

AMD best come strong with the 6900 series.

 

[notty22]

I agree, does everything the gtx 480 did. Nice increases over the gtx 470.
Comes in at the old gtx 470 release price.

 

[Xcobra]

Wow, good for Nv. I will wait for the HD6900 and see how they stack up. Otherwise, looks like I might stay with Nv this time around.

 

[nyker96]

I like this 570, priced just right to replace old 480.

 

[Sickamore]

I am very impressed with this card. 480 performance at $350. It kills 5870 also. 580 meets 6970. 570 meets 6950.

 

[RussianSensation]

I am very impressed with this card. 480 performance at $350. It kills 5870 also. 580 meets 6970. 570 meets 6950.

I wouldn't say it "kills" the 5870. 5870 came out in September of 2009. This card is about 15-20% faster but it is being released 15 months later.... Considering you can get an HD5870 for $250 on Newegg, how is that "killing" the 5870? Overall, GTX570/580 should have been called GTX475 and 485, respectively.

The fact that it's cheaper than the $430 GTX480 only highlights how overpriced the 480 was all this time (you could have picked up 2x GTX470s for the price of a single 480 ). It's hard to recommend the 570 for $350 when you can get a $250 HD5870 or a $400 HD6850 CF setup; and I am sure we'll see GTX470 at $200 to clear inventory soon. I suppose the credit to NV can be given for having cards in stock on launch day and for giving the consumers GTX480 level of performance for cheaper. AMD on the other hand tried to push 6850/70s as replacements for $129 5750 and $159 HD5770....that didn't quite work out when 6870 costs as much as the faster 5870.

580 meets 6970. 570 meets 6950.

I am hoping HD6950/70 are faster than expected though or we might be stuck at $499 GTX580 pricing for at least 6-8 months.

 

[Sickamore]

Good point there RS. What's really interesting is that tones of complaining about heat,noise, and power draw was a concern for the 470. What I noticed the 570 is the same in those three areas with the 470.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Good overall improvements. It is nice to see performance coming cheaper and with less associated problems, ie, high power consumption and noise.

Now the ball is on AMD court.

 

[RussianSensation]

Good point there RS. What's really interesting is that tones of complaining about heat,noise, and power draw was a concern for the 470. What I noticed the 570 is the same in those three areas with the 470.

Keep in mind they used the Galaxy 470 card with a non-reference design and it also comes with the high-flow exhaust bracket. The heat and power draw of the 470 were blown out of proportion imo. They were no worse than a GTX275/280.

I can't wait for 6950/70 benches though.

 

[Skurge]

What happened to the review!

 

[Sickamore]

What happened to the review!

I guess the wrath of nvidia came down on them.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Good point there RS. What's really interesting is that tones of complaining about heat,noise, and power draw was a concern for the 470.

Actually those things were a concern for the 470 because of its relative performance. If it had been proportionally faster than the competition, he HD 5870, 5850, and even GTX 460, as its thermals and power consumption demanded, it wouldn't have been so bad.

The 570 rectifies all of this. It may use more power than the competition but at least it has the performance to justify it, proportionally speaking, in this review.

It's hard to recommend the 570 for $350 when you can get a $250 HD5870 or a $400 HD6850 CF setup; and I am sure we'll see GTX470 at $200 to clear inventory soon.

Maybe, but I don't particularly consider firesales on old cards to clear inventories the overall picture of the market. Probably in a short time (a month? two?) the 5870s and 470s are going to go back up in price and/or be hard to find. Then we'll be left with the current generation cards.

Also I'd say there are several reasons to get a 570 over a 5870, or any other closely-priced solution, now. Some people just might demand that level of performance. It also has more VRAM. It may not have as good of a performance to price ratio as on-sale 5870s, but it has always been the case that higher performing cards command some kind of premium.

AMD on the other hand tried to push 6850/70s as replacements for $129 5750 and $159 HD5770....that didn't quite work out when 6870 costs as much as the faster 5870.

What? They aren't replacements as for the 5700 series, as noted by the fact AMD is going to continue making 5700 cards. They are replacements to the 5800 series, and before inventory-clearing sales, they were cheaper. Much like how the 570 is about the same performance and cheaper than the 480, when the 6870 launched it was generally faster and cheaper than the 5850. The 6900 series is going to be the 5800 series spiritual successor, and the 6800 series is the closest to a spiritual successor to the 5700 series. And despite costing more, at least they do offer significantly more performance than the 5700 series. The 6800 series is 50-60% faster than the 5700 series afterall.

 

[Teizo]

What happened to the review!

Just one of those intentional leaks that gets removed to help build up more pre-launch hype I imagine.

Happens every time. Guess they draws straws

 

[RussianSensation]

What? They aren't replacements as for the 5700 series, as noted by the fact AMD is going to continue making 5700 cards. The 6800 series is 50-60% faster than the 5700 series afterall.

HD4890 was sold along with HD5770 for a long time. This doesn't mean in any way that HD5770 series was a replacement for HD4890. HD5850/70 replaced 4890 while HD5770 replaced HD4850 in its hierarchy.

HD4850 --> HD5750/70
HD4870/90 --> HD5850/70

A true replacement is a card that's faster for the same $$ OR has similar performance for less $. 6850/70 series fits none of these.

Focus on hierarchy instead. HD68xx series are current AMD mid-range cards just like HD5750/70 were mid-range cards when they were launched. Strategically, HD6850/70 were meant to be direct replacements for HD5700 series with HD6900 series are to be replacements for HD5800 series. The only reason AMD priced them at $200+ is because they can.

HD5750/70 --> HD6850/70
HD5850/70 --> HD6950/70

5700 mid-range --> HD6800 mid-range (with higher prices). Even now HD5850/70 series cost the same or less and offer better performance than 6850/70. HD6800 series launch has been mediocre so far just like HD5770 was mediocre imo until all HD4890s and GTX260s disappeared.

 

[Silverforce11]

In the performance summary of that review, did not present such a huge gap between the 570 and 5870. Once you minus Hawx2, things look really.. similar.

People who think the 6950 is = 570 must be joking to think that a new gen will barely be 10% faster than cypress xt.

 

[OCGuy]

In the performance summary of that review, did not present such a huge gap between the 570 and 5870. Once you minus Hawx2, things look really.. similar.

People who think the 6950 is = 570 must be joking to think that a new gen will barely be 10% faster than cypress xt.

Yea...really. It better be a lot faster than a tweaked Fermi...

 

[cusideabelincoln]

HD4890 was sold along with HD5770 for a long time. This doesn't mean in any way that HD5770 series was a replacement for HD4890. HD5850/70 replaced 4890 while HD5770 replaced HD4850 in its hierarchy.

HD4850 --> HD5750/70
HD4870/90 --> HD5850/70

A true replacement is a card that's faster for the same $$ OR has similar performance for less $. 6850/70 series fits none of these.

Focus on hierarchy instead. HD68xx series are current AMD mid-range cards just like HD5750/70 were mid-range cards when they were launched. Strategically, HD6850/70 were meant to be direct replacements for HD5700 series with HD6900 series are to be replacements for HD5800 series. The only reason AMD priced them at $200+ is because they can.

HD5750/70 --> HD6850/70
HD5850/70 --> HD6950/70

5700 mid-range --> HD6800 mid-range (with higher prices). Even now HD5850/70 series cost the same or less and offer better performance than 6850/70. HD6800 series launch has been mediocre so far just like HD5770 was mediocre imo until all HD4890s and GTX260s disappeared.

Did you not read my follow up sentence or decide not to quote it to make your post relevant and antagonistic to what I was saying?

Much like how the 570 is about the same performance and cheaper than the 480, when the 6870 launched it was generally faster and cheaper than the 5850. The 6900 series is going to be the 5800 series spiritual successor, and the 6800 series is the closest to a spiritual successor to the 5700 series. And despite costing more, at least they do offer significantly more performance than the 5700 series. The 6800 series is 50-60% faster than the 5700 series afterall.

Honestly we're really arguing over semantics, and there isn't any need to do this. We mostly agree, except I'd consider the 6800 series meeting this criteria:

A true replacement is a card that's faster for the same $$ OR has similar performance for less $.

You know as well as I do the 6800's launched at cheaper prices than the 5800 series and offered similar performance. 10% is close enough for me to call them similar, anyway, but maybe you'll disagree with this. I believe the 6870, as a good example, was faster than the 5850 and the same price or cheaper (depending on how you count rebates).

The story is indeed different now, and I'll agree that this scenario you stated:

HD5770 was mediocre imo until all HD4890s and GTX260s disappeared.

Will definitely repeat itself. Although there are still differences. One being the 5770 didn't have any "new" competition from Nvidia for 8 months, and two being I think the 5770 was less demanded than the 6800s are now. So since there is competition in this market now, and assuming there will be no shortages of 6800, I think the situation will be more amiable fairly quickly.

 

[Grooveriding]

This is a decent card. GTX 480 performance without the noise and heat for $350, overclock it and you have a 580, seems the gap between 570 to 580 is smaller than 470 to 480 was.

Still best to wait for the 6950/6970 if you are in the market for a new card, not sure we will see price drops on NV's stuffs, but expecting faster cards from AMD, not cheaper, but faster.

 

[AtenRa]

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[Skurge]

snip

Thanks.

 

[biostud]

danish site
http://hwt.dk/literaturedetails.aspx?LiteratureID=17748

 

[Skurge]

danish site
http://hwt.dk/literaturedetails.aspx?LiteratureID=17748

Wow, are they sure those graphs shouldn't be upside down?