Thanks. Although I also picked up Cataclysm so don't expect to see me too much.
Just to keep this on topic, did anyone see any 570 reviews using Cataclysm? It's got a new DX11 mode that just may be worth benchmarking.
Forums can be dull without the old Wreckage.I got a new video card!
That's exactly my point though. These new cards aren't really offering much considering how much they're asking for them. Again, if you bought a 5850 a year ago for $260, there is still nothing worth buying currently (hopefully next week changes that). I'll agree that a 6870 isn't really that attractive, especially compared to a 5850 available for $180. I do really like the 6850's, but they have a lot of perks and are much cheaper, but that's for a different thread.You make a fair point, and I agree the 5870 $260 is a good deal, but it is going to take a more broad scale price drop on the 5870 than a few sku's to put allot of pressure on the 570 imho.
Also, part of the problem AMD faces with 5870 price drops in that range is what that will do to 6870 sales. If you say no one will buy a 570 @ $100 more for a marginal performance increase, who in their right mind would buy a 6870 at the same price of the 5870 which beats it in every way except for maybe crossfire scaling?
So, the 5870 price may soften, but unless something happens with the 6850/6870 pricing structure, AMD is going to be limited in just how low they are going to go without stepping on their own toes on their brand new 68's. It will be interesting to see how things turn out over the next month, and just how aggressive the prices are going to be.
Link?sorry, didn't know you guys were using tpu. generally accepted performance disparity btwn gtx 580 and gtx 480 is 15-20%, but using tpu's #'s that clearly isn't the case.
Well, [H]'s conclusion left nothing ambiguous then: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/07/nvidia_geforce_gtx_570_video_card_review/10You might have read too much into "next weeks episode". He might just have been speaking figuratively. Or it is coming next week and he wasn't supposed to say so. So, he edited it. I guess we'll see?
So you'll gladly pay $100 for a 10% performance increase?
Link?
I got a new video card!
Link?
Is it the HD6970 ?
Well, [H]'s conclusion left nothing ambiguous then: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/12/07/nvidia_geforce_gtx_570_video_card_review/10
I don't know where you got that idea from, reviewers generally have very little time to benchmark the cards. From either company.Sounds like they don't have the card yet. Usually they get them in plenty of time to benchmark. So for now the 570/580 seem pretty uncontested at the high end. Especially at $350. Not to jump the gun, but maybe we will see a 560 next week.
With all the money and tech nvidia has. Someone tell
Me why nvidia come out with this in the beginning of the 5000 series launch.
I don't have the link handy, but there was an awesome quote of JHH in an interview where he said, on record, that he didn't believe in having backup plans because they gave people excuses for plan A to not work (I'm paraphrasing obviously).
Someone here undoubtedly has the link handy.
It's can't understand how an obviously intelligent person could think something that stupid was a good idea.
How much less heat is the 570 actually producing compared to my gtx 480? I know it runs much cooler but is that due to the vapor chamber? I could put a i7 CPU under water and overclock it to 4.5ghz and have it never reach 60c, but that doesn't mean it's producing less heat than a stock 2.6ghz i7 that reaches 80c on the stock cooler. I think there is a 60w difference at load 570 vs 480. How much of a difference is that really?
What's with the smartass answer? I guess what I really meant is how much difference is 60w on a high end videocard? I pay 13 cents a kwh I believe. If it consumes 60watts an hour more than my 480 than it takes a little over 16 hours of gaming to save 13 cents over my current gtx 480. So it takes 123 hours of gaming to save $1 over my current gtx 480? Are my figures correct? Seems insane a videocard manufacturer can advertise a card as a new generation and it consumes 60w less power and the same performance. I like nvidia but doing the math just now shows what a fraud the 5 series are. I mean come on 123 hours of gaming and I save $1 over the supposed fermi furnace. If my math is wrong someone please correct me.Uh 60watts? seems like an obvious answer.
What's with the smartass answer? I guess what I really meant is how much difference is 60w on a high end videocard? I pay 13 cents a kwh I believe. If it consumes 60watts an hour more than my 480 than it takes a little over 16 hours of gaming to save 13 cents over my current gtx 480. So it takes 123 hours of gaming to save $1 over my current gtx 480? Are my figures correct? Seems insane a videocard manufacturer can advertise a card as a new generation and it consumes 60w less power and the same performance. I like nvidia but doing the math just now shows what a fraud the 5 series are. I mean come on 123 hours of gaming and I save $1 over the supposed fermi furnace. If my math is wrong someone please correct me.
I think it's pretty obvious there is little economic sense in buying a 570 to replace a 480 (unless you can somehow resell the 480 to recoup most of the investment back).What's with the smartass answer? I guess what I really meant is how much difference is 60w on a high end videocard? I pay 13 cents a kwh I believe. If it consumes 60watts an hour more than my 480 than it takes a little over 16 hours of gaming to save 13 cents over my current gtx 480. So it takes 123 hours of gaming to save $1 over my current gtx 480? Are my figures correct? Seems insane a videocard manufacturer can advertise a card as a new generation and it consumes 60w less power and the same performance. I like nvidia but doing the math just now shows what a fraud the 5 series are. I mean come on 123 hours of gaming and I save $1 over the supposed fermi furnace. If my math is wrong someone please correct me.
I think it's pretty obvious there is little economic sense in buying a 570 to replace a 480 (unless you can somehow resell the 480 to recoup most of the investment back).
What the 570 does is give you 480 performance at the $350 price point, with far more reasonable heat and noise as bonuses. If you jumped on the 480 then yes, this is a refresh and hardly a good upgrade scenario.