nVidia GTX570s dying from Overclocking??

[digitaldurandal]

I have two of them and they are running fine. I have only a mild OC on them at 750 mhz. They are capable of far more but I find little reason to push the limits.

I will likely bump it to 787 which is what many of the stock OC cards sell at and leave it there at stock voltage. If one dies, I will smile because I have two and both are life time warranties. I hope they both die two years from now and I can get 670s :*)

 

[Annisman*]

Hey guys, can anyone actually CONFIRM that there are GTX 570's with upgraded capacitors ? I'm possibly picking up two 570's and I plan on overclocking like crazy, so I'd like to know which cards might not have this problem.

 

[Mistwalker]

FUD. To kill a 570 from overclocking you need to unlock the voltage limit or disable over current protection. Both void your warranty and most people don't do this anyways. They overclock just fine check out the 570 overclocking thread on overclock net. You can get 200+ core 200+ memory without going over 1.1. Pretty good overclocking if you ask me and not mild. In fact there are some 570's running at 1.2 and 1000+ core that are doing just fine it could be a bad batch of vrm's out there who knows. Far more 6950's died from getting a 10-15% performance boost than 570's from getting a 20% plus boost so don't try deflecting.

Since you were the first to do this, I'm singling you out: this thread is about 570s having troubles after being overclocked. It's posts like yours that turn otherwise helpful threads into company wars because you just can't resist the need to point fingers at the "other" camp to defend or deflect what may be a significant issue. Others have already taken up the torch to start defending on both sides, but this is where it started.

Stop it.

I don't think there is any need to warn people away from 570 cards en masse, just point out they need to be careful if they intend to overclock. This applies to all recent cards really, with their various built-in safeguards against voltage adjustments or extreme clock alteration. It may be there's a specific manufacturing issue with 570 cards, too early to tell IMHO.

 

[badb0y]

This thread is the same thing as the 6950 unlock thread, retarded. If you are overclocking, overvolting, unlocking etc. You need to understand that your card may die because of your actions and it's not anybody else's fault but your own. When you modify your cards settings, you are taking the risk of breaking it.

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

 

[load81]

Since you were the first to do this, I'm singling you out: this thread is about 570s having troubles after being overclocked. It's posts like yours that turn otherwise helpful threads into company wars because you just can't resist the need to point fingers at the "other" camp to defend or deflect what may be a significant issue. Others have already taken up the torch to start defending on both sides, but this is where it started.

Stop it.

I don't think there is any need to warn people away from 570 cards en masse, just point out they need to be careful if they intend to overclock. This applies to all recent cards really, with their various built-in safeguards against voltage adjustments or extreme clock alteration. It may be there's a specific manufacturing issue with 570 cards, too early to tell IMHO.

Thank you for being civil about it. Only reason I pointed fingers is because I believe this thread was made in response to the 6950 death thread by Wreckage. The tread title irked me also. 570's are safe to overclock and do it well. You have to go out of your way and disable 1 or 2 safety features to fry the vrm's. If your card dies without disabling the voltage limit or ocp it was faulty to begin with. If you are going to make a thread like this he should atleast know what the problem really is.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

Hey guys, can anyone actually CONFIRM that there are GTX 570's with upgraded capacitors ? I'm possibly picking up two 570's and I plan on overclocking like crazy, so I'd like to know which cards might not have this problem.

The one with the best cooler.

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[Herdo]

Hey guys, can anyone actually CONFIRM that there are GTX 570's with upgraded capacitors ? I'm possibly picking up two 570's and I plan on overclocking like crazy, so I'd like to know which cards might not have this problem.

Ironically the MSI Twin Frozr II OC I got has the military high grade capacitors. Don't let this discourage you, I have heard plenty of people say these card OC great and are overall amazing. I think I just got one of the very few bad cards. Besides, this could have happened with any brand. If you are looking for the upgraded capacitors, go with the MSI Twin Frozr II model.

Andy

 

[dug777]

EDIT: n/m

 

[GaiaHunter]

This thread is the same thing as the 6950 unlock thread, retarded. If you are overclocking, overvolting, unlocking etc. You need to understand that your card may die because of your actions and it's not anybody else's fault but your own. When you modify your cards settings, you are taking the risk of breaking it.

If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Actually people can't even prove that those GTX570 and 6950 died because of overclocking and/or unlocking.

A faulty device can work for some time before failing - stressing it might just accelerate the process.

For example a 4850 I bought played games I was playing fine for 2 weeks and when I fired 3Dmark it died (fortunately it was right in the last day for straight replacement instead of going to RMA).

Actually I think it is a good practice to give a decent stress to your new equipment to see if everything is ok.

 

[evolucion8]

While some people here can't hide their bias even if they try their best pointing out competitions fault when they're even related, what GaiaHunter posted is true. Plus not all the GPU's are created equal, some can withstand high voltages, some don't. Overclocking is a risk for every SKU, is just that some are stronger than others, the bigger is the chip, the higher chances of failure may happen.

(Interestingly enough, the 7900 series were great overclockers and had a smaller die than the X1K series and they still tend to die in less than 3 years, could it be related to the companies manufacturing process like IBM or TSMC? Only time can tell..

 

[thilanliyan]

Thank you for being civil about it. Only reason I pointed fingers is because I believe this thread was made in response to the 6950 death thread by Wreckage. The tread title irked me also. 570's are safe to overclock and do it well. You have to go out of your way and disable 1 or 2 safety features to fry the vrm's. If your card dies without disabling the voltage limit or ocp it was faulty to begin with. If you are going to make a thread like this he should atleast know what the problem really is.

Please read even just the first thread I posted. NOT ALL of the dead cards had the current limiter disabled. Even W1zzard at TPU blew up a card by just increasing volts with "ovp,ocp,nvidia power limit still in place". You may be right it could be a bad batch of cards...but how are we to tell the difference?

 

[load81]

but how are we to tell the difference?

Just like any other card? You never know if its going to arrive faulty. Considering it isn't widespread and only 8 are documented in that thread its not something to worry about.

 

[Gloomy]

After the whole bumpgate situation, I can't understand why anyone could tell people to ignore possible QC issues... at least not with a clear conscience.

 

[thilanliyan]

Just like any other card? You never know if its going to arrive faulty. Considering it isn't widespread and only 8 are documented in that thread its not something to worry about.

Eight are documented in that thread. What about the other threads? And maybe more that I did not post about? If you find something similar with other types of cards then please do post it as I'm sure the more information the better.

So do you agree it may not be a case of people disabling all the safety stuff (considering some people in that thread alone had not)? And if so then it is NOT as you said before due to some people being extreme with their OCing. I don't see why you should object to this information being out in the open. If you think this is purely a parody thread then please report it to the mods.

For the record I do not disagree at all with the 6950 thread being posted...I myself have said in several other 6950 threads (including the one about dead cards from flashing) that I don't think it is worth it to flash...especially to the people that were using 6970 BIOSes.

 

[load81]

If you think this is purely a parody thread then please report it to the mods.

Only reason I thought this is because someone said this in another thread

Someone create a thread informing the community to avoid the GTX 570 as the cards are failing from overclocking

And boom 10 minutes later this thread was made.

The one card that didn't have the safety features disabled had to be faulty to begin with or tons more people would be posting dead 570's. If you read the whole theread the op visits many forums rounding up people with fried vrm's. I agree with most of what you say though. I wasn't trying to slam the 6950 flashing. I'm just saying the chances of a 570 frying from heavy overclocking are about the same as a 6950 flash going wrong.

 

[evolucion8]

Only reason I thought this is because someone said this in another thread



And boom 10 minutes later this thread was made.

The one card that didn't have the safety features disabled had to be faulty to begin with or tons more people would be posting dead 570's. If you read the whole theread the op visits many forums rounding up people with fried vrm's. I agree with most of what you say though. I wasn't trying to slam the 6950 flashing. I'm just saying the chances of a 570 frying from heavy overclocking are about the same as a 6950 flash going wrong.

Are you here to disregard the thread or apport something useful? There would be more dead HD 6950 than GTX 570 because the former is cheaper and offers great bang for the buck, that's the main reason, but I do agree with you something, the risks of bricking a GTX 570 with overclocking are pretty much the same as bad flashing an HD 6950 which are quite low.

 

[thilanliyan]

Only reason I thought this is because someone said this in another thread

And boom 10 minutes later this thread was made.

I never made this thread in response to that. I made this thread because of that other person here at AT that posted about his dead 570...as well as someone else mentioning something about dead 570s in another thread. As I said in the OP I never much paid attention to the 570 but after seeing the thread about the dead 570 and someone else mentioning dead 570s as well, I googled it and what do you know there seems to be something there. Whether these cards are failing because of botched OC attempts, or bad batch of VRMs, or marginal VRMs, I don't know but I think the information should be posted and people can read into it what they will. If a mod thinks this is an inflammatory thread then they can lock/delete the thread.

 

[Zap]

(Interestingly enough, the 7900 series were great overclockers and had a smaller die than the X1K series and they still tend to die in less than 3 years, could it be related to the companies manufacturing process like IBM or TSMC? Only time can tell..

I thought most of the dying 7900 GT were from faulty memory?

 

[load81]

There would be more dead HD 6950 than GTX 570 because the former is cheaper and offers great bang for the buck

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Lol I'm kidding i know steam doesnt count every 570/6950 sold. Pretty good numbers for the 570 though . And no I'm not saying a warning to 570 owners thread isnt usefull. Its just the thread title and saying they die for mild overclocking misleads alot of people. Any card can die from overclocking. What really kills reference 570's is bios editing the voltage limit or using a program to disable over current protection.

 

[Grooveriding]

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=182026

More fried 570

 

[load81]

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=182026

More fried 570

Where? They are refering to the thread on OCN thats all i see. Oh and someone mentions that it probably is a bad batch of vrm's since only recently purchased 570's are cooking. :thumbsdown: Mine has been at 940/1880/2100 1.1 volts since release almost 24/7 folding or gaming btw on stock cooling 34c-68c with a 1%-1c fan profile.

 

[Grooveriding]

Where? They are refering to the thread on OCN thats all i see. Oh and someone mentions that it probably is a bad batch of vrm's since only recently purchased 570's are cooking. :thumbsdown: Mine has been at 940/1880/2100 1.1 volts since release almost 24/7 folding or gaming btw on stock cooling 34c-68c with a 1%-1c fan profile.

Keep us updated on your RMA after it explodes. :awe:

 

[evolucion8]

I thought most of the dying 7900 GT were from faulty memory?

Thanks for the enlightment.

Keep us updated on your RMA after it explodes. :awe:

LOL

 

[load81]

Keep us updated on your RMA after it explodes. :awe:

LOL

Kinda weird that you feel good about bricking an GTX 570, a lifeless product with no feelings or soul, from a company who doesn't even know who you are....Omg wait didn't you say the same thing to me? Blind AMD fanboyism everywhere in this forum lately

Kinda weird that you feel good about bricking an HD 6950, a lifeless product with no feelings or soul, from a company who doesn't even know who you are.

 

[MrK6]

Kinda weird that you feel good about bricking an GTX 570, a lifeless product with no feelings or soul, from a company who doesn't even know who you are....Omg wait didn't you say the same thing to me? Blind AMD fanboyism everywhere in this forum lately

You obviously missed the point - the funny part is the irony of blind, fanatical defense of a company or purchase actually doing one in, not the "lifeless product with no feelings or soul" getting bricked.