it's good design, why are you guys not happy that they designed a new and interesting way to add another 1GB of memory?
I've read all the Nvidia bullet points 100 times before there is no need to repeat them again. BTW I don't see why bragging that the card has the same performance as before is a positive, that same performance is how people found out there was a hardware issue in the first place.The performance never changed.
It still performs exactly like the reviews say it does.
People would have looked at those reviews and said 10% less performance for 60% of the price??? ill take that...
How it gets to that performance is not relevant. People dont even understand the specs or how they affect FPS. Armchair engineers claim is has this effect or that effect.
I didnt sue AMD when my GPU was running 20% slower because of poor drivers and a year later they finally fixed it and gave me the full power...
Im still waiting for those pills to work i got off my hotmail account but the gf says they aint working..
If they had, I would have bought nothing.Have you ever considered the fact that had they launched the 670 with 3GB Vram or the correct spec that you would have bought the 980 and they would have made even more money from you?
A lot of people who had 780ti would not have had. Anyhow, I am also shocked by how performance of Kepler cards have trailed off.If they had, I would have bought nothing.
Here is the bottom line:
All of this should have been disclosed with the initial card reviews. Nvidia should have offered a game code for all 970 and 980 buyers prior to the discovery as a token of good faith. That said, most of the people whining and complaining like someone physically assaulted them are more than likely going to whine and complain about nearly anything and everything. The truth is 98% of everyone who bought a gtx 970 before the mixed memory configuration was revealed would still have bought one anyways.
Here is the bottom line:
All of this should have been disclosed with the initial card reviews. Nvidia should have offered a game code for all 970 and 980 buyers prior to the discovery as a token of good faith. That said, most of the people whining and complaining like someone physically assaulted them are more than likely going to whine and complain about nearly anything and everything. The truth is 98% of everyone who bought a gtx 970 before the mixed memory configuration was revealed would still have bought one anyways.
Count me as one of the 2% who would NOT have bought the GTX970 had I known about the memory allocation issue on January 4, 2015 when I bought a GTX 970. I sent it back to Newegg after the revelations of the January 26-28 weekend by their Sr. Nvidia engineer. I finally got a full refund (still out @$13 shipping). I bought a R9 290.
I previously owned 2 GTX670 FTWs in SLI with 2G Vram and wanted to go to 4G Vram. The GTX 980 seemed priced somewhat high and ALL of the ads said the GTX 970 was a 4G Vram card. NOT ONE mention of the memory allocation scheme.
Funny how the CEO of Nvidia is now starting to "defend" Nvidia's action. Shameful. If he was so "proud" of this "now'" claimed achievement why wasn't this mentioned before the lawsuit?
No it isn't the design sucks, too much compromise. I don't know how much Nvidia is saving by going with a segmented memory layout but how much could it possibly be? At the price point of the 970 it should be a proper 4GB memory bus, no excuses.GTX 970 is a 4GB card. However, the upper 512MB of the additional 1GB is segmented and has reduced bandwidth. This is a good design because we were able to add an additional 1GB for GTX 970 and our software engineers can keep less frequently used data in the 512MB segment
Except when i buy a product i expect it to work as advertised.
CF was and still is broken and i had driver problems for ever on games.
then one day 20% gain in FPS...
Now this is worse because they shipped a defective product and driver system and partially fixed it. I had to go Nvidia to get SLI since they couldnt fix CF on the 7970...
Here is the bottom line:
All of this should have been disclosed with the initial card reviews. Nvidia should have offered a game code for all 970 and 980 buyers prior to the discovery as a token of good faith. That said, most of the people whining and complaining like someone physically assaulted them are more than likely going to whine and complain about nearly anything and everything. The truth is 98% of everyone who bought a gtx 970 before the mixed memory configuration was revealed would still have bought one anyways.
The 3.5GB + 500MB now officialy become a feature of the 970.:awe:
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2015/02/24/gtx-970/
Where did you pull this 'truthful' statistic from?The truth is 98% of everyone who bought a gtx 970 before the mixed memory configuration was revealed would still have bought one anyways.
Ever consider that the 970 is a defective GPU based on the 980?
So something has to be broken on it to be a 970.
You guys must have thought you were buying a 980 rebadged up just to save you money!
Im sorry but this suit is exactly that! "ridiculous"
What you fail to realise is that America is a laughing stock of the world when it comes to law suits. With ambulance chasing lawyers and and a culture of everyone suing everyone for everything. On a international forum you are not going to get much sympathy. These class action suits are the laughing stock of every news/technology blog and comment section.
Because your legislators are all on the take with a lobbying system which corrupts the laws in favour of big enterprise and no oversight worth a damn with any teeth the only recourse you have are these class action suits.
When you all get a $5 refund in damages you will look back and think "wasnt worth the hassle"
Sadly the UK is getting this way too but thankfully not as bad as the US. If you want to see some common sense download a show called "Judge Rinder" which is based off your own version of a courtroom small claims show.
I can just imagine his response if he ever heard this claim go to court (chuckles to myself)
People need a big dose of common sense here as it sounds like im listening to one of those shows where the claimant says hes owed £10,000 because someone hurt his feelings...
The performance never changed.
It still performs exactly like the reviews say it does.
People would have looked at those reviews and said 10% less performance for 60% of the price??? ill take that...
How it gets to that performance is not relevant. People dont even understand the specs or how they affect FPS. Armchair engineers claim is has this effect or that effect.
I didnt sue AMD when my GPU was running 20% slower because of poor drivers and a year later they finally fixed it and gave me the full power...
But it's an exciting innovation that Nvidia unfortunately did not communicate to us properly. This is what we are to believe. :\Except lots more were broken that NV didn't tell people about, which comes to the issue at hand.
I bought the 970 because of the 4Gb advertised. I came from 2- 670's in sli with 2Gb memory. I would not have purchased the 970 and instead went with a 290x or waited for a different card had I known.Here is the bottom line:
All of this should have been disclosed with the initial card reviews. Nvidia should have offered a game code for all 970 and 980 buyers prior to the discovery as a token of good faith. That said, most of the people whining and complaining like someone physically assaulted them are more than likely going to whine and complain about nearly anything and everything. The truth is 98% of everyone who bought a gtx 970 before the mixed memory configuration was revealed would still have bought one anyways.
The memory config of the 970 is not some awesome feature or innovation, it's done to save Nvidia money. And you'll notice Jensen said nothing about the fact that ROPs and cache are not what was advertised either.
It would have been better for Jensen to say nothing IMO.