Nvidia Just Released a New Card: Titan Xp -- Full 3840 Cuda Cores Chip for $1200 --Yes for Real!

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crisium

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Names used in drivers:
Maxwell: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
Pascal 3584: NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)
Pascal 3840: NVIDIA TITAN Xp

Thank you, counselor. Makes as much sense as anything I guess.
 

CatMerc

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Some us us already called the "Nvidia Titan X" as "Titan XP" to distinguish it from the "GTX Titan X" which is Maxwell. Now what do we call the old Pascal Titan X?? Such a dilemma!! Convene the council at once!
NVIDIA discord already took to naming it the Titan XPp
 

Stormflux

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The fact that they're even bothering to release it. A full die is harder to manufacture than a cut down one.

Yeah and it was mostly silent, no waiting for GTC, and no recent rumours. Competing with itself is fine but jeez, the 1080, TitanX, 1080Ti, and now Titan Xp, before Volta just screams of milking and recurring nightmares of Kepler.
 

tential

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It's NVIDIA making sure it has something to actually sell for $1200. Remember, OG Titan Xp is now pointless with 1080 Ti around so if they want people to spend $$$, they needed to update the Titan Xp.

I don't think it has to do with Vega.
Also I mean what was Nvidia supposed to do with the full gp102 chips? Sell them in a cut down 1080ti? Why? That leaves $500 on the table. Of course this chip was coming and it has nothing to do with Vega. Amd has so many concerns below the$750 price tag before they get concerned with Nvidia halo product.
 
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vissarix

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Nvidia marketing is probably the most brilliant of the industry.

They released the $1200 Titan X, every enthusiast bought it..then later released the $699 Gtx1080ti and got even more buyers but at the same time making the Titan X obsolete since no one would buy it now...
And now releasing the new Titan XP which will be probably 10-15% faster at $1200...
 

ZGR

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Nvidia gives enthusiasts so much choice! This is a quadruple dipping generation :O
 

HurleyBird

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Also I mean what was Nvidia supposed to do with the full gp102 chips? Sell them in a cut down 1080ti? Why? That leaves $500 on the table.

They've been selling the full chip as a Quadro for awhile, but yes, selling it as a consumer GPU makes perfect sense as well.
 

tential

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Nvidia gives enthusiasts so much choice! This is a quadruple dipping generation :O
Yup, that's why I still would have Nvidia at a strong buy even after their strong run up. They can quadruple dip.... That's amazing.

Too bad Nvidia leap options are easily available to normal investors. A call option on Nvidia is that stuff I do like.
 
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Carfax83

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I might buy one of these. I'm tired of waiting for the aftermarket GTX 1080 Tis to become available (they're always sold out) and the Zotac Amp Extreme edition that I always buy isn't even for sale yet.

Buying one of these cards isn't as bad investment an investment as you'd think. Assuming you take good care of it, it will hold most of its value when it comes time to sell it.

The only thing is the high initial cost.
 

n0x1ous

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I might buy one of these. I'm tired of waiting for the aftermarket GTX 1080 Tis to become available (they're always sold out) and the Zotac Amp Extreme edition that I always buy isn't even for sale yet.

Buying one of these cards isn't as bad investment an investment as you'd think. Assuming you take good care of it, it will hold most of its value when it comes time to sell it.

The only thing is the high initial cost.

At least with this one you know its the true flagship of Pascal and wont be topped until big Volta
 
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Bacon1

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At least with this one you know its the true flagship of Pascal and wont be topped until big Volta

The Titan X was topped by 1080 (arguably 1070 in some cases / clocks) which was the first release for Pascal. Why wouldn't the first Volta release top this?
 

n0x1ous

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The Titan X was topped by 1080 (arguably 1070 in some cases / clocks) which was the first release for Pascal. Why wouldn't the first Volta release top this?
well right GV104 will probably be a little faster....what I mean was for big die buyers on the ti/titan cycle. whatever GV104 is over full GP102 won't be enough for most of those buyers.
 

Bacon1

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well right GV104 will probably be a little faster....what I mean was for big die buyers on the ti/titan cycle. whatever GV104 is over full GP102 won't be enough for most of those buyers.

OK yeah, not "upgrade" worthy, but still faster.
 
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Mopetar

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At least with this one you know its the true flagship of Pascal and wont be topped until big Volta

Well they could release a consumer version of GP100 if they really wanted to. Perhaps that's their next move once everyone has ditched their recently acquired 1080 Ti's in favor of Titan Xp cards. I don't know how cut those dies were, but I recall that they weren't offering a full die there either and the HBM2 gives it a massive edge in terms of memory bandwidth over GP102.
 

ddogg

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Man, Nvidia sure knows how to continue the milking. How would someone be able to differentiate between this and the OG Titan X if someone were selling this on ebay?
 
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n0x1ous

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Well they could release a consumer version of GP100 if they really wanted to. Perhaps that's their next move once everyone has ditched their recently acquired 1080 Ti's in favor of Titan Xp cards. I don't know how cut those dies were, but I recall that they weren't offering a full die there either and the HBM2 gives it a massive edge in terms of memory bandwidth over GP102.

I dont see it happening. It would just waste FP64 cores and has the same number of FP32 cores as GP102. The 512GB+ bandwidth of GP102 is enough for now. The fact that a GX102 core exists for the first time is evidence enough of this to me that they now have a big enough gaming AND HPC market to have seperate flagship dies for each.
 
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tviceman

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The fact that they're even bothering to release it. A full die is harder to manufacture than a cut down one.

If Nvidia was worried about Vega, they would have withheld releasing this product, just like they did with the 780 TI. And they certainly wouldn't have priced it at $1200.

The 1080 TI was spec'd out to beat the previous Titan X. This new Titan just reestablishes the $1200 price point. Business as usual.
 
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unseenmorbidity

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Man, Nvidia sure knows how to continue the milking.
This is what happens with a monopoly! It's getting really really bad.

They're basically selling midrange cards as highend cards, and charging $1200 for the real highend cards. This isn't a long transitions either... It has happened in only the last few years.

We are all getting screwed, because of the lack of competition. Yet, people keep making it worse by supporting this stuff, and it will only continue to decline. I have no faith in humanity.
 
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ddogg

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Yeah I miss the days of ATI x800/HD4xxx/HD5xxx series when we had full fat cards released at one go instead of a midrange card like the 1080 selling for 699. Can't blame Nvidia though as they are making full use of their monopoly
 

mohit9206

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Yeah I miss the days of ATI x800/HD4xxx/HD5xxx series when we had full fat cards released at one go instead of a midrange card like the 1080 selling for 699. Can't blame Nvidia though as they are making full use of their monopoly
I see lots of people upgrading from 980ti to 1080,then from 1080 to 1080Ti, and now probably from 1080Ti to this. Lots of crazy people. Can't really blame nvidia for this.
 

AdamK47

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I noticed some people, for whatever reason, went from Titan X Pascal to 1080 Ti. To me, that's a downgrade. I'm going for the new Titan Xp from Titan X Pascal.
 

Carfax83

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I noticed some people, for whatever reason, went from Titan X Pascal to 1080 Ti. To me, that's a downgrade. I'm going for the new Titan Xp from Titan X Pascal.

Well, I'm coming from a GTX 1080 to a Titan Xp so that's definitely an upgrade!
 
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