Nvidia Just Released a New Card: Titan Xp -- Full 3840 Cuda Cores Chip for $1200 --Yes for Real!

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coercitiv

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People who usually buy these $1200 cards only do so to brag about it and don't actually care abt gaming performance. If they did care about performance, they would just get the 1080Ti.
Whether they do it for the extra performance or extra social status, those who recently bought a Titan are still screwed, since their card no longer serves it's purpose. It's no longer the best.

The real issue with what Nvidia is doing is with the way they market this product: it's a product meant for professionals, but marketed to enthusiasts. Even the Jays2cents video shows this, with Nvidia reps trying to convince him that the Titan is a Deep Learning card.

If the Titan were a card truly built for professionals, nobody would care even if faster versions would be launched at 6 months intervals. In fact, it would be a welcome trend, for products which essentially pay for themselves. People would buy them based on objective needs anyway.

But the Titan is not a card marketed to professionals, is it?



PS: I also strongly agree that people who buy this product should not have to defend their purchase in any way. Their money, their fun.
 
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People who usually buy these $1200 cards only do so to brag about it and don't actually care abt gaming performance. If they did care about performance, they would just get the 1080Ti.
Buying cards just to show off and at the same time empowering nvidia to release more such titan cards in the future.

No. People who spend $1200 on these cards do so because they want this level of performance sooner than it would otherwise be available.
 
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ddogg

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Yeah if it's 10% more performance you're paying 70% more over a 1080 Ti for 10% additional performance.

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TITAN XPPPPPPPP++ Xtreme 4G LTE Maxx Droid+ 3.0 VS AMD TH34DRIPP3R

Battle of the marketing slogans. Who will push more Fox racing hats and Monster energy drink? Only time will tell.
 

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If I bought a Titanx (or two) I'd seriously not tell anyone and I'd just leave them out of my sig. I wouldn't want to deal with any crap.

90% of all the negative comments you'd get would come from those who continually over hype every upcoming AMD product and would never buy any Nvidia card in th first place. Furthermore, those same people would have lobbed the same disgruntled comments and off hand insults if you had bought a 1080 at any point before the 1080 TI came out.

You should never let these types of people affect your purchasing decisions and happiness.
 
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90% of all the negative comments you'd get would come from those who continually over hype every upcoming AMD product and would never buy any Nvidia card in th first place. Furthermore, those some people will lob the same disgruntled comments and off hand insults if you bought a 1080 at any point before the 1080 TI came out.

You should never let these types of people affect your purchasing decisions and happiness.

This might be the best post I've read here in a long time.
 
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moonbogg

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I think the new Titan will be appreciably faster than a 1080ti. They should clock the same so I'd expect a nice bump in performance. Of course you need to water cool the new Titan or the performance delta will shrink a lot vs a 2100mhz 1080ti. No aftermarket titans, so there's that. IMO this is a water cool only card.
 
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ddogg

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We shall see but I'm not expecting > 10 or 15% from my OC 1080 Ti. If it is, then more power to those who can justify the cost to buy one of these bad boys.

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The issue isn't that they made new cards either... It's the fact they are exploiting their position of power. A position, I might add, that they acquired by exploiting the market to give themselves an unfair advantage. The business model is to use their monopoly to milk as much money as they can from the consumers. That's why we are paying $700 for midrange cards now. Yes, the GTX 1080 is a midrange card! Nvidia merely created two new tiers above the xx80. But the xx80 used to be the full package! And now Nvidia has created yet another tier!!!

Full Titan - High end
Small Titan
xx80ti
xx80 - Midrange
xx70
xx60 - Low End
xx50
xx30 -Entry xx10

With inflation the full Titan should be about $700, when compared to the old fully unlocked GPUs. Now you are paying $700 for a midrange card.

The people that buy into this sort of garbage have created this current day cancerous market. They are helping nvidia slice everyone's throat, including their own.
 
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Carfax83

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If I bought a Titanx (or two) I'd seriously not tell anyone and I'd just leave them out of my sig. I wouldn't want to deal with any crap.

Not me, I wear mine loud and proud You know the expression, haters gonna hate no matter what!
 
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Carfax83

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I think the new Titan will be appreciably faster than a 1080ti. They should clock the same so I'd expect a nice bump in performance. Of course you need to water cool the new Titan or the performance delta will shrink a lot vs a 2100mhz 1080ti. No aftermarket titans, so there's that. IMO this is a water cool only card.

The reference cooler on these cards don't really limit overclocking unless you leave the fan profile in auto. Reference cooled cards have about the same overclocking headroom as aftermarket models in fact from what I've seen, as these GPUs are really limited by their TDP more than anything.
 

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Anybody who buys this card....well it's their choice and their money. But I would like to point out that the 1170/2070 will most likely match it at 1/3 price so.....
 
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unseenmorbidity

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If I bought a Titanx (or two) I'd seriously not tell anyone and I'd just leave them out of my sig. I wouldn't want to deal with any crap.

Yah, I know what you mean. I love to burn brush with a mix of motor oil, old tires, and gasoline, but I tend not to mention that at the greenpeace forum. Those guys are really finicky about destroying the environment we are all apart of.
 

Carfax83

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Anybody who buys this card....well it's their choice and their money. But I would like to point out that the 1170/2070 will most likely match it at 1/3 price so.....

Yep and I'm fine with that. That's the price of progress. Things get smaller, faster and cheaper over time.

Here's the thing that most of the haters here don't get. They seem to think that I'm out of $1200 because I decided to buy this thing. But as I mentioned several pages ago, these premium products retain their price much better than other products because they're rare. Depending on how early I sell, I should recover at least 65% of my initial expenditure when I upgrade again for Volta, but more likely 75% or even more. Again, it all depends on how early I sell.

Besides that, even my initial cost isn't that much, since I will sell my Zotac Amp Extreme 1080 and 980 Ti.

The only people getting screwed on this are the guys that bought the original Titan X Pascal. I can understand why they would be mad at this. These are the same guys that buy the Titan cards to begin with in order to get a Halo product, and now they find out that it wasn't a true Halo product.
 
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unseenmorbidity

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Yep and I'm fine with that. That's the price of progress. Things get smaller, faster and cheaper over time.

Here's the thing that most of the haters here don't get. They seem to think that I'm out of $1200 because I decided to buy this thing. But as I mentioned several pages ago, these premium products retain their price much better than other products because they're rare. Depending on how early I sell, I should recover at least 65% of my initial expenditure when I upgrade again for Volta, but more likely 75% or even more. Again, it all depends on how early I sell.

Besides that, even my initial cost isn't that much, since I will sell my Zotac Amp Extreme 1080 and 980 Ti.

The only people getting screwed on this are the guys that bought the original Titan X Pascal. I can understand why they would be mad at this. These are the same guys that buy the Titan cards to begin with in order to get a Halo product, and now they find out that it wasn't a true Halo product.
You can burn your money for all I care. That doesn't affect anyone, but you. I do care when you use your money to hurt everyone else though.

The fact you can resell it later isn't a valid argument.

As I said above, you are perpetuating a monopoly. You are buying a $1200 product that should cost $700 at most.

Everyone is getting screwed, including you.
 

Carfax83

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You can burn your money for all I care. That doesn't affect anyone, but you. I do care when you use your money to hurt everyone else though.

Now this thread has reached the zenith point of its weirdness

Dude seriously, get a grip. It's just computer hardware man, nobody is getting hurt. If it weren't for AMD's lack of competitiveness, then NVidia wouldn't be able to do this in the first place.
 
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The only people getting screwed on this are the guys that bought the original Titan X Pascal. I can understand why they would be mad at this. These are the same guys that buy the Titan cards to begin with in order to get a Halo product, and now they find out that it wasn't a true Halo product.

I have an OG Titan X Pascal and I'm not mad at all. Companies release new products, that's how they stay in business.

It would be selfish and petty of me to get mad just because NVIDIA made a better product than the one I currently own, especially since I've enjoyed this thing since I bought it on Day 1 and it has given me unmatched gaming performance until very recently.

And, even though it has been "matched" by the 1080 Ti and clearly exceeded by Titan Xp, it still plays games just as well as it did before these new products were announced.

The level of faux outrage from people who don't actually buy this stuff and who just want to hate on NVIDIA is just mind-blowing.
 
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unseenmorbidity

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Now this thread has reached the zenith point of its weirdness

Dude seriously, get a grip. It's just computer hardware man, nobody is getting hurt. If it weren't for AMD's lack of competitiveness, then NVidia wouldn't be able to do this in the first place.

When you perpetuate a monopoly, that hurts everyone... GPUs cost nearly double what they should cost now! Whose fault did you think that was?! Fairies?!

This all started years ago when Nvidia started releasing $1000 GPUs, and people with more money than sense actually bought them. It was that day that Nvidia figured out that it didn't actually need to compete. They could just create new tiers or GPUs, raise prices, and use marketing to convince the masses they were getting what they paid for.

Look at all the people here that think their 1080 isn't a midrange card, because they paid a lot for it! Note, that's the only argument they have that it's a high end card. They paid a lot for it, so it must be a high end GPU, right!? Well, it's not...

I get it. You don't want to accept responsibility. It's the same reason climate change deniers don't want to believe that they have adversely affected the the climate of the planet. They just don't want to accept that their small contributions had any real impact, while ignoring the significance of the impact collectively. They do not want believe it's their fault, but it is!

The fact of the matter is, that people that bought into stuff like this have created this cancerous environment. It's a race to the bottom, and these people are leading the charge.
 

vissarix

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Yeah guys please lets just buy the best price/performance gpu...Lets buy an RX480 who cant even play games at 1080p maxed out let alone 4k..

I wonder why hate on people who can afford this hardware? If i had the money even if Nvidia release something 2% faster at $2000 why not? i have the money, you dont, thats your problem...

Is like saying please dont buy a Porsche cause i cant afford it, buy a Ford so Porsche will eventually lower prices...Ridicolous argument!!!
 
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