nvidia losing to ati in recent graphics chip market share

[nRollo]

Cindy(Rogo):
It's almost pathetic you have to come here and insult nVidia owners to make yourself feel better about yourself. A person's choice of video cards isn't indicative of how smart they are, or anything else really. We're talking about video cards here, which mean about nothing in the grand scheme of things.

They don't cost much money, so they're not a status symbol.

The differences in performance are so slight that if you showed someone who wasn't in the cult of video the two running side by side, they'd never notice the difference.

They won't get you sex, money, or power.

Your post makes about as much sense as someone posting "RCA TVs overtaking Sony with "Ultrablack" picture tube- I feel sorry for those loser who bought Sony!". At the end of the day, so what? They're both TVs, and you apparently still won't have a life.

 

[nick1985]

cindy, nobody likes you.

 

[BenSkywalker]

just as much and probably a lot more than any periphery markets that ATI may be involved in.

Like the GameCube? I'd assume nVidia gets a bit more per unit then ATi, but the Cube is still ahead of the Box on a global basis.

 

[Regs]

People should not be banned for speaking their minds. Not unless it goes against guide lines.

Even though I cannot agree to most of what you state Cindy, I can see where you're coming from. In time you will see non-aggression towards a fan base could be more satisfying to the intellect.

 

[dragonic]

Originally posted by: cindy22
If you bother to look in other oolder threads you will see that all my older posts shows facts about how much better ati is compared to nvidia lately, that then pissed every nvidia fanatic off so badly that they than try to insult me by calling names , etc. .

like we didnt know that nvidia's fx-series were bad before you came here..........oh wait, we did know it.....didnt we?
So in short what I think of this:

ARG, NO MORE REPOSTING OLD NEWS ABOUT HOW MUCH NVIDIA SUCKS AT THE MOMENT!!

But the market share is quite interesting; I never knew that Intel had so high market share with their bad Integrated Graphics parts

 

[Keysplayr]

Yeah, at the end of the day they really are only just vid cards. Just finally got really steamed this time. Mods got back to me this morning saying they will keep an eye on the user mentioned. Cindy might not get banned, but she may get warned. Dunno.

So, how is everyone doing? hehe.

The market share increase for ATI is very interesting. However, I think Nvidia may be selling truckloads of 5900's (SE,ST,NU) at the moment because the prices have dropped so low now. The only thing they will get hammered on is there 5700U which nobody seems to want to buy when they can get a 5900 for less money. 5700U probably too expensive to make with DDR2 to drop to 9600pro/XT prices. But, its good to see ATI doing better than they used to.

 

[cm123]

Nvidia can't be that bad... I see many post about (more than any other card) on how the FX5900 is such a good buy, or why buy anything other than the 5900, plus many post after they purchased the 5900 & are happy of the good price point & performance.

I think its great that the 2 companies are so close in sales AND performace, each shows/has its own strong points.

My question really is, is Intel really #1, or is it just becaues the graphic chip is on the mainboard, then counted as a Intel sale. Many people have onboard Intel video, yet have a ATI or Nvidia card installed.

Its hard to go totaly wrong when buyting either ATI or Nvidia, when comparing the 9800XT & 5950, neither will most likely play the most demanding future DX9x games perfect that we know little to nothing about today, as some reviews I have seem comment on (plus others here).

 

[ErikS]

actually what's sad is all nvidia fanatics like you that have bought nvidia's bad fx cards,
but are still in denial and lie for nvidia by saying how good, fast and futureproof your card is , but we all know thats all bs and the oposite.

You mean my futureproof card won't run vaporware? :Q

<sarcasm off>

Ah, trolls, where would we be without them.

Also...here's a clue for you goob....ATI has moved BACK up. They've actually been #1 before.

 

[ZimZum]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

just as much and probably a lot more than any periphery markets that ATI may be involved in.

Like the GameCube? I'd assume nVidia gets a bit more per unit then ATi, but the Cube is still ahead of the Box on a global basis.

Actually, they were neck and neck.

To date, Nintendo has shipped some ten million GameCubes since the console's 2001 launch. By contrast, Sony has shipped over 51 million Playstation 2s since 2000. Microsoft has sold nearly ten million Xboxes since its launch in November 2001.

Link

Nintendo also suspended production of the Gamecube for nine months in 2003. So while they have been selling well, they werent ordering chips from ATI for most of the year.

25% of nVidias revenue is from the xbox. The Gamecube definitely doesnt account for that much of ATIs revenue.

 

[nemesismk2]

All of you nvidia and ati fans are equally sad, wait until S3 get their driver problems sorted out and their deltachrome will wipe all of your video cards off the face of the planet.

Seriously if the nv40 isn't all that then nvidia are going to really struggle this year which will be bad for us consumers.

 

[Rage187]

Rogo, posing as a girl.

How sad.

 

[edmundoab]

not a suprising news to me.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

just as much and probably a lot more than any periphery markets that ATI may be involved in.

Like the GameCube? I'd assume nVidia gets a bit more per unit then ATi, but the Cube is still ahead of the Box on a global basis.

The financial news I was watching this morning was saying that MS is dropping X-Box down to $129 and likely $99 by summer. They stated Gamecube pricing/heavy sales as the reason.

 

[reever]

but that does not in any way mean Nvidia is struggling or having money troubles. In fact, they're probably doing better than ever.

Which is why you have financial statements, which also say Ati is going up and NV is going down.

 

[CaiNaM]

all these reports about #'s are skewed anyways, since the # includes onboard chipsets and have little to do with the market we are in (and how many of use on-board video?).

ati has come a long ways in both hardware and driver development, and it shows. right now they are riding high, however what most of us buy here has little to do with overall market. would be interesting if the #'s were broken up a bit, but retail shelf space is still dominated by nvidia (riding on the laurels of their past supremecy), and it's amazing the # of gf4 mx (a crappy gf2 architecture) and fg 5700x and lower are still being purchased by those that don't know better (as well as those that buy the ati "se" models, etc.).

the bottom line is the "mainstream" segment is not so clear cut, and "high" end video cards are but a small % of overall sales. while the "best" card at the time may influence those that purchase the mainstream stuff, for the most part many of those buyers are clueless and will buy whichever has the most retail shelf space, makes the most "promises" on the box, or what has the coolest packaging.

it's actually a shame that the video market is basically down to just 2 players (remember back when s3 "led" gfx chip sales? or how about rendition, matrox, permedia et all?), but it would even be worse if there were only 1 choice. the reality is that having more than 1 player vying for market supremecy benefits us, the consumers, and lets hope it always stays that way, regardless of which company holds the "top" at the time.

 

[Genx87]

One thing to remember is Intel, that is right, Intel has the lead by about 7% over ATI and Nvidia

 

[GZFant]

I should have known this thread was created by Cindy22....always dogging Nvidia.

Do me a favor, have your thoughts/opinions/fetishes in a dark quiet place where no one can read/hear about them.

Your threads are getting old and obnoxious.

I like ATi, I like Nvidia. cheers to both companies for keeping each other in business.

 

[sandorski]

It takes 2 to Tango people.

 

[SneakyStuff]

Cindy22 FIND SOMETHING USEFUL TO POST, YOU HAVE NO LIFE! ATI may be on a hot streak now, but when next gen chips come out, THEN you can boast if they come ahead. All you do is find stuff that negates nVidia in the slightest way, highly unlikely ATI will ever catch up to nVidia in market shares, last time I checked nVidia controlled what? 70% of the market? Leaving ATI their leftovers. You are a TRUE geek if all you do is root for your favorite graphics card manufacturer!? These forums are for posting Q/A and to inform people of stuff they actually might find useful, not your OPINIONS, and opinions they clearly are. I'm suprised you haven't been banned yet. And the fact that you pounce on nVidia for being a bad buy? I dare you to find a better deal for $165 dollars than a geforce fx 5900, what is ATI's response to that? Are they going to call up Cindy22 and have him badmouth nVidia some more!? That will surely get their point across......

 

[reever]

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
Cindy22 FIND SOMETHING USEFUL TO POST, YOU HAVE NO LIFE! ATI may be on a hot streak now, but when next gen chips come out, THEN you can boast if they come ahead. All you do is find stuff that negates nVidia in the slightest way, highly unlikely ATI will ever catch up to nVidia in market shares, last time I checked nVidia controlled what? 70% of the market?

Um, here's a good question for you: What is this topic about and what are the precentages given in the first link in the first post?

I dare you to find a better deal for $165 dollars than a geforce fx 5900, what is ATI's response to that?

Why should ATI give a response to that? The whole reason why it costs so low is Nvidia's response to losing marketshare and price/performance to ATI, not to mention profits they are gonna lose by unndercutting THEIR OWN PRODUCTS

 

[Sarobi]

Well, I guess this is an excellent example of the power of branding. Here I was being a diligent consumer trying to figure out the best value/performance for my particular needs and budget when all I really had to do was just pick a brand. I guess leaving my brain sitting outside on the doorstep is pretty liberating after all ---NOT!!!

 

[SneakyStuff]

Why should ATI give a response to that? The whole reason why it costs so low is Nvidia's response to losing marketshare and price/performance to ATI, not to mention profits they are gonna lose by unndercutting THEIR OWN PRODUCTS

How are they undercutting their own products if they are making a profit selling more of them? My only gripe in this entire post is Cindy22's ignorance, he chose a 3dmark benchmark, to make a blanket statement, what he has basiclly done, is find an article that supports something he likes, posts it, and since it's on the internet, it has to be right.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Edit- Had a post typed up, ATi's stock symbol isn't ATi

 

[acx]

ATI stock ticker is ATYT.

 

[Acanthus]

BAN THIS TROLL