NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[SteveGrabowski]

What are you suggesting will be the best option for midrange owners that have 970s/290s?

I would probably suggest waiting for the benchmarks.

 

[railven]

What are you suggesting will be the best option for midrange owners that have 970s/290s?

970 Owners, upgrade, IF Pascal improves DX12, otherwise, OC it and hold out.

290 Owners, OC it and wait for Vega.

 

[Sweepr]

GeForce website received a new background. This probably wouldn’t be the most important news of day, if not the fact that this background actually shows the new GeForce GTX 1080/1070 cooler design. This ‘Polygonal’ cooler is successor to NVTTM design. We have actually seen this shroud in numerous leaks in the past few days, today however NVIDIA has officially confirmed that this is the real deal.

http://videocardz.com/59583/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-cooler-confirmed

 

[tential]

I would probably suggest waiting for the benchmarks.

If Polaris is $200, I can sell my R9 290 for more than Polaris now, then buy Polaris and have the same performance but less consumption.

Waiting for benchmarks drops the resale value of my R9 290.

 

[topmounter]

What are you suggesting will be the best option for midrange owners that have 970s/290s?

I expect that I'll wait for AMD regardless, but whatever card falls into your price range / comfort zone, e.g. 970 --> 1070 or 980 --> 1080. It sounds like existing 980 ti owners will benefit more by waiting for big Pascal.


edit: And why are they doing an event on Friday evening? I'd much prefer that they do this while I'm at work and have time to watch / listen

 

[USER8000]

Specifications of GP107 and GP106 leaked:

http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-1000/geforce-gt-1040
http://videocardz.com/nvidia/geforce-1000/geforce-gtx-1050

 

[Glo.]

Errr...

http://vrworld.com/2016/04/25/16nm-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-leak-ahead-computex-taipei-2016/

Is there 8 and 6 pin connector on the GPU?

 

[railven]

Errr...

http://vrworld.com/2016/04/25/16nm-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-leak-ahead-computex-taipei-2016/

Is there 8 and 6 pin connector on the GPU?

The card in the image is denoted as the GTX 980 Gaming. Which does have 8+6 pin connectors.

 

[mikesnav]

Errr...

http://vrworld.com/2016/04/25/16nm-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-leak-ahead-computex-taipei-2016/

Is there 8 and 6 pin connector on the GPU?

Sites matched the highlighted portion in yellow (leaked pic) to existing aftermarket nonreference designs. They determined the leaked pic is from an aftermarket unreleased GPU.

The center is the new GPU, the rest is an existing MSI 980 card

 

[David_k]

Looks like a Dual 8P, There is clearly at least one 8P connector, the second one looks 8P too. But this being non reference card it might be just MSI Thing.

 

[Head1985]

What are you suggesting will be the best option for midrange owners that have 970s/290s?

I have GTX970 and for me its vega 11.
it should be Tahiti replacement and should be faster with HBM2 than GP104 with old DDR5.
I dont want another DDR5 card when we will have 1TB/S HBM2 within 6 monts.

 

[xpea]

I have GTX970 and for me its vega 11.
it should be Tahiti replacement and should be faster with HBM2 than GP104 with old DDR5.
I dont want another DDR5 card when we will have 1TB/S HBM2 within 6 monts.

but not at GTX970 price...

 

[x3sphere]

I think 1070 will end up being the star of the show here. NV will probably charge a hefty premium for the 1080 with GDDR5X being an excuse to bump up the price more. Anyone on a 980 Ti already that wants bang for their buck should probably wait for the true high end Pascal cards.

980 was a bad value relative to the 970, and ended up being completely obliterated by the 980 Ti for not much more taking launch prices into account, expect it'll be the same deal here.

 

[Head1985]

but not at GTX970 price...

Maybe yes and maybe not.But i am 100% sure cutdown vega11 will be faster than GTX1070.
But its not about 970 price.It is about 1070 price.

 

[David_k]

Im sure the GTX XX70/R9 X90 series of cards would be priced higher, this round they both AMD and Nvidia had to lower the prices of this category by a good margin as they were selling more than 2 year old technology. now with the new series and the increased performance Im sure prices wouldn't deep as low.

 

[PrincessFrosty]

As a GTX 980 owner looking to add a bit more GPU kick for running games in 4k, is the 1080 going to be worth the upgrade do you think? Or would it be worth waiting for 2nd gen FinFET GPUs with stacked mem?

I've only recently come back to the GPU discussion so I'm behind on a lot of this and 113 pages of thread is too much info to scan through.

 

[Actaeon]

As a GTX 980 owner looking to add a bit more GPU kick for running games in 4k, is the 1080 going to be worth the upgrade do you think? Or would it be worth waiting for 2nd gen FinFET GPUs with stacked mem?

I've only recently come back to the GPU discussion so I'm behind on a lot of this and 113 pages of thread is too much info to scan through.

Too early to tell since official specs and game benchmarks have not been published. However based upon the leaked 3D Mark scores, we are assuming it is about the same speed as a mildly overclocked 980 Ti so that would be a good basis of comparison. You can look up reviews to see if an OC'd 980 Ti would deliver the performance you're looking for.

The general consensus is that it isn't quick enough. However with my personal experience running an OCed 980 Ti, I was surprised by how well it would run most games @ 4k. This is playing Fallout 4, Witcher 3, and Far Cry Primal. You may need to disable some Gameworks settings (Hairworks, Ultra God Rays, etc) but that has such a minor benefit relative to the performance hit it is worth disabling IMO.

So whether it is worth upgrading to will depend on your tolerance to framerates and reducing settings. I am perfectly OK with 30-60fps and disabling settings that add no real benefit to IQ. However some people NEED 100+ with everything maxxed.

Again, way too early to tell. But running with the 3D Mark scores, it doesn't look like this card is going to advance 4K performance in any meaningful way over GM200. It will be a nice upgrade over GM204 though.

 

[x3sphere]

As a GTX 980 owner looking to add a bit more GPU kick for running games in 4k, is the 1080 going to be worth the upgrade do you think? Or would it be worth waiting for 2nd gen FinFET GPUs with stacked mem?

I've only recently come back to the GPU discussion so I'm behind on a lot of this and 113 pages of thread is too much info to scan through.

I think the 1070 would end up being a better upgrade path (assuming it's as fast as a 980 Ti) and comes in at $300-350.

That will give you a nice bump. You'll probably pay close to double for the 1080, and it still won't be enough to run games at 4K maxed out at 60 Hz. We'll need the full GP100 for that.

Just basing this off the speculation though I could be way off if the real results for these cards are completely different.

 

[airfathaaaaa]

Looks like a Dual 8P, There is clearly at least one 8P connector, the second one looks 8P too. But this being non reference card it might be just MSI Thing.

first molex has 4 pins and the second 3 pins so its a 8+6

 

[Qwertilot]

4k ends up quite bandwidth dependent I think? The HBM2 on the eventual (expensive!) bigger cards should be rather useful for that. The GDDR5X on the 1080 might also make more difference than the raw specs.

We'll know soon enough for the latter

May very well get a 1070/80 for my 4k monitor, but then I'm sort of surviving running it off a 960 for the moment!
(And hate the idea of the really huge TDP tiers of GFX cards.).

 

[jpiniero]

Is nVidia really going to hype up how the cooler looks? C'mon.

 

[Cookie Monster]

A 2560 CC Pascal is keeping up with a 3840 CC Maxwell, looks like clock per clock Pascal's overall throughput is much better than Maxwell.

 

[Silverforce11]

A 2560 CC Pascal is keeping up with a 3840 CC Maxwell, looks like clock per clock Pascal's overall throughput is much better than Maxwell.

If we compare it, 1.2ghz boost on the 980Ti, 1.86ghz boost on the 1080. The difference is ~55% higher clock speeds.

~25% higher performance.

2560 CC -> 3840 CC is a 50% higher CC count.

IPC gains ~20%. Pretty decent. Though I'll stick with my prediction, the gains will be much bigger in compute heavy games and especially DX12 games.

 

[Cookie Monster]

If we compare it, 1.2ghz boost on the 980Ti, 1.86ghz boost on the 1080. The difference is ~55% higher clock speeds.

~25% higher performance.

2560 CC -> 3840 CC is a 50% higher CC count.

IPC gains ~20%. Pretty decent. Though I'll stick with my prediction, the gains will be much bigger in compute heavy games and especially DX12 games.

And because Pascal can be clocked higher than Maxwell, it further improves performance. Won't be surprised to see >2GHz overclocks imo.

 

[raghu78]

And because Pascal can be clocked higher than Maxwell, it further improves performance. Won't be surprised to see >2GHz overclocks imo.

I doubt GP104 has the OC headroom of GM200. GM200 custom cards had some serious OC over the reference 980 Ti and routinely hit 1500+ Mhz boost clocks. Thats a >25% headroom. For GP104 to match GM200 OC headroom it needs to hit 2.35 Ghz max boost clocks.