NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[Gunbuster]

Did you guys see this thing?

Who the hell is GALAX? After looking it up Galaxy is what trying to save money by omitting a letter now? Bizarre

 

[railven]

Love the comments.

People complain that the Founder's edition is an extra $100 and then also complain this looks 'cheap' and might be closer to MSRP. LOL

Pretty sure that MSI model got panned for heating issues. But I think MSI already knew people probably wanted the Ref Board, so they might have seen a niche buyer. I mean I got my nice Ref blower from the 980 Ti in a box. And while dismantling is when I realized just how nice it was, sad for it to rot in a box.

I grabbed the cheapest 970 I could get with a small PCB and threw on a 670 WC block and enjoyed that card for a long time with 1500mhz+ clocks. I don't care how my card looks, but rather how it performs.

I got a Ref 980 Ti because I had plans to water cool it. Now, if they had a Ref Board with some dinky cooler for $620-630 when I was buying, I'd have gotten that instead considering my intentions.

 

[LTC8K6]

Who the hell is GALAX? After looking it up Galaxy is what trying to save money by omitting a letter now? Bizarre

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/74909-galax-formed-union-galaxy-euro-brand-kfa2/

 

[exar333]

Who the hell is GALAX? After looking it up Galaxy is what trying to save money by omitting a letter now? Bizarre

It is a bit weird. I really liked my 'Galaxy' 670. Was fantastic. (no pun intended)

 

[exar333]

Pretty sure that MSI model got panned for heating issues. But I think MSI already knew people probably wanted the Ref Board, so they might have seen a niche buyer. I mean I got my nice Ref blower from the 980 Ti in a box. And while dismantling is when I realized just how nice it was, sad for it to rot in a box.



I got a Ref 980 Ti because I had plans to water cool it. Now, if they had a Ref Board with some dinky cooler for $620-630 when I was buying, I'd have gotten that instead considering my intentions.

Great points.

There is something to be said about the un-boxing process and have a beautifully engineered GPU staring back at you. On the other hand, if you just discard the cooler, who cares?

 

[Grooveriding]

I'm still not buying it. 42db isn't silent, but it sure isn't 50db+. It is 'acceptable' at stock. Again, your experience is your experience. You had multiple cards, with almost 100w more power on each vs. this first gen Pascal. I much prefer WC setups too, but the TX wasn't terrible. A similar cooler on a 160-180w card would likely be fine. 90% of most air-cooled GPUs will be in the same ballpark for noise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w0Oi3kPBhw&feature=youtu.be&t=19

Computerbase.de has videos giving noise levels. Open bench, but that is how most website's noise test results are obtained. It's a hairdryer. I think the cooler is fine for a lower TDP card like the 1080, but it's not ideal as far as noise and temperatures like a double/triple large open air fan cooler would be.

I like quiet computers sure, my main rig is silent unless the PSU fan spins up. That reference cooler is awful though, too noisy. I have a 970 here in another machine, MSI Gaming, you can barely hear it under a full load. The point is just that there is nothing premium about reference cards, they don't perform as well as aftermarket cards do in metrics like noise, overclocking and PCB design. The reference card has aesthetics going for it and that is still a subjective metric, rather than an objective one like noise levels, temperatures or power phases on the card.

 

[moonbogg]

I have my 980ti blowers in a drawer, nicely wrapped. I wonder, when I go to sell them, can I put the blowers back on and list them on Ebay as "980Ti Founder's Editions" and charge an extra $100? It does got that vapor chamber.

 

[TridenT]

Do you guys think selling a 980 Ti and buying the 1080 is a smart move?

I've got a 980 Ti sitting in storage right now that's not going to be used until July at the earliest. Should I sell it and get a 1080 later?

 

[exar333]

Do you guys think selling a 980 Ti and buying the 1080 is a smart move?

I've got a 980 Ti sitting in storage right now that's not going to be used until July at the earliest. Should I sell it and get a 1080 later?

I would sell the 980Ti regardless. It will continue to lose value, and why keep it if you cant use it for 4+ months?

 

[Killer_Croc]

Do you guys think selling a 980 Ti and buying the 1080 is a smart move?

I've got a 980 Ti sitting in storage right now that's not going to be used until July at the earliest. Should I sell it and get a 1080 later?

If you aren't using the 980Ti then I probably would sell it. When the GTX 1080 reaches consumers you will probably see depreciation in the 980Ti prices so if you sell it before the 1080 you will be able to save some value in the sale and avoid a sharp depreciation or depreciation that usually comes with new releases.

 

[Kris194]

New Pascal GPU appeared on Zauba few days ago

PG410 A00 SKU0020 GP 106 256B 256MX32 DP+ COMPUTER GRAPHICS CARDS, 699-1G410-0020-000

https://www.zauba.com/import-PG410-hs-code.html

Looks interesting

 

[Head1985]

Those specs are wierd..
256Bit and 32x SMX?
2048SP and 256bit?

 

[railven]

I have my 980ti blowers in a drawer, nicely wrapped. I wonder, when I go to sell them, can I put the blowers back on and list them on Ebay as "980Ti Founder's Editions" and charge an extra $100? It does got that vapor chamber.

Sad thing is with Nvidia implanting that now as a "model" you might get some suckers who would bid haha.

EDIT:

Do you guys think selling a 980 Ti and buying the 1080 is a smart move?

I've got a 980 Ti sitting in storage right now that's not going to be used until July at the earliest. Should I sell it and get a 1080 later?

I would sell the 980Ti regardless. It will continue to lose value, and why keep it if you cant use it for 4+ months?

If you aren't using the 980Ti then I probably would sell it. When the GTX 1080 reaches consumers you will probably see depreciation in the 980Ti prices so if you sell it before the 1080 you will be able to save some value in the sale and avoid a sharp depreciation or depreciation that usually comes with new releases.

It's not the 1080 that will depreciate that card, it will be the 1070, and if it has the OC headroom, for $380, it can knock the 980 TI's used value well below em (more VRAM, less power consumption, similar performance).

 

[DooKey]

@all asking should they sell their 980Ti

Unless you plan on keeping a 980Ti for a couple more years because you don't want to spend anymore money or it's good enough for your use then I recommend you bail on a 980Ti now while you can still get $400 or so for it.

 

[AdamK47]

Blower cooler cards for life!

 

[96Firebird]

Micro Center has some pretty good AR deals on EVGA cards, new ones must be closing in...

 

[guskline]

@all asking should they sell their 980Ti

Unless you plan on keeping a 980Ti for a couple more years because you don't want to spend anymore money or it's good enough for your use then I recommend you bail on a 980Ti now while you can still get $400 or so for it.

Why take a $250 hit? If you clear 400 you still have to put at least $200 if not $300 in a few months for a 1080. How much more performance will it give over a GTX980 TI?

Another option is to overclock your 980TI.

 

[guskline]

Blower cooler cards for life!

AdamK47, is it 4 1080s, or are you going to wait for BIG Pascal to drop early next year?

 

[96Firebird]

AdamK47, is it 4 1080s, or are you going to wait for BIG Pascal to drop early next year?

Why not both? :sneaky:

 

[Sweepr]

PASCAL SECRETS: WHAT MAKES NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 SO FAST?

In our initial talks with Nvidia and their partners, we learned that the GeForce GTX 1080 is coming to market in several shapes:

GeForce GTX 1080 8GB
GeForce GTX 1080 Founders Edition
GeForce GTX 1080 Air Overclocked Edition
GeForce GTX 1080 Liquid Cooled Edition

Stock GTX 1080 is clocked at 1.66 GHz, with Turbo Boost lifting it to 1.73 GHz. Founders Edition includes overclocking-friendly BIOS to raise the clocks to at least 2 GHz, and the presentation showed the chip running at 2.1 GHz. The main limiting factor for the overclocking beyond 2.2 GHz is 225 Watts, which is how much the board can officially pull from the power circuitry: 75 Watts from the motherboard and 150 W through 8-pin PEG connector. However, there are power supply manufacturers which provide more juice per rail, and we’ve seen single 8-pin connector delivering 225 W on its own. Still, partners such as ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Galax, GigaByte, MSI are preparing custom boards with 2-3 8-pin connectors. According to our sources, reaching 2.5 GHz using a liquid cooling setup such as Corsair H115i or EK Waterblocks should not be too much of a hassle.

Search for performance lead the company to remove as much legacy options as possible, and you can no longer connect the GTX 1080 with an analog display. D-SUB15 is now firmly in the past, and you cannot make the connection work even if you use a 3rd party adapter. The rest of connectors include a 144Hz-capable DVI, three DisplayPort 1.4 and a single HDMI 2.0B connector.

GeForce GTX 1080 has the memory clocked at 2.5 GHz but we do expect some of the samples clocking at 2.75-3.5 GHz (11-14 Gbps). That would raise the available bandwidth from 320GB/s to 352-448 GB/s and we do expect to see extreme overclockers pushing the memory even more. If Micron adopts 10nm process for GDDR5X, we’ll get to 4 GHz clock / 16 Gbps rather sooner than later.

http://vrworld.com/2016/05/10/pascal-secrets-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080

 

[Spanners]

PASCAL SECRETS: WHAT MAKES NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1080 SO FAST?

http://vrworld.com/2016/05/10/pascal-secrets-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080

Amazing clocks, looks like 3Ghz on LN2 will be possible. Nuts.

 

[x3sphere]

Why take a $250 hit? If you clear 400 you still have to put at least $200 if not $300 in a few months for a 1080. How much more performance will it give over a GTX980 TI?

Another option is to overclock your 980TI.

Yeah, scrambling to sell now doesn't make much sense. Price crash already happened, what you can get now for a 980 Ti vs two weeks from now won't change much imo. Might as well wait and see how the 1080 actually performs first.

 

[CHADBOGA]

I sold my 980 Tis for $520 per, and I paid $599 for them

That is amazing.

Would you consider buying second hand GPU's that are older than 6 months?

 

[x3sphere]

$520? Wow. If you can get that then yeah, I'd sell. However most Ebay listings seem to be going for low $400s, with the fee + shipping that's like $340-380 net profit. Doesn't seem wise to take that kind of hit when we still have no concrete info on how Pascal performs.

 

[AdamK47]

AdamK47, is it 4 1080s, or are you going to wait for BIG Pascal to drop early next year?

both