NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[Sweepr]

Holy...and with the possible 2.4Ghz factory OC D:

Yes. Whoever told us there would be minimal gains compared to GM200 because it was already running at its full potential was utterly wrong. And we have rumours of cards hitting even higher clockspeeds, I bet NVIDIA's partners are in love with the Geforce GTX 1080.

...latest news is that Gigabyte non-public version of the card is the GTX 1080 Gaming G1 core frequency can reach 2.4Ghz, compared to the public version of the top 13% frequency increase again.

www.ithome.com/html/digi/225244.htm

 

[Face2Face]

and now GTX1080 OC at 2114MHz:
http://videocardz.com/59882/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-3dmark-overclocking-performance

2 times faster than GTX980 stock and 3 times faster than GTX970 stock

only missing now are the benches from custom AIBs running OC at 2.4GHz

I'm pretty sure this OC was reached without added voltage, as shown in the link. If the 1080 is capable of reaching 2.3GHz with added voltage, there should be no reason why the Founders Edition cooler can't handle it either. These temps are low, and the card probably starts to throttle like Kepler and Maxwell, around 80c ish.

Also, if these slides are true, then I was wrong. Pascal scales like a beast. I'm having a hard time believing that Polaris will OC like this.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The OC is done on a regular reference card. Nothing fancy it seems.

 

[railven]

The OC is done on a regular reference card. Nothing fancy it seems.

Yeah, the 8pin limit on the founder's model might be the biggest limit to the OC capabilities.

Think I'll be going Custom 3rd party all the way this time.

 

[Face2Face]

Yeah, the 8pin limit on the founder's model might be the biggest limit to the OC capabilities.

Think I'll be going Custom 3rd party all the way this time.

I doubt it. Unless you plan on modding your BIOS, Greenlight will limit you well before the PEG connector limitation will.

Also, the 150w from a 8 Pin PEG is just ATX spec. It's capable of drawing much more. I've pulled over 500w from my Lightning alone while OC'd beyond 1500MHz.
That card has two 8 pins: 150 + 150 + 75 = 375w

 

[guskline]

I caaaaaaan't wait for the NDA to lift. Must.. have.. information..!

Are you locked into the GTX 1080 or are you also considering the GTX 1070?

 

[Freddy1765]

Are you locked into the GTX 1080 or are you also considering the GTX 1070?

Depends on performance and price deltas to be honest. Right now I'm just looking forward to reading a bunch of reviews - I'm mostly excited about the 1080 though, since I game on a 1440p monitor.

 

[antihelten]

Yes. Whoever told us there would be minimal gains compared to GM200 because it was already running at its full potential was utterly wrong.

Who in the world ever said that?

 

[MrTeal]

Who in the world ever said that?

Someone mentioned it in one of the other threads (or earlier in this one).


The % gains over stock seem extremely suspect given how little of an OC it is, but if they're anywhere near true and if it can be pushed to 2.4GHz under water, I can't see not getting one. Big problem is that if I want to keep my tubing the same, I need two.

 

[moonbogg]

These clocks are crazy. Even with the huge OC, it appears to be about 30% faster than a 980ti OC, right? The high clocks has me excited to see what the big boys can do.

 

[antihelten]

Someone mentioned it in one of the other threads (or earlier in this one).

They actually said that GP104 was already at it's full potential (i.e. no overclocking headroom) and furthermore that at this level (i.e. max clocks) it would only be minimally faster than GM200?

Just seems hard to believe that anyone would actually claim that.

 

[MrTeal]

They actually said that GP104 was already at it's full potential (i.e. no overclocking headroom) and furthermore that at this level (i.e. max clocks) it would only be minimally faster than GM200?

Just seems hard to believe that anyone would actually claim that.

Yes, and the claim was made that performance scaling would be lower for a given overclock on Pascal than Maxwell.

 

[96Firebird]

Just seems hard to believe that anyone would actually claim that.

The people that claim stuff like that are either delusional (ie. they think they know more than they do) or they want to downplay as much as possible and try to get others to follow along.

Basically, their posts are worthless.

 

[A_Skywalker]

I always wonder how people argue about video cards manufacturers. I dont care which company will make the best card, I will always buy the better card no matter the company, I dont understand why it matters to people.

Back on topic. Does someone know how to purchase from nvidia's website if your country is not listed there?

 

[kithylin]

I always wonder how people argue about video cards manufacturers. I dont care which company will make the best card, I will always buy the better card no matter the company, I dont understand why it matters to people.

Back on topic. Does someone know how to purchase from nvidia's website if your country is not listed there?

It matters because if you pick the wrong company with bad support that doesn't stand behind their products and actually honor warranty replacement.. then you're screwed if it dies in 2 years.

To most people, $700 for a video card is a pretty big investment.. and most wouldn't even consider it if they know before-hand that the company won't honor the warranty to back it up. I know I certainly wouldn't

 

[wingman04]

It matters because if you pick the wrong company with bad support that doesn't stand behind their products and actually honor warranty replacement.. then you're screwed if it dies in 2 years.

To most people, $700 for a video card is a pretty big investment.. and most wouldn't even consider it if they know before-hand that the company won't honor the warranty to back it up. I know I certainly wouldn't

What companys do you consider bad for not Honoring there video cards?

 

[kithylin]

What companys do you consider bad for not Honoring there video cards?

Just what I've heard from other friends of mine.. Asus is apparently -terrible- on support for their new 144-hz Gsync 1440p screens.. as in taking 3-5 weeks just to reply to tickets.. and sometimes delaying until past warranty period ends by not replying with rma's and then people are screwed.. etc.

Someone else in here mentioned something bad about Zotac a couple pages back.

And personally I've had phenomenal awesome support from EVGA.. answering my tickets within 15 minutes, at 3am, on a weekend night, and giving me an RMA authorization by 2 hours later... that was a few years ago back with my GTX 570 though, I have no idea what they're like now.

But yeah.. some companies are jerks about support and warranty, some are fantastic. It varies greatly and should have a big impact on what you buy. Ask around the forums here for suggestions or experiences from others with different companies, there's a lot of groups that sell nvidia cards.. these are just 3 examples.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Just what I've heard from other friends of mine.. Asus is apparently -terrible- on support for their new 144-hz Gsync 1440p screens.. as in taking 3-5 weeks just to reply to tickets.. and sometimes delaying until past warranty period ends by not replying with rma's and then people are screwed.. etc.

Someone else in here mentioned something bad about Zotac a couple pages back.

And personally I've had phenomenal awesome support from EVGA.. answering my tickets within 15 minutes, at 3am, on a weekend night, and giving me an RMA authorization by 2 hours later... that was a few years ago back with my GTX 570 though, I have no idea what they're like now.

But yeah.. some companies are jerks about support and warranty, some are fantastic. It varies greatly and should have a big impact on what you buy. Ask around the forums here for suggestions or experiences from others with different companies, there's a lot of groups that sell nvidia cards.. these are just 3 examples.

EVGA is the king of support, and if NVIDIA hadn't started selling GPUs under its own brand I would have gone with them. With NVIDIA in the mix, I have to go with the actual designer of the card

 

[xpea]

First waterblock compatible with 1080 from BYKSI (less than $100):

http://videocardz.com/59916/byksi-announces-first-waterblock-for-geforce-gtx-1080

and on a side note, custom watercooled 1080 boards will be announced at Computex with 2.5GHz clocks :awe::awe::awe:

 

[Deders]

Yeah, the 8pin limit on the founder's model might be the biggest limit to the OC capabilities.

Think I'll be going Custom 3rd party all the way this time.

It's not the 8pin socket itself as the card will draw as much power as it needs, even if that goes above 150W on one cable. the cable will be thick enough to handle it, although I haven't done the calculations for whether 16AWG will cope with 300W from 2 cards on the same wire.

I have a feeling the limiting factor will be how high the bios will allow the power target to be raised.

The blurb from the founders edition says they will have a bios that allows for high overclocking levels.

This is probably because they know there is a market out there for people who buy their stock models only to remove the cooler and replace it with watercooling.

I'll be looking out for which brands allow for which power targets.

 

[Sweepr]

Custom Geforce GTX 1070 by MSI:

Latest rumour by Chiphell says it's only 15-20% slower than a Geforce GTX 1080.

Apparently custom Geforce GTX 1080 has no problem hitting an insane 2.5 GHz @ water:

Partners, SUCH AS ASUS, Colorful, EVGA, Galax, GigaByte, the MSI are the with the Preparing Custom Boards 2-3. 8-PIN Connectors. ACCORDING to our sources, reaching 2.5 GHz using a liquid cooling setup such as Corsair H115i or EK waterblocks should not be too much of a hassle.

Geforce GTX 1080 @ 2.5 GHz - 3DMark Scores:

Fire Strike: 31.286
Fire Strike Extreme: 15.280
Fire Strike Ultra 7.369

Almost 50% faster than stock clock scores (by VideoCardz):

 

[ShintaiDK]

That's pretty much 2x 980TI at 2.5Ghz

 

[guskline]

Will it be worth water cooling it?

 

[railven]

Will it be worth water cooling it?

If I can hit those clocks and use a Corsair Hyrdo (I got a spare one still left unused) and get them OC's.

~980 Ti SLI for basically ~$100 out of pocket and no mGPU hassle. Yes. Please.

I need to salt myself. I'm getting caught in the NV Hype. Will wait for solid info.

 

[Timmah!]

That's pretty much 2x 980TI at 2.5Ghz

But can it play Crysis?