NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[zentan]

Even with 1080p DSR/VSR can be used,which is a huge plus. Yes,I do hope there will be 1080p tests as well but DSR/VSR implementation comparisons would be interesting along with the necessary 1440p and higher benchmarks.
We will get to see review very soon probably but the r9 290 series review at AT wasn't that impressive .

 

[Qwertilot]

Really is true this time though I think - there's very little reason indeed to get these for 1080p gaming. The 1050/60 (& AMD equivalents) will cover that very nicely, or the last gen stuff for that matter.

 

[mohit9206]

Really is true this time though I think - there's very little reason indeed to get these for 1080p gaming. The 1050/60 (& AMD equivalents) will cover that very nicely, or the last gen stuff for that matter.

No you're wrong. You will need 1070/1080 to play games at 60fps ultra settings at 1080p.
1050/1060 will not allow maxed settings at 1080p 60fps.
Even 980ti struggles to maintain stable 60 at 1080p in last year's AAA titles like Witcher 3 and AC Syndicate.
So even 1070/1080 will struggle to maintain 60fps at 1080p in future AAA titles.

 

[kithylin]

Really is true this time though I think - there's very little reason indeed to get these for 1080p gaming. The 1050/60 (& AMD equivalents) will cover that very nicely, or the last gen stuff for that matter.

I guess you haven't seen GTA-V max out a pair of GTX 970's @ 1080p and still not break 60 FPS everywhere.

Oh yeah and let's not forget Dead Rising 3 that will max out a Titan X @ 1080p and still not break 60 FPS, doesn't support SLI (and never will), and the only way to get it faster is a faster single card.

I'm fairly sure Fallout 4 also still won't work with SLI, and neither will Ark: Survival Evolved.. although we can max out both of these with like a Titan X, or a 980 Ti.. these are expensive cards.

These are just off the top of my head and I'm sure there's a bigger list of non-SLI games that have difficulty with current $300-and-below single video cards. Most notably all the crappy console ports brought to PC with no optimization and the only way to play them well on PC is brute force. Even at 1080p.

If we could get great performance and flat 60 FPS @ 1080p in all these games with say.. a GTX 1070 for 1/4 the price of the Titan X.. yeah it'll be really good for 1080p gamers.

So yes.. PLEASE GODS PLEASE test 1080p benchmarks for the new cards.

 

[guskline]

Does NDA lift tonight? Or next week for launch?

9 A.M. Eastern Time.

 

[hawtdawg]

I'm fairly sure Fallout 4 also still won't work with SLI

Fallout 4 does work with SLI

 

[Termie]

9 A.M. Eastern Time.

Guskline, I actually think nvidia typically chooses 9am Pacific.

Edit: But not this time!

 

[Freddy1765]

Aaaand we're off.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review,1.html

For those interested in 3 or 4-way SLi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBDt9tN5-c (Jayz Two Cents)

 

[PeterAStoll]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/05/nvidia-gtx-1080-review/

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review/1100-6439863/

 

[Borealis7]

NV "founders" cooler hits thermal limit during normal gameplay which hinders Turbo Boost 3.0, why pay extra for that??

 

[railven]

NV "founders" cooler hits thermal limit during normal gameplay which hinders Turbo Boost 3.0, why pay extra for that??

Well, you shouldn't And this ties up to what I said (in some thread). NV isn't expecting the Ref blower to be a high volume part, at least not for enthusiast.

Only people who bought Ref blowers normally removed them and slapped water blocks. Or enthusiast with robust system who can be milked either way.

Average Joe is going to get an MSI Twin Forzr or EVGA ACX. NV is milking those who specifically need/want a ref blower.

 

[Qwertilot]

Also people (not direct customers) who want to be sure of getting precisely the same card for the lifespan of the GPU.

But yes, it doesn't make objective sense for many people at all

 

[JimmiG]

Well, you shouldn't And this ties up to what I said (in some thread). NV isn't expecting the Ref blower to be a high volume part, at least not for enthusiast.

Only people who bought Ref blowers normally removed them and slapped water blocks. Or enthusiast with robust system who can be milked either way.

Average Joe is going to get an MSI Twin Forzr or EVGA ACX. NV is milking those who specifically need/want a ref blower.

To me it seems the FE cards are more about milking those who want to get Pascal early. That's what you're paying for, not for the mediocre reference blower.
Thanks to the higher price and Nvidia store-exclusivity, demand is kept under control while Nvidia (or rather TSMC) work up a decent supply of chips for third party OEMs. GDDR5x might also be in short supply at the moment. The FE allows Nvidia to "launch" the card now, without people accusing them of doing a "paper launch" or being frustrated by the cards being out of stock everywhere for the next 1-2 months.

The third party cards will have better coolers, more OC headroom and they'll be cheaper. All you have to do is wait an extra month or two.

 

[CakeMonster]

The third party cards will have better coolers, more OC headroom and they'll be cheaper. All you have to do is wait an extra month or two.

And we might even be lucky enough to get a glimpse on the AMD alternative within that time frame, despite it being rumored to be lower performance.

Time is ticking though... We are getting closer and closer to the big chip with each month going by. If I have to wait 2months+ to get my hands on a 3rd party cooler 1080, it should be be cheaper to offset the less value I will get out of it before something better drops (big pascal).

 

[railven]

To me it seems the FE cards are more about milking those who want to get Pascal early. That's what you're paying for, not for the mediocre reference blower.

Well those people go hand and hand. But once custom cards come out NV ref cards sit on shelves. That's money lost. Might as well try to get as much from it as you can?

And if you ask me, once AIBs get their custom cards out the ref blower might not be as readily available from them. It might become only available through NV (or their retail partner, Best Buy).

The third party cards will have better coolers, more OC headroom and they'll be cheaper. All you have to do is wait an extra month or two.

Bingo. And once those are out the ref blower might become niche.

 

[mohit9206]

So acc to the review by guru3d,1080 is anywhere between 20-40% faster than 980Ti depending on the game.So avg of 30%.That's decent i guess...for $600.Not for $700 though.
Now if the 1070 manages to be same performance as 980Ti then that's a pretty decent value for money for $380.

 

[linkgoron]

Another solid release from nvidia. Nothing really spectacular IMO (compared to after-market 980ti)- but they easily beat the 980ti OC, and have great perf/watt.

The only thing is the disappointing OC/boost clocks compared to the highly optimistic ones I've seen in this thread, "Easily 2.1-2.5" clocks etc. - at least for the Founders Edition.

Hopefully temps and clocks get much better with after-market cards, and we actually do see 2.5 clocks.

 

[Deders]

Founders edition 1080 allows for 20% over the standard power limit, from 180W to 225W. Will be keen to see what other manufacturers allow for.

 

[Freddy1765]

It is a little disappointing we'll have to wait another couple of weeks for proper overclocking results.
I wonder how much warmer the chip is compared to the 980; could AiBs also run into thermal throttling issues?

 

[frowertr]

Founders edition 1080 allows for 20% over the standard power limit, from 180W to 225W. Will be keen to see what other manufacturers allow for.

Where are you getting this from? Nvidia is saying its around 180w. Guru3D noticed that it was a dozen or so watts higher from their testing.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Reviews:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/...1#.VzsohZErIuU
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages...review,30.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphi...n-16nm-pascal/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...l,4572-12.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...80-review.html

 

[Sweepr]

I'm particularly impressed by the performance in titles that favoured GCN over Maxwell in the past, some of the biggest performance gains are here:

Can't wait to see custom cards in action.
Apparently overclocks are limited by power consumption (only one 8-pin) and not temperature:

If you read some reviews from our long list, then you have probably already noticed that GTX 1080 does quite well in overclocking, but many reviewers had trouble achieving the same clocks that were shown during official presentation (~2114 MHz).

The mini test PCGH performed confirmed those observations. The GTX 1080 is either held back by temperature or restrictive power consumption.

As you know reference model is only equipped with one 8pin power connector. In fact even overclocking tools are limited to 120% TDP, which basically means GPU won’t use more than 215W (8pin power connector and the PCI-Express interface can only deliver 225W of power).

Test performed by PCHG brought a simple conclusion; it is not temperature that is keeping GP104 from achieving higher clocks, but board power limit, which can’t be increased unless more power connectors are added. So I’m guessing we need to wait 10 more days to see what custom cards can deliver in this matter.

http://videocardz.com/60151/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-tested-with-aftermarket-cooler

 

[Innokentij]

Looking for 1500MHz 980TI vs 2100MHz 1080 benches, if anybody seen any please share! Incause u wondering why is cause i always run my hardware to the max 24/7 they will be stable at and is only result that is of any interest to me personaly.

Edit: Found it! Pretty much a 1500MHz 980TI is a 1080 stock card minus the cool new features and better dx12 performance. http://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/...tt_geforce_gtx_980_ti_mit_15_ghz_gegen_pascal

 

[railven]

Looking for 1500MHz 980TI vs 2100MHz 1080 benches, if anybody seen any please share! Incause u wondering why is cause i always run my hardware to the max 24/7 they will be stable at and is only result that is of any interest to me personaly.

I don't think the Founder's Edition is for anyone who is serious about OC'ing.

My personal opinion.

 

[jlee]

I'm waiting for SLI 1070 reviews...debating whether or not a 1070 would be a worthwhile 970 upgrade, or if I should just wait for the 1080 Ti and be done for a while.