NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[MrTeal]

Well, this is disappointing.

PLEASE NOTE:

New NVIDIA® SLI HB bridges are not compatible with EK-FC1080 GTX water blocks! You can still use the regular SLI bridge that comes with every SLI supported motherboard.

So far I haven't seen blocks from Aquacomputer, Bitspower, Koolance, Swiftech or XSPC yet, but hopefully this isn't a common trend. I planned to wait for the custom cards anyway, but it is more than a little silly, especially if it's a fit issue caused by aesthetic angled edges of the new bridge.

 

[moonbogg]

Well, this is disappointing.


So far I haven't seen blocks from Aquacomputer, Bitspower, Koolance, Swiftech or XSPC yet, but hopefully this isn't a common trend. I planned to wait for the custom cards anyway, but it is more than a little silly, especially if it's a fit issue caused by aesthetic angled edges of the new bridge.

The way I see it, custom board partners will have to release their own HB bridges to match their cards. Those silver Nvidia ones will look stupid with the color scheme and design of AIB cards, if they even fit. They are only good for founder's cards which are slower and hot and blah blah. What a disaster those new bridges are. I fully expect custom HB bridges to come out to match the after market cards.

So will you guys be posting your 1080 benchmarks in this thread when you test them out? I'd like to see your numbers, because numbers are fun.

 

[kithylin]

https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-GAMING-X-8G.html#hero-overview

MSI Gaming X 8G GTX 1080 with dragon dual fan cooler and 6 + 8 PCIE Power connectors.

More info here: http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/msi_announce_their_gtx_1080_gaming_x_rgb_gpu/1

EDIT: Here you go folks, round up and pricing. A lot of aftermarket cards in the $650 range. Asus ROG STRIX has a triple-fan 1900 mhz one @ $619

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-custom-model-round-up/

 

[Termie]

^ FYI, the only cards among those that conform to the standard 10.5"x4.4" form factor are the MSI reference knock-off and the EVGA ACX 3.0 SC. Even the ACX 3.0 FTW now has a raised PCB, which it never has before (that was reserved for the Classified).

This is pretty important for ITX users, where both length and height can prevent a card from being installed. I find it a little surprising that a GPU as efficient as the 1080 needs such big PCBs. I have a feeling it has to do with overclocking, as Nvidia released this GPU at such high clocks that board partners are having to pour on the power to get them appreciably higher, which is critical for their product differentiation.

 

[kithylin]

^ FYI, the only cards among those that conform to the standard 10.5"x4.4" form factor are the MSI reference knock-off and the EVGA ACX 3.0 SC. Even the ACX 3.0 FTW now has a raised PCB, which it never has before (that was reserved for the Classified).

This is pretty important for ITX users, where both length and height can prevent a card from being installed. I find it a little surprising that a GPU as efficient as the 1080 needs such big PCBs. I have a feeling it has to do with overclocking, as Nvidia released this GPU at such high clocks that board partners are having to pour on the power to get them appreciably higher, which is critical for their product differentiation.

No offense intended but if you're concerned with non-standard.. size, dimensions, or anything.. then stick with the founders edition reference cards that are all the same. The entire point of the "AfterMarket" cards is "Custom design" and they're all going to be unique and different. Both in design, PCB layout, length, height, width, all non-standard. And they're supposed to be and that's by design and most people already know this about the aftermarket cards.

 

[Termie]

No offense intended but if you're concerned with non-standard.. size, dimensions, or anything.. then stick with the founders edition reference cards that are all the same. The entire point of the "AfterMarket" cards is "Custom design" and they're all going to be unique and different. Both in design, PCB layout, length, height, width, all non-standard. And they're supposed to be and that's by design and most people already know this about the aftermarket cards.

If the FE were $600, I'd already have one (well, if it could actually be purchased, that is).

There are a great number of ITX cases that cannot accommodate cards that are 5" tall, as many of the custom cards appear to be. I'm sure anyone attempting to avoid the early adopter's tax and get a GTX 1080 into a compact build will appreciate my observations.

 

[kithylin]

Overclockers UK showing off their new inventory!

 

[wingman04]

That is a small amount for inventory.

 

[ShintaiDK]

That is a small amount for inventory.

I am sure they got much more than that. Its the show they always do at new releases for any bigger cards.

 

[Qwertilot]

They posted on their forum as > 1.5k sold by 6pm today, and expecting to move over 5k by Tuesday. A bit scary for one electronic retailer but there is clearly stock.

FE apparently selling best, so someone out there likes it (They've had/got some of the custom things as well.).

What is the installed base of say the 980 like?

 

[Arachnotronic]

They posted on their forum as > 1.5k sold by 6pm today, and expecting to move over 5k by Tuesday. A bit scary for one electronic retailer but there is clearly stock.

FE apparently selling best, so someone out there likes it (They've had/got some of the custom things as well.).

What is the installed base of say the 980 like?

1 million 970/980 were sold within ~3 months of launch.

 

[MongGrel]

Overclockers UK showing off their new inventory!

I want the cheezeburger, with toppings.

 

[jpiniero]

They posted on their forum as > 1.5k sold by 6pm today, and expecting to move over 5k by Tuesday. A bit scary for one electronic retailer but there is clearly stock.

That's pretty amazing since most retail stores in the US received 20 cards at most and plenty only got single digits; and it's never really been in stock at Amazon or Newegg for more than a few minutes at least according to nowinstock.

 

[ShintaiDK]

What is the installed base of say the 980 like?

If we use steam, around 1%. So a couple of millions approx.

 

[Qwertilot]

More than I'd imagined somehow It'd be intriguing to know what percentage of that moves in the first week/month etc but I doubt they publish it. Must be huge numbers though.

I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the retail stores just don't try and play the game of keeping up with this early demand. What would they do with say 100 cards - fill all their floor space?!

Its a very much easier sort of game for internet places backed up by a big warehouses to play.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Decided not to get the MSI Aero, so just bought a MSI FE. Should be here with postal on Tuesday or so

 

[CakeMonster]

Aren't you worried about possible noise/throttling with FE?

 

[railven]

That's pretty amazing since most retail stores in the US received 20 cards at most and plenty only got single digits; and it's never really been in stock at Amazon or Newegg for more than a few minutes at least according to nowinstock.

My MC had over 30. I'm not sure exact number since I left the crowd before they ran out of vouchers.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Aren't you worried about possible noise/throttling with FE?

Nope. And I can always adjust the fan profile should it be needed. Its a very silent card in the reviews.

 

[kithylin]

Nope. And I can always adjust the fan profile should it be needed. Its a very silent card in the reviews.

It's already been shown and proven that the founders edition cards, even with a fan profile set to 80% fixed it still gets up to 85c in games even at stock speeds without overclocking. That's.. a heck of a lot of heat to dump into your room, and runs so incredibly hot with that.. and then the fan gets noticeable and noisy.

And then there's the EVGA SC ACX 3.0 card that's the exact same PCB with a better cooler that runs at max 70c - 73c with default fans out of the box, even overclocked to 2000 mhz and with fans that only hit 30% - 40% fans to do it, is completely inaudible, almost silent. And pushed with manual fixed fans to 60% is still just as inaudible, and runs max 62c @ 2000 mhz, and costs -$50 cheaper than founders edition.

I can't understand in my mind what thinking has to happen to rationalize paying +$50 more for something that runs about +25c hotter with noisy fans.

 

[Phynaz]

Temperature <> heat.

 

[rgallant]

It's already been shown and proven that the founders edition cards, even with a fan profile set to 80% fixed it still gets up to 85c in games even at stock speeds without overclocking. That's.. a heck of a lot of heat to dump into your room, and runs so incredibly hot with that.. and then the fan gets noticeable and noisy.

And then there's the EVGA SC ACX 3.0 card that's the exact same PCB with a better cooler that runs at max 70c - 73c with default fans out of the box, even overclocked to 2000 mhz and with fans that only hit 30% - 40% fans to do it, is completely inaudible, almost silent. And pushed with manual fixed fans to 60% is still just as inaudible, and runs max 62c @ 2000 mhz, and costs -$50 cheaper than founders edition.

I can't understand in my mind what thinking has to happen to rationalize paying +$50 more for something that runs about +25c hotter with noisy fans.

such issues on mid range cards are they real ?lol

I'll wait for the big guy and have zero heat dump in the room, zero sound ,and never run higher temps than my gtx780's sli @ 33c

when the big guy comes out , if I wait and not pay the $100 FE fee that will pay for the block ['s].
thank you nv

 

[wingman04]

It's already been shown and proven that the founders edition cards, even with a fan profile set to 80% fixed it still gets up to 85c in games even at stock speeds without overclocking. That's.. a heck of a lot of heat to dump into your room, and runs so incredibly hot with that.. and then the fan gets noticeable and noisy.

And then there's the EVGA SC ACX 3.0 card that's the exact same PCB with a better cooler that runs at max 70c - 73c with default fans out of the box, even overclocked to 2000 mhz and with fans that only hit 30% - 40% fans to do it, is completely inaudible, almost silent. And pushed with manual fixed fans to 60% is still just as inaudible, and runs max 62c @ 2000 mhz, and costs -$50 cheaper than founders edition.

I can't understand in my mind what thinking has to happen to rationalize paying +$50 more for something that runs about +25c hotter with noisy fans.

Do you have a link to the review of the EVGA SC ACX 3.0 GTX 1080 that will run with max boost clock using just plug and play, that is what I want, I don't like to have to tweak.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It's already been shown and proven that the founders edition cards, even with a fan profile set to 80% fixed it still gets up to 85c in games even at stock speeds without overclocking. That's.. a heck of a lot of heat to dump into your room, and runs so incredibly hot with that.. and then the fan gets noticeable and noisy.

The cooler is a better one than the GTX980. The TDP is 15W higher. Bigger die.
The cooler is much better than the GTX680. The TDP is 15W lower. Smaller die.

I think I will be fine without throttle.

 

[Termie]

... That's.. a heck of a lot of heat to dump into your room, and runs so incredibly hot with that.. and then the fan gets noticeable and noisy.

....

Temperature <> heat.

Yeah, all these cards will dump exactly the same amount of heat into your room if run at the same clocks and voltage. The only difference is that open-air cards will force the air to take a detour through your case, and that in fact is a lot of heat to dump into your case, especially if you'll be running one of these dual-connector 14-phase monsters. Amazing that the 1080 needs to be so overbuilt to overclock.

On a separate note, as we've seen with all Nvidia launches since 2014, there is no online stock of GTX 1080 cards in the U.S. I'm fairly confident that Nvidia does this intentionally, as brick-and-mortar stock does more for marketing purposes (witness boxes of cards piled up) and will move at a slower pace, more in line with what Nvidia is actually producing.