NVIDIA Pascal Thread

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ShintaiDK

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This is all highly confusing... so Jayz and the other reviewers out there... (that have been doing this sort of stuff for quite a while now) some how all of them get throttling problems but you don't?

Are you running em with the fans manually set to 80% or something?

All stock and the retail driver.
 

ShintaiDK

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Have you had a chance to run any benches? I got my hands on an extra 1080 and will be doing some tests on my external GPU connection tomorrow. Interesting to know a good benchmark for what others are seeing. 3dmark11 or fire strike...

6700K stock+GTX1080 stock.


I can try something more specific if I got it/can download it.
 

exar333

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Sorry if this was already posted, but it is interesting that NV went on the record saying all Pascal chips have been taped out. I wonder if this means a GP102 in the next 9-10 months?

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/05/31/nvidia-corporations-entire-pascal-lineup-revealed.aspx

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NVIDIA says all Pascal chips "taped out," so rollout likely won't take too long
According to NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang on the company's most recent earnings call, all of the chips based on the Pascal architecture have been "taped out." This means that the designs are done (though there may be fixes required that force NVIDIA to do one or more iterations of the silicon).
 

railven

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Sorry if this was already posted, but it is interesting that NV went on the record saying all Pascal chips have been taped out. I wonder if this means a GP102 in the next 9-10 months?

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/05/31/nvidia-corporations-entire-pascal-lineup-revealed.aspx

Quote:

NVIDIA says all Pascal chips "taped out," so rollout likely won't take too long
According to NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang on the company's most recent earnings call, all of the chips based on the Pascal architecture have been "taped out." This means that the designs are done (though there may be fixes required that force NVIDIA to do one or more iterations of the silicon).

If Vega doesn't sway me over pre-maturely, I can swing for a GTX 1080 ti in 10 months Winter is overtime season where I work, so ca-ching!
 

Cookie Monster

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With Polaris 10 being shown off with a TDP of 150W.. Wonder how the GTX 1060 will stack up. At 1280CC (assuming GP106 has 20SMs - half of GP104) its TDP might be quite abit lower than 150W of the 1070. Performance could be right around a GTX980 or slightly higher. Could have quite the fight on our hands (always good for us since it will drive the prices down).

Things are about to get interesting.
 

Aikouka

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Hm... this may have been mentioned, but I see that the GTX 1080 is available through EVGA's Step Up program. Unfortunately, the non-stock clock models (Gaming and FTW versions) are not available yet, but if you just want the Founder's Edition, EVGA's shroud or the ACX 3.0, you can upgrade.

Although, after looking at the specs... is the Gaming model even worth it? The Gaming and normal ACX models have the same power setup, which means the Gaming model might just be a model with a higher factory overclock for $30 extra. The FTW model is $60 more than the base ACX, but it has better power delivery (dual 8-pin).
 

kithylin

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Hm... this may have been mentioned, but I see that the GTX 1080 is available through EVGA's Step Up program. Unfortunately, the non-stock clock models (Gaming and FTW versions) are not available yet, but if you just want the Founder's Edition, EVGA's shroud or the ACX 3.0, you can upgrade.

Although, after looking at the specs... is the Gaming model even worth it? The Gaming and normal ACX models have the same power setup, which means the Gaming model might just be a model with a higher factory overclock for $30 extra. The FTW model is $60 more than the base ACX, but it has better power delivery (dual 8-pin).

For those wondering, I've also been digging through EVGA info.

Supposedly EVGA Classified 1080 will have triple-bios function via selector switch.
 

StinkyPinky

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Just to clarify my comment on the previous page regarding the 8800GT. I more meant in terms of sales and popularity rather than mere performance metrics. The 8800GT was THE card back in its day and was for a long time, and I was suggesting perhaps the 1070 may be similar.

Although now I see AMD is promising the 480x to be 390x performance at $200 so perhaps I spoke too soon. Really interesting time for GPU's this year which is welcome after a few dull years.
 

Rvenger

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Guys, let's keep the AMD discussion out of here!

-Rvenger
 

Termie

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It's mind-blowing that Nvidia shipped the 1080 so close to its OC limit. The last time we saw this little headroom was with the GTX 770, which had to fend off actual competition in the 280X.

It's pretty clear that it did so due to intra-brand competition... it needed a rationale to price it at or above 980 Ti prices.
 
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ShintaiDK

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I think its more related to the boost 3.0 so the delta decrease. Also higher voltage limited for the X and Strix.
 

kithylin

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Seems odd that it isn't better than the X card?

It's an early pre-release non-review sample for computex show. It's only there to run benchmarks at it's defined default speeds and/or games at default speeds and that's all. No voltage control that works, power limit (as said) is capped at +7%, etc, etc. Probably doesn't have a final bios on it either. I would expect final retail models to have a lot more "room" for OC.

Still though, at 1987 Mhz boost speed out of the box, it's officially the fastest stock-clocked aftermarket 1080 being sold yet. We don't know the speed of the EVGA GTX 1080 classified for another 1-2 weeks yet. But this MSI Gaming X 8G card already surpasses the STRIX from Asus ROG (1932 Mhz).
 

wingman04

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For all the overclocking reviews I've seen there only showing 300MHz to 350Mhz increase for overclock, the GTX 1080 is a turd for overclocking.
 

Deders

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For all the overclocking reviews I've seen there only showing 300MHz to 350Mhz increase for overclock, the GTX 1080 is a turd for overclocking.

I wouldn't say that exactly. People may feel this and that is partly Nvidia's fault for raising expectations maybe too high.

Firstly consider that the base clock is already around 2 thirds higher than we've seen before on a GPU, and faster than any other single GPU on the market.

Then consider you can still overclock by about 300-350MHz. This is about the same range that most cards can be overclocked by, just not the same percentage-wise.

Then we have pre-overclocked cards that guarantee nearly 2GHz, and will most likely exceed 2GHz with a bit more of an overclock. 2GHz on a GPU.

We've not seen any water-cooled models yet, they may allow for more voltage and power.
 

exar333

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For all the overclocking reviews I've seen there only showing 300MHz to 350Mhz increase for overclock, the GTX 1080 is a turd for overclocking.

Lot's of current cards on the market with default clocks ~1000 and only get 100-150mhz OC.

IMHO 10-15% is 'pretty standard' and decent for an OC. Less than 10% would be a 'turd' and getting more than 20% means it is pretty darn good. Most GPUs land somewhere in the 10-15% area. Solid, but not amazing.

Just like with what we saw after SB CPUs, we get used to amazing overclocks and not all products match that.
 

ShintaiDK

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Another update on the "fan issue".

Update 6/2/16 - Driver fix so far has passed internal testing. Fix will be part of our next driver release.
 
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