NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[Dufus]

Anybody know when firmware editing tools are going to be released? There seems to be a big wall at around 2.1GHz. I think if we could give these GPUs more voltage we would be able to get past 2.1Ghz easy with these custom AIB cards.

Not so much the editing but perhaps the signing.

Yes, some increase in voltage can give a little increase in clocks but not sure the extra voltage will be worth it unless chasing records. For my FE 1.2V for 2.2GHz while only ~1V for 2GHz.

 

[Ajay]

Not so much the editing but perhaps the signing.

Yes, some increase in voltage can give a little increase in clocks but not sure the extra voltage will be worth it unless chasing records. For my FE 1.2V for 2.2GHz while only ~1V for 2GHz.

My understanding is that the voltage is locked via electronic limits in the VRMs, not the BIOS :\ Based on your experience - a 20% increase in voltage for a 10% increase in clocks seems to indicate that the GPU is operating near the top of it's power curve anyway.

 

[Dufus]

It possibly is locked however my FE limit was 1.093V with 100% extra voltage, 1.0625V without. Cross flashing gives me a 1.2V limit and VOp in GPUz. It was bandied around that the limit for these cards was 1.25V in the early days.

Maybe others will get better results but that's what I got out of it.

 

[kithylin]

Just something a friend of mine stumbled across trying to buy a AMD card.

This is the nvidia section. So anyone here trying to actually buy one of the new nvidia cards, I hope this helps.

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/

 

[Sweepr]

GTX 1070 (Mobile) - 85W TDP - delivering close to GTX 980 Ti performance

www.purepc.pl/notebooki/nvidia_geforce_gtx_1070_mobile_pierwsze_testy_wydajnosci

 

[Deders]

A normal 1070 delivers close to 980TI performance. How does a card with half the power get close?

 

[mrkip23]

Hello.



At some point after having my system powered on, while the system was 4 days on idle, my GTX 1080 becomes permanently throttled in 3d. The graphics clock was halved from a maximum of 1950-1960mhz (factory OC) to 1285mhz . When this occurs, it doesn't matter how much I load my card, be it games or other demanding applications, it does not ever go past the above caps. The only solution I have had up until now was to reboot the system .GPU-Z reports the "perfcap" reason as PWR
And it happened just once.
I have 0 driver crashes. And normally the event log will show the drive crash report which in my case it doesn't show. So its not related to driver crash.


I have SLEEP and HIBERNATE setting TURN OFF to NEVER. Turn off Monitor have after 15 minutes.


Here is a picture:

Is my hardware GPU failing?
But maybe some kind of unstable factory oc by my card? Mini crash?






Please answer me guys. I am really worried about card and maybe rma this thing.

Also there are many reports by users in geforce forum about similiar issues. THANK YOU

! !

 

[Headfoot]

Could be related to power delivery from the power supply, could be a driver issue. Hard to say

 

[Arachnotronic]

It's called cherry picking the lowest power silicon for mobile.

 

[Deders]

It's called cherry picking the lowest power silicon for mobile.

Have you ever seen that much of a difference on power/perf on the same chip design?

 

[Sweepr]

TechPowerUp's Titan X (Pascal) Review

31.5% faster than Geforce GTX 1080 at 4K
19.3% gain from overclocking with power limit and temperature maxed
Power consumption below GTX 980 Ti / Titan X (Maxwell) levels
Best performance per watt out of all Pascal cards so far (with 12GB GDDR5X)

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/Titan_X_Pascal/

 

[Ajay]

GTX 1070 (Mobile) - 85W TDP - delivering close to GTX 980 Ti performance

Click bait. I just don't believe it.

 

[Sweepr]

Well, then start believing, Pascal scales very well at lower power levels. Desktop model retains 75% performance at 70W(!) according to Tom's Hardware.

85W (cherry picked) mobile parts delivering 90% performance is totally possible.


Edit - Laptopmedia.com just tested mobile GTX 1070. Really close to the desktop model:

Gaming benchmarks of the mobile GeForce GTX 1070 give us hope for 4K gaming on laptops

Tomb Raider 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 129 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 136 FPS

Hitman 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 75 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 80 FPS

GTA V 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 48 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 52 FPS

http://laptopmedia.com/news/gaming-...gtx-1070-give-us-hope-of-4k-gaming-on-laptops
http://laptopmedia.com/review/palit...ew-gtx-1080s-smaller-and-yet-powerful-brother

 

[xorbe]

At some point after having my system powered on, while the system was 4 days on idle, my GTX 1080 becomes permanently throttled in 3d. The graphics clock was halved from a maximum of 1950-1960mhz (factory OC) to 1285mhz . When this occurs, it doesn't matter how much I load my card, be it games or other demanding applications, it does not ever go past the above caps. The only solution I have had up until now was to reboot the system .GPU-Z reports the "perfcap" reason as PWR
And it happened just once.
I have 0 driver crashes. And normally the event log will show the drive crash report which in my case it doesn't show. So its not related to driver crash.

Hi, Litwicki.

 

[yh125d]

Well, then start believing, Pascal scales very well at lower power levels. Desktop model retains 75% performance at 70W(!) according to Tom's Hardware.

85W (cherry picked) mobile parts delivering 90% performance is totally possible.


Edit - Laptopmedia.com just tested mobile GTX 1070. Really close to the desktop model:

Gaming benchmarks of the mobile GeForce GTX 1070 give us hope for 4K gaming on laptops

Tomb Raider 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 129 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 136 FPS

Hitman 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 75 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 80 FPS

GTA V 1080p Max
GTX 1070 mobile: 48 FPS
GTX 1070 desktop: 52 FPS

http://laptopmedia.com/news/gaming-...gtx-1070-give-us-hope-of-4k-gaming-on-laptops
http://laptopmedia.com/review/palit...ew-gtx-1080s-smaller-and-yet-powerful-brother

If all this is as seems, performance scaling when clamping down power may well be the best thing about pascal. That will be great for design wins in ultrabook/tablet/2n1 form factors

 

[Sweepr]

Some updates on mainstream and mobile Pascal:

Geforce GTX 1060 3GB Specs

Launch in early September.

Some Geforce GTX 1050 bits/rumors:
- Arrives in October
- 128-bit (4GB?)
- About half the price of GTX 1060 6GB
- Similar performance to GTX 960

New Geforce GTX 1080 Mobile Specs, according to PurePC
Core clock: 1405 MHz base? / ~1600 MHz boost
Same 2560 SPs / 180 TMUs / 64 ROPs as the desktop version
GDDR5X at 10 Gbps
125W TDP

www.purepc.pl/notebooki/nieoficjalna_specyfikacja_karty_nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_mobile

It's been rumored that this card would use regular GDDR5 instead, but looks like NVIDIA chose the more power efficient GDDR5X in the end.
If these are the actual specs, we are looking at >90% desktop GTX 1080 performance at 125W TDP.

 

[sxr7171]

Some updates on mainstream and mobile Pascal:

Geforce GTX 1060 3GB Specs

Launch in early September.

Some Geforce GTX 1050 bits/rumors:
- Arrives in October
- 128-bit (4GB?)
- About half the price of GTX 1060 6GB
- Similar performance to GTX 960

New Geforce GTX 1080 Mobile Specs, according to PurePC
Core clock: 1405 MHz base? / ~1600 MHz boost
Same 2560 SPs / 180 TMUs / 64 ROPs as the desktop version
GDDR5X at 10 Gbps
125W TDP

www.purepc.pl/notebooki/nieoficjalna_specyfikacja_karty_nvidia_geforce_gtx_1080_mobile

It's been rumored that this card would use regular GDDR5 instead, but looks like NVIDIA chose the more power efficient GDDR5X in the end.
If these are the actual specs, we are looking at >90% desktop GTX 1080 performance at 125W TDP.

This is going to make VR mobile backpack type PCs possible.

 

[alcoholbob]

A normal 1070 delivers close to 980TI performance. How does a card with half the power get close?

More cores, lower clocks, and increasing perf/watt as you run your clocks lower, plus higher quality ASICs. It's essentially what AMD did with the Nano.

 

[Qwertilot]

Except focused into a market where they can charge a massive premium for doing it....

 

[kithylin]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100167748 601211659

They're here! launched 3 hours ago! Laptops with mobile GTX 1070 onboard.

And mobile GTX 1060 laptops are here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100167748 601211658

 

[Sweepr]

GeForce GTX 1070 (Laptop) vs 970M, 980M, GTX 980 (Laptop) and GTX 1070 (Desktop) – benchmarks and gaming tests

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_st_...060+laptop&qid=1471356162&sort=price-asc-rank


GTX 1070 laptops starting at $1699.

Really like this ASUS model. Quite slim/light considering the powerful specs IMHO.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

It's amazing how powerful you can spec a laptop to be today... 512GB SSD, 1TB Storage, 6820HK, 64GB RAM, GTX 1070/1080.

 

[Dufus]

MSI notebook VBIOS show power limits for mobile 1060 and 1070 (GP106 / GP104) as 78W and 115W.

 

[Sweepr]

First reviews of $199 GTX 1060 3GB out (Inno3D model)! Overall close to the 6GB model, and faster than RX 470 (they didn't include RX 480).

http://www.expreview.com/48945-all.html

Another chinese review:

http://diy.pconline.com.cn/827/8271241_all.html

Took a hit in Crysis 3 and AotS next to the 6GB model, but let's not forget it has less CUDA cores as well - very close in other titles. Overall ahead of RX 480 in the games they tested:

NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 10-Series (Mobile Pascal) Tested

NotebookCheck: Nvidia Pascal for Notebooks - In-depth Benchmarks for the Geforce GTX 1080 (SLI), GTX 1070, and GTX 1060

www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-Pascal-for-Notebooks-In-depth-Benchmarks-for-the-Geforce-GTX-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-and-GTX-1060.171566.0.html

- Idle (system power)

- Load @ The Witcher 3 (system power)

 

[Sweepr]

GTX 1050 in mid-October, based on the GP107 GPU:

www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/22509-nvidia-lanserar-geforce-gtx-1050-i-oktober