NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[BonzaiDuck]

AnandTech has an article about the single-slot GTX 1070:

www.anandtech.com/show/10926/galax-shows-off-single-slot-geforce-gtx-1070-graphics-card

I can't read through 173 pages of posts in this thread.

Is there a forum thread where people compared overclocking results, temperatures, etc. for 1060/1070/1080?

Instead of a single-slot card, I think when I started shopping a gfx choice for my Skylake system that I definitely wanted to look at the short or "Mini" cards. So far, the only cards I've seen are the Gigabyte GTX 1070 OC Mini, and the Zotac GTX 170 Mini. The Zotac is about 1.6" longer than the Giga, but still would have suited my purposes. The Giga specs just exceed those of the Zotac base and boost clocks by a few Mhz.

Gigabyte GTX 1070 OC Mini

So far, by "tilting" the curve at select points for the Ctrl-F editor of Afterburner, the Afterburner Core Speed monitor will sustain between 2,038 Mhz and 2,050 Mhz, with all stops pulled out for standard HD 1920x1080 resolution. I started getting artifacts in that core speed range with the Memory clock twisted up an extra 400 Mhz, (for DDR of 8,800 Mhz), and I tuned it down to 380 or DDR 8,760.

Doesn't exceed a peak temperature in the range 65C to 68C, depending on room ambient when running Valley Benchmark or just about anything else. Nor does gaming bring it past 68C.

Even if you can move the Voltage "%" slider to 100%, the highest voltage seems to be 1.093V. Is there something I'm missing in Afterburner to increase that limit?

I can only say this single card seems to be just fine and great for me. Skinny on the street suggests that single-card performance makes an SLI configuration a waste of money for 1440p resolutions -- maybe 2560x1440. I'm not ready to buy even a 1440p monitor yet, and don't like the 4K offerings I've seen so far.

 

[Termie]

People interested in how the 1070 and 1080 scale in SLI at 4K, and how this compares to the Titan XP, might want to check out my new published benchmarks:

http://techbuyersguru.com/4k-gaming-showdown-geforce-gtx-1070-sli-vs-1080-sli-vs-titan-x-pascal

 

[BonzaiDuck]

People interested in how the 1070 and 1080 scale in SLI at 4K, and how this compares to the Titan XP, might want to check out my new published benchmarks:

http://techbuyersguru.com/4k-gaming-showdown-geforce-gtx-1070-sli-vs-1080-sli-vs-titan-x-pascal

Thanks for the review and the reading of it. Only with a small number of readings -- maybe even a single review -- I came to the conclusion that the GTX 1070 overclocked is about equivalent to a GTX 1080 at stock settings. [If you ask me, even the tweaks made to so-called "OC" versions of cards are miniscule compared to a custom-overclocking.] That is, you'd expect a GTX 1070 to OC with a +17% improvement, while the stock GTX 1080 "out of the box" shows a +17% improvement over the 1070.

It's really silly (from my personal perspective), but I could see myself ordering another OC-Mini card just for bragging rights.

Even so, for almost a week now after finding a good, solid OC curve, I wake up every day never ceasing to be impressed with a single GTX 1070.

 

[Sweepr]

Rumored 1080 Ti Specs

- GP102
- 3328 SPs
- 208 TMUs
- 96 ROPs
- 10GB GDDR5X 320-bit 10 Gbps / 12GB GDDR5 384-bit 8 Gbps
- 1607-1733 MHz
- $899

Ps: Conflicting sources about the memory configuration. As always, huge grain of salt required.

 

[Head1985]

People interested in how the 1070 and 1080 scale in SLI at 4K, and how this compares to the Titan XP, might want to check out my new published benchmarks:

http://techbuyersguru.com/4k-gaming-showdown-geforce-gtx-1070-sli-vs-1080-sli-vs-titan-x-pascal

hm in 4k GTX1070 suffer really badly..Its 30-33% slower in almost every game vs GTX1080.I think its because slow GDDR5

Its interesting see that the gap between GTX1070/1080 and GTX1080/TITANXP is pretty much same.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

hm in 4k GTX1070 suffer really badly..Its 30-33% slower in almost every game vs GTX1080.I think its because slow GDDR5

Its interesting see that the gap between GTX1070/1080 and GTX1080/TITANXP is pretty much same.

So . . . overclocked, the 1070 is -- what? -- 15 or 16% slower? Now that you mention it, I'm not entirely sure about the testbed settings for the 17% comparison I mentioned. The testbed may have included 2560x1440.

Meanwhile, I have become attached -- enamored -- of a certain brand of desktop monitor: the BenQ. They have a "Z" model-line with something like an XL 2420Z and include a "Zowie" XL 2730Z -- from 1920/1080 to 2560/1440. And I think the refresh rate maximum spec on those is 144Hz across the board -- but check if I could be wrong.

You could squeeze 10 years out of a decent monitor, unless your techno-lust takes you to the highest next resolution much sooner. On the other hand, you won't find easily a 4K monitor that fills my personal bill. For me, it has to have BenQ features, must be 27" no more than 32", must have all three DVI:HDMI : DP outputs switchable and preferably 2x HDMI, must have ~1ms response rate/time. And the OSD must be as good as BenQ's, supplemented by software as good as BenQ's.

Therefore, returning to an assessment made about the NVidia GeForce GTX 7x0 models, enthusiast-technicians mark the second tier as biggest bang for buck. But I'm always at a crossroads for thinking "maybe next year" for a monitor upgrade, and "will the time run out before I can't get a new twin for my GTX 1070-[whatever]?"

It would also depend on what games you choose for wasting time. Wasting time is not a waste. But which games float your boat, and which are beyond the reach of personal interest?

 

[Sweepr]

Some new bits about the cheaper mobile Pascal GPUs that will replace GTX 960/965 and below!

- NVIDIA will release a lot of new products in CES 2017
- Mobile GTX 1050 and GTX 1050 Ti will be unveiled
- Mobile GTX 1050 is 54% faster than GTX 950M, 31% faster than GTX 960M and 10.5% faster than desktop RX 460
- Mobile GTX 1050 performance sits between the old and the new GTX 965M
- Mobile GTX 1050 Ti is ahead of GTX 970M using a much smaller GPU (135mm² GP107 vs 398mm² GM204)
- Entry-level GP108 might also appear!

www.ithome.com/html/digi/283758.htm

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ces-2017.html

Nvidia CES keynote address on January 4, 2017 at 6:30 p.m. PST, wonder if Jen-Hsun will announce the GTX 1080 Ti.

 

[Termie]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/ces-2017.html

Nvidia CES keynote address on January 4, 2017 at 6:30 p.m. PST, wonder if Jen-Hsun will announce the GTX 1080 Ti.

Nvidia's presence at CES is focused almost exclusively on AI and vehicle tech. I visited their booth last year and I don't recall a single video card being on display. In fact they are located in the automotive section of the show, and this year they're right next to Volkswagen (and have nearly as much floor space). No gaming demos going on there!

While he'll likely mention the 1080 Ti, as a keynote speaker, he'll want to target his talk at the broader CES audience. My guess is that he'll make an announcement on next-gen self-driving tech or another cutting-edge application of Nvidia GPUs.

 

[nvgpu]

https://twitter.com/masseffect/status/814606946267492353

Ready to see more Mass Effect: Andromeda environments and gameplay? Tune in to @Nvidia's CES keynote next Wednesday

GTX 1080 Ti probably running this demo at the keynote address.

 

[Head1985]

Myth busting | GTX 1070 vs TXM. Is GTX 1070 faster than TITAN X Maxwell ?

 

[moonbogg]

Myth busting | GTX 1070 vs TXM. Is GTX 1070 faster than TITAN X Maxwell ?

Yeah, anyone with a Titan X or 980ti from last gen effectively still has current gen performance, just not at the top anymore. One of the things that encourages me to upgrade is a general lack of performance. If 1080ti comes in at over $700 I will skip this whole refresh cycle and quite genuinely not care. Hell, even if the card comes in at $500 (which it certainly won't) I can't be sure I'd bother with it even then. My requirements and the performance levels being offered this generation just aren't inline to spur an upgrade.
I played some GTAV last night, and FPS floated between 75 and 100. So a single 1080ti might actually do worse there since the game supports SLI. Games I have that don't support SLI I have already finished or no longer care about. But if the card looks good and OC's well and comes in at around $700 max, then I might get itchy enough to just go for it. The behavior of the hardware addict is difficult to tame, and I generally are one.

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-laptops

Nvidia officially launches GTX 1050 Ti & GTX 1050 for notebooks.

 

[Sweepr]

NotebookCheck tests mobile GTX 1050 / 1050 Ti

www.notebookcheck.com/Pascal-in-der-Mittelklasse-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti-und-GTX-1050-im-Test.189343.0.html

 

[tviceman]

I wonder what kind of headroom the mobile 1050 TI will have in ~1" laptops. I'm guessing not much, given it's thermal constraints and ~200mhz upclock over the desktop variant.

 

[Sweepr]

Our sources have confirmed GeForce GTX 1080 Ti will be announced today. We are looking at a paper launch with reviews coming at a later date.

http://videocardz.com/65353/watch-nvidia-ceo-keynote-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-announcement-here

At least we will have full 1080 Ti specifications later today.

 

[tviceman]

I'm guessing it will be a further cutdown GP102. If Vega projects to come out swinging hard (faster than 1080 TI) then Nvidia will refresh the entire Pascal lineup to the 1100 series with a full fledged GP102 either as a Titan X card or as a Geforce card based on Vega's price and performance. Nvidia has been able to slow roll either it's entire product stack, or at least the big die chip, since it messed up Fermi and it's seemingly gotten worse (longer between times when AMD comes back with high end performance).

 

[tviceman]

And a million gamers cried out that no 1080 TI was announced.

 

[guskline]

The livestream just ended with no GTX1080TI announcement. I caught the tail end of the livestream and the auto ai was interesting but perhaps the GTX1080TI will be announced later?

 

[happy medium]

Just can't adhere to the posting rules here, can you?
-- stahlhart

 

[moonbogg]

Or you, either.
-- stahlhart

 

[Sweepr]

Perhaps there's a chance we get the specifications and a glimpse of the card in the coming days? Otherwise I'm afraid we will have to wait till GDC 2017 in late February.

 

[Timmah!]

I thought after yesterday i may regret getting my 1080s, which at this point i run only for about 2 months... quite surprising development, i thought 1080Ti reveal was sure thing.

Cant care less about their Shield streaming, but the automotive selfdriving stuff sounds awesome. I am one of those who never got driving license for various reasons, so self-driving cars cant come fast enough for me.

 

[nvgpu]

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-g-sync-hdr-announced-at-ces-2017

 

[Termie]

Nvidia's presence at CES is focused almost exclusively on AI and vehicle tech. I visited their booth last year and I don't recall a single video card being on display. In fact they are located in the automotive section of the show, and this year they're right next to Volkswagen (and have nearly as much floor space). No gaming demos going on there!

While he'll likely mention the 1080 Ti, as a keynote speaker, he'll want to target his talk at the broader CES audience. My guess is that he'll make an announcement on next-gen self-driving tech or another cutting-edge application of Nvidia GPUs.

I warned you guys!

And no, there won't be additional announcements. I'm here at CES and know that Nvidia isn't even booking media booth tours. It's just a show-and-tell booth on AI and automotive, not focused on gaming.