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railven

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Tesla users also pay happily for harvested dies

Ah, an angle I didn't even consider.

Welps, there you go. NV might just segment it if they got the means.

I'd probably want to sell a harvested chip for a few thousand versus at most $1,000.
 

Sweepr

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Nvidia Pascal graphics cards due between May and June; AMD Polaris GPUs expected Q3

Nvidia's new range of graphics cards, codenamed Pascal, will 'most likely' launch this summer.

That's according to a senior source from within the UK tech channel, who said that although rumours suggest the first high-end GP100 Pascal GPU will arrive as early as April, it will most likely launch in May or June.

The source told PCR anonymously: "You can maybe expect to see something new from Nvidia as early as late April, but most likely in the May or June period - it may even be a month earlier or later. Then something from AMD will be following afterwards.

"A high-end Pascal card will launch first, but not a flagship Pascal."

The rest of the Pascal cards are expected to arrive shortly after the initial high-end GPU.


UK distributor Entatech expects both Nvidia's Pascal and AMD's Polaris cards to launch around Q3 this year, and is excited about how they can grow the PC gaming market as a whole.

...."We're hearing Nvidia will launch their cards first and AMD's will likely be a soft launch afterwards.'' Typical AMD!

www.pcr-online.biz/news/read/nvidia...july-with-amd-polaris-gpus-expected-q3/037923

Looking like late Q2 or Q3 launch for GP104.
 

Creig

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The last time Jen-Hsun held up a fake board, it was Fermi and retail cards ended up being six months late. This time he held up a board with fake Pascal chips on it.

Not a good omen.
 

caswow

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"We're hearing Nvidia will launch their cards first and AMD's will likely be a soft launch afterwards. Typical AMD!

We know nvidia was always first to introduce new nodes or even new memorytech. both at once is even something they have perfected. always first...always first silly amd D:
 

Krteq

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Nah, the SKU in the first line has been shipped in August 2014 => not a Pascal at all.



Same with the others.

People have tendencies to mark all SKUs at Zauba as a Pascal these days
 

Stuka87

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We know nvidia was always first to introduce new nodes or even new memorytech. both at once is even something they have perfected. always first...always first silly amd D:

Are you being serious, or just trolling?

AMD was the first by several months to 28nm, they were also first to 40nm, and AMD was the first to use GDDR5 by a long shot.
 

PPB

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Nah, the SKU in the first line has been shipped in August 2014 => not a Pascal at all.



Same with the others.

People have tendencies to mark all SKUs at Zauba as a Pascal these days

Desires and facts tend to get mixed up pretty often in this subforum. No wonder.

Just clicked the "source" to see that his anonymous "source" (sourceception at this point) speaks like your usual OCN.net user. He even said the faux argument of "we need AMD to do well, so we dont get expensive nvidia cards..... errr so we have competition, yeah, competition is good!"
 

Sweepr

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Different sources saying the same thing, announcement @ Computex, launch shortly after. The question is, which Pascal GPUs? Sweclockers points to GM204/GM206 successors (GP104/GP106?), again similar to the BitsandChips rumour/leak.

Sweclockers @ Translate said:
When the introductions are supposed to take place so far has been shrouded in mystery, but now vBulletin reveal that Nvidia has set his sights on the summer. More specifically, the company intends to announce the architecture Pascal for consumers at Computex 2016, which focused primarily will be on gaming notebooks.

The plans may be subject to change. According to the same data are ambiguities around when Pascal is ready, then Nvidia encountered problems. The goal is to launch sharply in mid-June, but the likelihood that the launch window will be moved to later described as great.

As the focus of the launch of Pascal is expected to be on laptops, it's probably not about GP100 - the next monster circuit with an assumed number of transistors on the whole 17 billion . Instead, it is probably an outright replacement for GM204 and GM206, which is used by the Geforce GTX 965M up to the GTX 980th

www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/21783-nvidia-geforce-pascal-till-computex-2016
 

Fallen Kell

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Well I think it will be interesting to see what really happens. We know they will be cranking out GP100's for the HPC purchases that have already occurred. I think it is pretty far fetched to believe that Nvidia will simply hold them back in the consumer market for an additional 8-9 months (the Q1 2017 folk), if AMD actually has a competing product.

Right now everything we are reading is the information and dis-information that they are trying to put out there into the market. But what we do know is that Nvidia will be pumping out GP100's at day one before any other card is released (because they already sold them to major high performance compute centers which have real deadlines on upgrades and integrating the equipment in order to meet deadlines on running simulations on that equipment).

If you believe Nvidia will sit on their high end card while AMD releases something that beats Nvidia's top consumer card, you havn't looked at the last 4-6 years of history (I mean, seriously look at the 980 TI release for the latest example of what I am talking about...).

So Nvidia is announcing right now that they will not be ready for consumer GP100. I truly believe it is because they want to see if AMD takes the bait and then leaks more information about their high end card. Even if AMD doesn't take the bait, Nvidia is still simply holding onto the real release date. If Nvidia's GP104/106 happens to compete head to head with AMD's offerings and AMD doesn't have a clear performance lead, Nvidia will probably hold off on the GP100 cards until the Q1 2017 to maximize profits on the GP104/106 (and get the guys who always upgrade to the latest and greatest to buy a GP104/106 and then upgrade when the GP100's come out). If AMD does have a performance contender, then Nvidia will release GP100 early (since they are already making the chips needed for the cards).
 

skipsneeky2

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A good chance of a Pascal GTX 960/GTX960 TI type card before September?Saving up about maybe $200-$260 or so with maybe a August/September time frame of purchase.

Something tells me a $200-$250 Pascal "GTX1060" type card would be at least as quick as a 970.660 was faster then 570,the 760 is as fast as a 670 and the 970 clearly is faster then a 680/780.

Thoughts?Made the move to 1440p and while the 660 works well enough,a new gpu certainly is in order.
 

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A good chance of a Pascal GTX 960/GTX960 TI type card before September?Saving up about maybe $200-$260 or so with maybe a August/September time frame of purchase.

Something tells me a $200-$250 Pascal "GTX1060" type card would be at least as quick as a 970.660 was faster then 570,the 760 is as fast as a 670 and the 970 clearly is faster then a 680/780.

Thoughts?Made the move to 1440p and while the 660 works well enough,a new gpu certainly is in order.

I think they'll just cut price of the GTX 970 in 2015 and release a Pascal GTX 1060 type card with ~970/980 performance in early 2017. They did the same with Maxwell, and it worked.
 

skipsneeky2

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I think they'll just cut price of the GTX 970 in 2015 and release a Pascal GTX 1060 type card with ~970/980 performance in early 2017. They did the same with Maxwell, and it worked.

A discounted 970 would be nice,a $200 card with 970/390 performance would be perfectly in my range.

The 390 i think will get one hell of a price drop,making it the obvious $200-$250 choice.
 

sm625

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You know nvidia is going to charge at least $350 for any new card that matches a 980 in performance. Its not like they are going to pass anything on to the consumer.
 

Head1985

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Gtx980 is almost 2 years old crap.Why they need charge 350USD for 16nm GPU with same performance?
That gpu can be around 200mm2 big at 16nm to match GTX980.
Btw x60 GPU always cost 250USD max.
 
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swilli89

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Gtx980 is almost 2 years old crap.Why they need charge 350USD for 16nm GPU with same performance?
That gpu can be around 200mm2 big at 16nm to match GTX980.
Btw x60 GPU always cost 250USD max.

Because they're nVidia, and that's what they do. Literally, your only hope is if AMD brings the heat in the price range, and then I guess you can still oddly enough, reward nVidia by buying whatever it is they priced to compete with AMD in that $250 range.
 

lilltesaito

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Because they're nVidia, and that's what they do. Literally, your only hope is if AMD brings the heat in the price range, and then I guess you can still oddly enough, reward nVidia by buying whatever it is they priced to compete with AMD in that $250 range.

It would not shock me if AMD also ups their prices this time around. After the increase with Fiji cards, who knows what will happen.
 
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