Are *are* confident that 1070 will beat Polaris, or it would have gotten delayed with GDDR5X memory, too.
It's probably about the same performance range as the 490X.
Are *are* confident that 1070 will beat Polaris, or it would have gotten delayed with GDDR5X memory, too.
Now Reveals a source of more concrete information about launch plans, where the big news is that the GTX 980 Ti is confirmed to be replaced.
According to the plans as Nvidia started to communicate outwardly partner should Geforce GTX 980 and GTX 980 Ti replaced in May, where most points at the end of the month to steal the spotlight at Computex, which kicks off May 31 This is followed in June by a graphics card that succeed the popular bestseller GTX 970th
The information is enhanced not least by Nvidia and partner manufacturers started to clear their stocks of Geforce GTX 980 Ti, GTX 980 and GTX 970. Interestingly, the manufacturers still have the option to add new orders for Geforce GTX Titan X, even though it is in terms of performance rather GTX 980 Ti being replaced.
By all accounts replaced the trio of two graphics cards, which are likely to be on several previous occasions mentioned Geforce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. The duo will use the new memory standard GDDR5X, a further development of GDDR5 which offers 43 (10 Gbps) and 71 percent (12 Gbps) higher bandwidth than today's GDDR5 memory at 7 Gbps, which is used by the GeForce GTX 970, GTX 980 and GTX 980 Ti.
They *are* confident that 1070 will beat Polaris, or it would have gotten delayed with GDDR5X memory, too.
Just when you thought rumours were starting to make sense...
Geforce GTX 980 and Geforce GTX 980 Ti to be replaced in May, Geforce GTX 970 successor in June
www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/21978-nvi...ti-far-ersattare-i-maj-gtx-970-avloses-i-juni
- Geforce GTX 970, GTX980 and GTX 980 Ti will be replaced, manufacturers clearing stock
- Geforce X80 (?) to replace Geforce GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti in late May, expected to steal the spotlight at Computex
- Geforce X70 (?) in June
- Geforce X80 & X70 will use GDDR5X
Perhaps they got the last part wrong and only one of the cards (Geforce X80) should use GDDR5X, but that wouldn't fit a late May launch (even paper launch?).
As far 1070 and 1080 go, I did say earlier that I had a feeling NV is opportunistically trying to raise the price of mid-range even further to keep skyrocketing their profits/margins.
Two 8-pin? Maybe Pascal really is Fermi 2.0...
Just when you thought rumours were starting to make sense...
Geforce GTX 980 and Geforce GTX 980 Ti to be replaced in May, Geforce GTX 970 successor in June
www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/21978-nvi...ti-far-ersattare-i-maj-gtx-970-avloses-i-juni
- Geforce GTX 970, GTX980 and GTX 980 Ti will be replaced, manufacturers clearing stock
- Geforce X80 (?) to replace Geforce GTX 980 / GTX 980 Ti in late May, expected to steal the spotlight at Computex
- Geforce X70 (?) in June
- Geforce X80 & X70 will use GDDR5X
Perhaps they got the last part wrong and only one of the cards (Geforce X80) should use GDDR5X, but that wouldn't fit a late May launch (even paper launch?).
In the Graphic segment, were enthusiastic about the early success of our GDDR5X a discrete solution for increasing data rates above 10-gigabits per second. Weve several major design wins and expect to have the products available by the end of the current fiscal quarter.
There is a limit to this game. If they become reckless in the pricing, consumer faith will be lost regardless whether there is competition around or not. Let's also remember the GTX 970 launch price was lower than the GTX 670.
That being said, I don't think the GTX 1070 will be cheap. New node (FinFET is more expensive), strained world economy, currency wars between China and the US, weak consumer spending, inflation etc. all add up to the price. But even if hypothetically speaking AMD was gone or become irrelevant, NV couldn't simple triple nilly-willy the price of their products because lulz we can. No. Are they opportunistic? Sure, but they're not that recklessly stupid to ruin their business.
If this would be true, it would mean that both GTX x70 and GTX x80 would consume from 300 to 375W alone, not to mention rest of the PC
That's clearly a translation mistake. What they are trying to say most likely is that both 1070/1080 will have 8-pin connectors. 8-pin alone provides 150W, which means together with PCIe, it will be enough for any GP104 Max overclocked card.
I don't know RS, I read through all this sludge and the same "crime" can be applied to AMD. You don't seriously think AMD isn't going to rebrand Polaris with faster memory as soon as the opportunity arises?
I still don't get why people insist on comparing Polaris to GP104. It's the equivalent of expecting 7850/7870 to beat 670/680.
My point is purposely relabeling 660Ti successor as a 1070 so you can raise prices on both the 1070, which should have been a 1060Ti and 1080.
That's why if AMD has nothing against GP104, NV can low ball performance AND raise prices by manipulating 1060Ti to take 1070's place. Why do you think many of us stress how competition is so vital to a healthy GPU market?
Competition is "vital" to driving prices down, but it's terrible for corporate profits. Once a market is so "competitive" to the point that nobody is making money, competitors drop out because there's no real incentive for those companies to pursue the market any longer.
That's why there are now only two dGPU makers left.
The more lucrative a business potentially is, the more aggressively companies will invest, which means better products.
Yes then the winner starts looking for more ways to make even more money, for example with planned obsolescence or focusing on alternative, higher-margin business like deep learning, AI etc instead of gaming.
May I remember you that PC Desktop + Laptop GPU market is shrinking at very fast pace (more than 20% YoY) ?Yes then the winner starts looking for more ways to make even more money, for example with planned obsolescence or focusing on alternative, higher-margin business like deep learning, AI etc instead of gaming.
RussianSensation is right. I miss the times when we could buy flagship GPU (GTX 280 equal nowadays to Titan X) for 649$ and GTX 260 (equal nowadays to GTX 980 Ti) for 449$. What we call now GTX 1080 was more like GTS 250 back in the days.
May I remember you that PC Desktop + Laptop GPU market is shrinking at very fast pace (more than 20% YoY) ?
That soon, it wont be enough profit to pay R&D and tape out these multi billion dollar ICs on more and more expensive nodes ?
Nvidia HAS TO find new application for their IP and silicon or they wont be able to continue.
No choice here, it's just survival 101...
Do you realize how off-base this sounds? The amount of GPU power that you can buy today for the same amount of $ that you would have had to shell out 5-10 years ago is staggeringly higher. There are very few industries in which you get substantially better products today than you could yesterday for the same price, if not cheaper (adjusting for inflation).
Do you complain that when you go to the grocery store to buy food that you're getting basically the same food (if not lower quality) for more than you would have paid 10 years ago?