For what it's worth the leaked pics of the two GP104 samples both had the date stamp as 1614, or in other words the 14th week of 2016, which would be just 2 weeks ago.
So the samples might only have gotten into the hands of OEMs very recently, which might help explain the lack of leaks so far.
GK104 and GM204 performance didn't leak until days before release. But hey, Nvidia hasn't demonstrated working silicon so they're obviously months behind AMD, right?!
I don't recall those but Titan X certainly was leaked much earlier.
It leaked 6 months earlier in charts that were spot on accurate with the power usage down to the T. But folks ignored it, like yourself, because you were expecting Titan X to be much faster than the 980 ("it's got 50% more of everything!"), more than 30% anyway and so you didn't believe it.
The pictures of the die was also leaked ~ a month before release, when we find out it was big, and the chip, isn't a QA sample but a mass production chip.
Fiji was also leaked many months earlier, with performance metrics on par with Titan X for the 22 games that it was leaked. This is what I am talking about when I mean a detailed leak, lots of game benches. Not a QA sample chip pic, with QA GDDR5X... this is something that AIBs would be testing QA for, a long way from volume production.
If nvidia have it why wouldn't they launch it as titan again? $999 card but limited numbers first with lotsa memory and dp compute, and then release a $550 or $650 geforce.
Instead of building the volume for geforce launch.
seriously who cares about dp perf when it comes to games? there is no engine atm that needs that kind of power to be utilised
No one, but the original Titan card was also sold in part based upon it's DP capability as a sort of Tesla-lite card.
Not to gamers, it wasn't. We had posters on this and other boards use it to justify the price, but it's simply not used in games. The latest Titan doesn't have it and people bought it anyway.
They can't release it without HBM2. Once we have it we'll see what happens.
Eerm, yeah that's what I said (the "no one" part), and obviously gamers don't buy Tesla like cards, they have no use for it.
Point is though that Titan did also have uses outside of gaming. I'm perfectly aware that some people who bought the card for gaming tried to use the DP capability as justification for said purchase even though they would never make use of it, but that doesn't mean that no one ever made use of said capability.
The Titan X is of course a different story given it's lack of DP capability, but where talking about the GP100 here, so that's not really relevant.
Every Geforce has use outside of gaming thanks to CUDA. The DP compute tasks are not the only ones in existence.
The main advantage of Titan X over 980Ti was the double of VRAM. Thats something you definitely want to have (at least with my kind of "compute" stuff) and probably worth the price difference between the 2. If the best Pascal GPU to buy for the rest of 2016 and even after that gonna be GP104 with less VRAM than TX, only maybe 20 percent faster and at a price of 980Ti (which is 700 - 800 EUROs over here), then i guess i am keeping my money, cause i am not offered better product overall, which is something i expected to happen, when i decided not to buy Maxwell card last year.
Of course Geforce can also be used outside of gaming, but in the case of Titan, it was mainly its DP capability that set it apart from other Geforce cards when it comes to non-gaming usage.
Of course with Titan X, this feature went down the drain. The additional memory is kinda meh in my opinion, since you can often get normal Geforce cards with double the normal amount of memory, so not really unique to Titan X.
It will be interesting to see when the first cut down GP100 dice make it into a Titan class GPU w/HMB2.
This probably won't be happening.
I would think that NV would want this out in time for back to school sales, if possible. Then we have to wait until Nvidia accumulates enough GDDR5X to release a new 980Ti as early as possible for Christmas sales.
It will be interesting to see when the first cut down GP100 dice make it into a Titan class GPU w/HMB2.
This probably won't be happening.
This isn't happening. A Titan with HBM2 is what GP102 is for and should be enough to compete with Vega. I would not be surprised if Vega 10 is like GP100 in that it won't be sold as a consumer product, only for HPC and workstations.
Eerm, yeah that's what I said (the "no one" part), and obviously gamers don't buy Tesla like cards, they have no use for it.
Point is though that Titan did also have uses outside of gaming. I'm perfectly aware that some people who bought the card for gaming tried to use the DP capability as justification for said purchase even though they would never make use of it, but that doesn't mean that no one ever made use of said capability.
The Titan X is of course a different story given it's lack of DP capability, but where talking about the GP100 here, so that's not really relevant.
This probably won't be happening.
I would not be surprised if Vega 10 is like GP100 in that it won't be sold as a consumer product, only for HPC and workstations.
It will if nVidia needs it to compete against Vega and has nothing else. Maybe the GP102 is a real thing though, and that will be the next Titan.