Add $100-150 to the 1080 and cut the performance on the 1070 by 10-15% and that would make sense. Plus you know they will do something to gimp the 1070. No idea about OC headroom.
I don't like AMD. AMD is the Call of Duty of the hardware world. Same old crap year after year for so long that I just ignore them now. Their image in my mind is completely destroyed. They are synonymous with low performance and disappointment. Its too bad that ATI got sucked into that black hole and their GPU's are now tarnished with the terrible AMD name, but that's what happened and I can't separate the two. AMD GPU's have better longevity lately and if that continues then my mind will probably change, but for now I am not considering Polaris, like not at all actually. Just being honest. It doesn't have to be logical for me really. I just don't like AMD. Would you hang out with someone that you just don't like? Nope, probably not. I won't put something I don't like into my rig.
A May launch will be great for us. It will probably kill AMD but there is probably no avoiding that. This puts NVIDIA ahead by upwards of 6 months.
Why stop there? NV is easily 12 months ahead. They are so ahead they just don't give a damn and will demo fake Pascal GPUs all day long. Just because.
Why does this news upset you? The sooner we get new cards the better.
Well let's hope both sides launch close so they will be price competitive, giving us gamers a good deal!
Did you see the followup comment? The guy claims Polaris is just hot air, but Pascal is REAL, it's coming soon! For real!
Big if, since I'm not expecting GP104 in May, but if they did release that early with GDDR5 it would make a good refresh similar to Kepler where GP104 gets relaunched as 1170 with GDDR5X in Q1 2017 with GP100 filling in the top end.
In light of the recent poll results in another thread, it's not at all surprising to see some people's panties getting all up in a twist over this news.
Who?
I read this thread, I don't find those examples at all.
Who?
I read this thread, I don't find those examples at all.
Hopefully the rumor is true and PC Pascal arrives soon.
Polaris is ready, Pascal isn't. Pascal is set for Q3 2016, Polaris for 2H2016. Polaris should arrive around June/July whereas we might see Pascal around August/September.
Card "launching" in may, but non-reference models in July = paper launch spotted!
No. Polaris actually exists. Been shown working. Pascal, on the other hand, we've only seen fake mock ups.
i rather take a closed showing of an actual chip that was proved by journalists than a lying ceo holding up a mockup AGAIN claiming it ist pascal what they are seeing D:
@Arachnotronic
To be fair, we also have people here claiming that Polaris paper launches in fall even though we know that they have at least one working polaris chip (most likely two but the second wasn't showed to the public).
NV will announce Pascal in June which makes the release in the July/August time frame... According to these leaks NV will be showing Pascal in May and announcing it in June.Ask and you shall receive:
^ person who implied that he/she was responsible for NVIDIA market share loss claiming that Polaris is "ready" and that Pascal isn't and shoots down the idea of NVIDIA being time to market w/ AMD.
Claiming NVIDIA will "paper launch" Pascal in July even if GPUs announced in May.
Seems like an attempt to spread FUD by suggesting that NVIDIA doesn't have working samples of Pascal just because they didn't bother to stick Pascal prototypes on the Drive PX2 mockup, even though NVIDIA itself said that Drive PX2 samples won't be available until 2Q 2016.
http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/n...-in-car-artificial-intelligence-supercomputer
Seems to jive with GPU availability in 2Q to gaming customers which are far more important than Drive PX2 customers.
You might be right, but I don't keep a card for long so it won't really matter to me. It also appears the mass market doesn't care either. Just the blowhards on meaningless forums care. Perspective is important.
weren't people saying pascal is just maxwell with fp64? Gotta choose one of the two, either it's a significant change and nvidia will try to capitalize on this or else i don't see why maxwell would suffer much in future titles. way too early to tell.
Why not Big Polaris? Personally I'm ultra excited for VR otherwise I would ride this 290x for another two years. I'd love to pick up an 8 core Zen for $250 if it lives up to the promises to go along with that Big Polaris or Big Pascal
Why stop there? NV is easily 12 months ahead. They are so ahead they just don't give a damn and will demo fake Pascal GPUs all day long. Just because.
You need your own GPU rant opinion piece lol.
If you're looking to be excited, though, AMD will NEVER really excite you the way Nvidia does. Nvidia could get you excited about paint drying. AMD can't get you excited about a Ferarri.
Like the 980Ti excited me. Fury X still ends up being the better GPU for me. But I won't buy Fury X, because it's gross.
NV will announce Pascal in June which makes the release in the July/August time frame... According to these leaks NV will be showing Pascal in May and announcing it in June.
Great post Aracnothronic, really exposes the double standards here.
No, according to the leaks different Pascal products will be demonstrated in April @ GTC and May, with possible launch @ May-July timeframe. Completely different from the FUD we've heard from the usual suspects: 'AMD/Polaris has a 6 month advantage to market'.
Anyway, no matter what one's preference, next gen cards are gonna be pretty sweet.
The problem wasn't Nvidia not showing Pascal chips, which wasn't even expected/required, the problem was showing Maxwell chips while saying the following words "next generation GPUs based on Pascal architecture".Seems like an attempt to spread FUD by suggesting that NVIDIA doesn't have working samples of Pascal just because they didn't bother to stick Pascal prototypes on the Drive PX2 mockup, even though NVIDIA itself said that Drive PX2 samples won't be available until 2Q 2016.
Is that based on leaked specs, discussed arch improvement, or is it just Nvidia's past record and credibility?Looking forward to picking up a couple of 1080s.