NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[Silverforce11]

It's going through their prior generations, Fermi, Kepler, Maxwell and finally Pascal.

Here's Kepler: http://orderof10.com/astronomy

^ That's the Orion Constellation for those who are interested.

 

[linkgoron]

Great PR (seriously).

Unless I'm missing something, "order of 10" means that indeed the 1080 naming is certain?

http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2419-mystery-orderof10-box-mentions-fermi-we-are-decoding-it

 

[Kris194]

We'll find out on Friday, one hour before Battlefield reveal

 

[Ajay]

Only 03 days, 18 hours and 46 minutes to go. LOL!

 

[Silverforce11]

Only 03 days, 18 hours and 46 minutes to go. LOL!

NDA so you aren't gonna find out info til the reviews go live.

Reference card release directly from NV, tightly-controlled launch, no leaks. Think the special invited press will dare leak? :/

The only solid leak has been from MSI with their quality control samples of GP104 made in April!

 

[Markfw]

OK, You would not listen to esqared, I am locking this children.

sick of off-topic and trolling, and baiting.

Edit: I have reconsidered, but knock off the trolling, or it will be locked again.

 

[railven]

Just a wild thought, any chance NV is going to support FreeSync (or whatever it's VESA standard name is)?

I hope NV realizes if they support this standard they open up their audience just a tad more.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Just a wild thought, any chance NV is going to support FreeSync (or whatever it's VESA standard name is)?

I hope NV realizes if they support this standard they open up their audience just a tad more.

Adaptive Sync. Pretty much zero with Pascal.

 

[railven]

Adaptive Sync. Pretty much zero with Pascal.

Dang

 

[steve wilson]

At this point I'd be happy even with a paper launch as long as we get some solid information. The trigger finger has been getting itchy at the thought up pushing the beautiful big red upgrade button.

I feel ya... the itch needs to be scratched soon.

Also don't you mean the big GREEN upgrade button?

 

[Sweepr]

NVIDIA PASCAL: THE SECRET OF HIDDEN DIRECTORY

In just a few days, Nvidia will unveil their mainstream products based on the Pascal architecture. Under the codename GP104 and GP106, Nvidia is preparing the arrival of approximately five different products. GP104 is the more high-end part of the two (i.e. the first derivative of GP100, the big Pascal chip from Tesla P100), scheduled to power GeForce GTX 1060 Ti (6GB GDDR5), 1070 (8GB GDDR5) and 1080 (8GB GDDR5X). GP106 silicon will power the GeForce GTX 1050 (2GB GDDR5) and 1060 (4GB GDDR5).

http://vrworld.com/2016/05/03/nvidia-pascal-secret-hidden-directory

Ps: Keep it clean and on topic guys. Ignore troll/flame posts.

 

[Pinstripe]

Ohhh interesting. GP106 launch, too? Wonder how AMD will react...ahem.





You folks didn't think I was serious?

You're removed from VC&G for a month.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Dude asks for no trolling, the next post imminently starts baiting people into another mud flinging contest. Classy.


I don't see a source on the reveal claim so I'm going to assume it's just another echo of the press event rumours with some extras thrown in for clicks.

 

[exar333]

NVIDIA PASCAL: THE SECRET OF HIDDEN DIRECTORY



http://vrworld.com/2016/05/03/nvidia-pascal-secret-hidden-directory

Ps: Keep it clean and on topic guys. Ignore troll/flame posts.

The 1060Ti on GP104 is definitely surprising! If true, that could be a great entry-level VR option. The 1060 vanilla with 4GB would be a great 1080P budget option, probably ~100w too.

If true, this would be a great selection of cards to launch, from top to bottom. can't wait to see benches.

 

[tential]

Just a wild thought, any chance NV is going to support FreeSync (or whatever it's VESA standard name is)?

I hope NV realizes if they support this standard they open up their audience just a tad more.

I dunno with pascal, but I think if Polaris is targeted at mainstream with cheap prices and if amd is intelligent enough to push freesync(lol and amd intelligent business practices....) I think it could pressure and to make freesync work with their gpus.

Gsync is just so poorly adopted and so many hurdles to success it just hurts people from buying Nvidia gpus. I don't see how a massive gsync premium helps Nvidia sell Nvidia gpus. Because of it, I can't get the monitor I want and use Nvidia for the long foreseeable future

 

[railven]

The 1060Ti on GP104 is definitely surprising! If true, that could be a great entry-level VR option. The 1060 vanilla with 4GB would be a great 1080P budget option, probably ~100w too.

If true, this would be a great selection of cards to launch, from top to bottom. can't wait to see benches.

I have bad memories of the GTX 465. And the GTX 560 448-core version was also power hungry compared to it's win over the 560 Ti.

With that track record in mind, I'm a tad cautious of the 1060 Ti especially at being good perf / watt.

EDIT:

Gsync is just so poorly adopted and so many hurdles to success it just hurts people from buying Nvidia gpus. I don't see how a massive gsync premium helps Nvidia sell Nvidia gpus. Because of it, I can't get the monitor I want and use Nvidia for the long foreseeable future

I agree. The G-Sync tax puts a TN Panel on the same price point as an IPS panel, which blows my mind. They either need to switch to support Adaptive also or give monitor vendors more incentive to use G-Sync.

Hell, I think even a free game with a monitor purchase would help swallowing that pill.

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 1060Ti on GP104 is definitely surprising! If true, that could be a great entry-level VR option. The 1060 vanilla with 4GB would be a great 1080P budget option, probably ~100w too.

If true, this would be a great selection of cards to launch, from top to bottom. can't wait to see benches.

It just shows how important GDDR5X is when you essentially have 2 identical cards with and without before you cut down into a "GTX970" with the 1060TI.

And I hope all GP106 cards will be 75W or below to avoid a power connector.

 

[Genx87]

Im looking forward to seeing what is under the hood. Also the pricing and performance of these cards. I am looking at the 1070 if the price is right.

 

[exar333]

It just shows how important GDDR5X is when you essentially have 2 identical cards with and without before you cut down into a "GTX970" with the 1060TI.

And I hope all GP106 cards will be 75W or below to avoid a power connector.

Good points.

There wasn't a 'ton' of value previously in the 680/980 vs. 670/970 equivalents, outside of the 4GB/3.5GB memory debacle. Performance was very similar and custom, highly-overclockable cheaper SKUs could often meet or exceed a stock 980/680/

I believe NV is working to differentiate the 'top-tier' option with GDDRX, and I don't think that's a bad thing at all. It may not be 'big Pascal' but I don't think they would create a specific SKU for that without some tangible bandwidth benefits (think 1440P+).

Should be interesting, regardless of results..

 

[tential]

It's not the gsync tax that's annoying railven though I mean even if I went with Nvidia I know I would pay more as it's the brand with more market presence.

Look at the options on top? There are 50+ freesync options out with more and more coming out. There are 15-20 gsync with very few upcoming.

If Nvidia dropped gsync supported freesync and just said "This now also supports gsync and we've made gsync more affordable!" who cares?

Right now even if I pay the gsync tax I can't get a monitor I'd actually ever use because of how few options I have.

I just don't see how it benefits Nvidia it's one area where amd has a significant advantage.

But with pascal Nvidia is targeting money while amd is targeting mainstream and while the average person doesn't even know about freesync it doesn't hurt Nvidia to screw us with gsync until the market is more competitive

 

[Aristotelian]

Im looking forward to seeing what is under the hood. Also the pricing and performance of these cards. I am looking at the 1070 if the price is right.

One 1070 or two? I'm gunning for 2 1080s, or two flagship AMDs, but time is critical here. I'm on an old, old PC and I'm itching to build a new one as soon as Broadwell-E is out, so whoever hits the ground running first with a flagship faster than the previous generation of cards gets my money.

 

[guskline]

One 1070 or two? I'm gunning for 2 1080s, or two flagship AMDs, but time is critical here. I'm on an old, old PC and I'm itching to build a new one as soon as Broadwell-E is out, so whoever hits the ground running first with a flagship faster than the previous generation of cards gets my money.

I note from your post that you are going to custom cool your new rig. CPU water blocks should be no problem since the socket size remains the same but what about gpu blocks?

Any news on when they will be released or are you just water cooling the cpu?

 

[Genx87]

One 1070 or two? I'm gunning for 2 1080s, or two flagship AMDs, but time is critical here. I'm on an old, old PC and I'm itching to build a new one as soon as Broadwell-E is out, so whoever hits the ground running first with a flagship faster than the previous generation of cards gets my money.

Single, SLI\CF has always been interesting. But its implementation has been bleh. So I would rather spend that money on something else

 

[ShintaiDK]

Start with one GTX1080 and see how it goes

 

[USER8000]

The GP106 is around 200mm2,so Polaris 10 is probably in-between the GP106 and GP104 in size if we take into account the different nodes. The editor on Videocardz said Polaris 11 was probably close to 150mm2 using a rough estimate.

It might be the case,we won't see any GPUs which are direct competitors to each other this year.