NVIDIA Pascal Thread

[Intervenator]

It's almost like people are selectively remembering the past (during which the marketplace and circumstances were completely different, mind you) with nostalgia... :hmm:

 

[antihelten]

What resolution are you using for numbers here? Even at $600, the increase listed seems high.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1080/28.html
1080 over 980Ti (1080) - 36%
1080 over 980Ti (1440) - 43%
1080 over 980Ti (2160) - 43%

What 96Firebird said (MSRP prices), also I used 1440P were possible, but some of the older reviews of TPU used 2048x1536 instead.

Nice analysis. Gives a lot of perspective...

Just for the hell of it, here are the same numbers looking at the sub-flagship cards. I didn't go as far back here, since it gets really messy with regards to which card could be categorized as the sub-flagship during the 7-9000 generations.

970 to 1070: 33% ($380 price point. Assumes that 1070 is 5% faster than a Titan X)
770 to 970: 60%
670 to 770: 14%
570 to 670: 20%
470 to 570: 25%
275 to 470: -12%
260 to 275: 96% (largely due to the large price drop)

Average improvement (geomean): 29%
Average improvement only counting node jumps (geomean): 29%

So basically if the 1070 is 5% faster than a Titan X (Jen Hsung simply said that it was faster during the presentation, no exact numbers given), then it would be slightly above average at the $380 price point and below at the $450 price point (only a 12% improvement at $450, which would be the second worst).

 

[Intervenator]

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[Sweepr]

8+6 pin custom Geforce GTX 1080:

http://videocardz.com/60176/inno3d-presents-new-ichill-cooling-solution-for-geforce-1000-series

 

[Deders]

8+6 pin custom Geforce GTX 1080:

http://videocardz.com/60176/inno3d-presents-new-ichill-cooling-solution-for-geforce-1000-series

There's nothing that says that sketchup is actually an accurate 1080.

I'm also confused as to whether the 4x fan solution is silent or not.

 

[Sweepr]

ASUS teasing laptop dGPU faster than Geforce GTX 980 Ti:

http://rog.asus.com/23312016

Mobile GP104 to be unveiled at Computex?

 

[Qwertilot]

Near certain sometime soon - the profits in that segment are far too juicy to ignore for either NV or the laptop people

 

[ZGR]

I really don't think I want to know the price of the 1080M before I see the benchmarks. Should be an incredible leap in perf/watt however. Will NV ever get Optimus working with SLI? A 1080M SLI notebook with working Optimus should provide solid battery life when not gaming.

 

[ViviTheMage]

soo where can one pre order?

Seems legit?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWI6F08/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

[railven]

soo where can one pre order?

Seems legit?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FWI6F08/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Just realized the 27th leads into a weekend, 3day weekend at that

I might be taking an extended break around 9:50AM... :sneaky:

 

[wingman04]

I really don't think I want to know the price of the 1080M before I see the benchmarks. Should be an incredible leap in perf/watt however. Will NV ever get Optimus working with SLI? A 1080M SLI notebook with working Optimus should provide solid battery life when not gaming.

How many more minutes do you think the 1080m will bring to battery life while gaming? The desktop GTX 980Ti uses 52watts more than the GTX 1080 playing Crysis 3.

How do you imbed a picture in the forums?

 

[antihelten]

How many more minutes do you think the 1080m will bring to battery life while gaming? The desktop GTX 980Ti uses 52watts more than the GTX 1080 playing Crysis 3.

How do you imbed a picture in the forums?

The 980 Ti (GM200) isn't available in mobile form, so the comparison here would have to be the mobile version of the 980 (GM204).

GP104 and GM204 basically use the same amount of power in their desktop version, so they would likely do the same in mobile versions. However GP104 is obviously much more efficient, so for a given level of performance (i.e. if you're using an FPS cap), GP104 should use significantly less power.

So it depends upon whether or not you use the increased efficiency of GP104 to increase performance (higher FPS or settings), or lower power usage. Only in the later case would there be any increase in battery life.

Also the should be an "insert image" button, otherwise the code is

 

[wingman04]

ASUS teasing laptop dGPU faster than Geforce GTX 980 Ti:

http://rog.asus.com/23312016

Mobile GP104 to be unveiled at Computex?

Also the should be an "insert image" button, otherwise the code is

That did not work for inserting a image.

 

[Sweepr]

 

[DooKey]

Titan is looking good there. Also, looks like it might be a late 2016 card since it has GDDR5X. Of course it is chiphell..........

 

[wingman04]

Do you have to do a URL to embed a image on this site or can you embed a JPEG?

 

[jpiniero]

Sooo... $999 for the 1080 Ti and $1599 for the Titan? And 24 GB of memory is just silly.

 

[Arachnotronic]

That GP102 Titan could be about 40%+ faster than the GTX 1080...nice.

 

[Qwertilot]

That's the schedule don't forget

1080ti scheduled for Q2 2016 with ~35% improvement. For the annual top card refresh, with maybe a total rebadge/realignment if AMD compete well.

Titan a little bit more and a few months before that just to try and milk those extra bits of profit from those with a bit more money than sense.

If they do turn out to be holding back HBM2 for Volta I guess it makes sense. Gives Volta an extra boost for starters, but also making really sure that HBM2 is around in enough quantity to support the volumes NV need.

 

[exar333]

So the Titan will continue to just be a more expensive TI version ('Ti Ti') because it will continue to be exactly the same as the Ti, just 10% higher? (no prosumer features, etc.) just more memory? Hmm.

 

[Qwertilot]

Not sure what else they could do with it now they've (if this is true of course!) entirely split the compute/gaming line?

Suppose they could push a P100 derivative as the Titan but then it might well end up slower for gaming than the 1080ti, which would look odd in itself. Very different chip whatever of course. Or scrap the idea but if it worked well for NV with Maxwell then.....

 

[kithylin]

Sooo... $999 for the 1080 Ti and $1599 for the Titan? And 24 GB of memory is just silly.

Considering Jayz2Cents just recently did his GTX 1080 review and showed.. I forget what game, but it's in his youtube video, but the point is his test showed a DirectX-12 game using 9GB of video ram in his Titan X.. just at 1080p. And 4k would use nearly +4x of that. In fact in his test the AMD R9 Fury X was the lowest in the test most likely because of it's 4GB of ram vs the nvidia cards with 8GB and 12GB.

I'm looking forward to 24GB cards.

 

[HeXen]

I noticed 1080's on Ebay are going for over a $1000

 

[kithylin]

I noticed 1080's on Ebay are going for over a $1000

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People were getting $2000 - $2400 for the titan X's when they first released because there was a mad grab and everyone was out of stock for nearly the first 30-45 days.

It's standard market principals: Supply and demand. When demand is high and supply is extremely low, prices go through the roof.

 

[railven]

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. People were getting $2000 - $2400 for the titan X's when they first released because there was a mad grab and everyone was out of stock for nearly the first 30-45 days.

It's standard market principals: Supply and demand. When demand is high and supply is extremely low, prices go through the roof.

Is that true?

I might try to buy two at Microcenter and put one up for auction then. Maybe pay for the other and some change?