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Deders

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With appropriate cooling & close to extreme OC, like 2.1~2.5GHz possibly on water, the power consumption would grow even further. Nvidia cannot control the power FE draws from the system, they can only set the TDP & 8pin for the reference edition.

The super clocked custom cards will guzzle a lot more ~ http://videocardz.com/60325/zotac-geforce-gtx-1080-amp-and-amp-extreme-pictured

If you've overclocked a Nvidia card since Kepler, you'll be familiar with the power limit part of the boost dynamic. You can usually set this from anything between 110% and 125% depending on the card, allowing for more power to be used in the overclock. The max you can set for this is defined in the bios that each manufacturer customises.

If you have a 180W card with a 125% power limit set in overclocking software, you will be able to draw 225W.

If you have a 250w card like the GTX780, it will usually allow for 110% which ends up at 275W, or 25W over stock.

Yes a card will draw as much as it needs, but only up to the point where the manufacturer designates the limit to be, or you edit the bios yourself which can cause instability due to the increasingly complicated nature of GPUBoost.

GPUBoost 3 seems to have opened up some of the bios settings to the user to edit within windows, for instance choosing your own voltages at various clockspeeds.
 

R0H1T

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If you've overclocked a Nvidia card since Kepler, you'll be familiar with the power limit part of the boost dynamic. You can usually set this from anything between 110% and 125% depending on the card, allowing for more power to be used in the overclock. The max you can set for this is defined in the bios that each manufacturer customises.

If you have a 180W card with a 125% power limit set in overclocking software, you will be able to draw 225W.

If you have a 250w card like the GTX780, it will usually allow for 110% which ends up at 275W, or 25W over stock.

Yes a card will draw as much as it needs, but only up to the point where the manufacturer designates the limit to be, or you edit the bios yourself which can cause instability due to the increasingly complicated nature of GPUBoost.

GPUBoost 3 seems to have opened up some of the bios settings to the user to edit within windows, for instance choosing your own voltages at various clockspeeds.
I understand what you're saying but my point is that the maximum power draw cannot be set by Nvidia, even via BIOS, as it largely depends on GPU load, type of application & the (chip) binning level. The OC & power limit, via software or BIOS, only indicates what the max power draw can be. However, ultimately the power usage will depend on the chip's leakage & amount of cooling you've deployed.


 
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Deders

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Interesting that the torture tests for the 980TI's go way above the power limit like AMD cards. are they unlocked power limit wise?

The 970 and 980 are behaving exactly as I described above.
 

AdamK47

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I doubt I'll get any clarification on the SLI HB bridges. I went ahead and ordered an EVGA 3-Way/2-Way V2 LED bridge.
 

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http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52276...locked-acx-3-spotted-looks-awesome/index.html

EVGA's GeForce GTX 1080 Superclocked ACX 3.0 spotted, looks awesome

It looks like it's leakathon for the AIB partner GeForce GTX 1080 cards, with HotHardware reporting that EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Superclocked ACX 3.0 is on its way, and it looks absolutely amazing.





The EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Superclocked ACX 3.0 features the latest ACX 3.0 cooling technology from the company, with dual ball bearing fans, a massive heat sink array, a full length backplate, and some vented accents. All in all, it's shaping up to be the best looking EVGA card yet (at least in my opinion). But what about performance? HotHardware reports that the new GeForce GTX 1080 Superclocked ACX 3.0 was "practically silent - even under load".



The site adds that "temperatures were a non-issue", and while the card was under low the GPU temperature "hovered in the high 70C-80C range". I'm now more excited than ever to get my hands-on this bad boy!


We already covered this card today, but only now we have the full picture. ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1080 is equipped with triple-fan cooling solution. The packaging reveals that card will be factory-overclocked, however the exact specs remain unknown.
ASUS ROG STRIX GTX1080 is also equipped with AURA technology, which should basically allow users to modify the LEDs installed on the cooler shroud, but how will those LEDs be controlled, we don’t know yet. Anyway here’s the card:


http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52271...tx-1080-amp-spotted-record-breaker/index.html




It looks like ZOTAC is preparing to blow us all away once again with their take on NVIDIA's exciting new GeForce GTX 1080 video card. VideoCardz is reporting on the latest leak, teasing the new GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme from ZOTAC.



The ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 video cards will feature IceStorm fans with Carbon ExoArmor, PowerBoost, FREEZE and Spectra technologies. Spectra is new, with it arriving as a lighting system that allows users to change the LED illumination elements on the card, which are the strips along the top, and bottom of the card. The FREEZE tech allows the fans to turn off when the card sits in idle.


The new GTX 1080 AMP! series cards feature a custom backplate, with the PCB being modified completely, allowing for 2 x 8-pin PCIe power connectors. We don't know how much ZOTAC has done under the hood when it comes to clock speeds, but we're excited beyond words to see what ZOTAC can do. The company impressed us greatly with the GTX 980 Ti AMP! Extreme Edition, so I have large expectations of what the GTX 1080 cards will be.





http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52272/asus-rog-strix-gtx-1080-teased-unveiled-very-soon/index.html

ZOTAC has had the curtain peeled back on its upcoming GeForce GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme card, and now it's time for ASUS to tease its new ROG STRIX GTX 1080.



We should expect ASUS to tease it right before Computex 2016 kicks off next week, but we don't know what to expect whatsoever. ASUS never ceases to impress when it comes to its ROG STRIX video cards, but will it be enough to topple what ZOTAC has been pushing out in the last couple of years? As ASUS says 'the future looks bright'.
 
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96Firebird

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When I saw EVGA's ACX 3.0 honeycomb design on the front, I was intrigued thinking they were using a honeycomb heat sink. Sadly, it looks like it is straight fins... :\
 

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Aesthetically that ACX 3.0 looks so good.

I wonder if Zotac's will cool better though.

Aftermarket reviews should be fun to read to see dB ratings and overclocking ability.
 

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Aesthetically that ACX 3.0 looks so good.

I wonder if Zotac's will cool better though.

Aftermarket reviews should be fun to read to see dB ratings and overclocking ability.

Be wary of the aftermarket cards (EVGA SC card shown above) that only have 1 power connector. They're just reference cards (I refuse to use "founders edition") with a better cooler and offer nothing better/new in terms of clocks/performance. It's the ones with 2 or more power connectors everyone needs to be interested in and look towards.
 

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I hope the SSC and FTW get Dual 8-pin PEG connectors... or at least 8+6. Cards looks great though. I will say, my 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ is silent under load as well. The fan speeds tops out around 30-35% and the card will get up to 73c. That's with a stock boost clock of 1400MHz+
 
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Qwertilot

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Be wary of the aftermarket cards (EVGA SC card shown above) that only have 1 power connector. They're just reference cards (I refuse to use "founders edition") with a better cooler and offer nothing better/new in terms of clocks/performance. It's the ones with 2 or more power connectors everyone needs to be interested in and look towards.

That's actually what a fair chunk of the market wants of course All these hugely overclocked things are going to do nasty things to the power efficiency and the silence is very nice to have.
(More people buying 1070's than 1080's perhaps.).
 

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That's actually what a fair chunk of the market wants of course All these hugely overclocked things are going to do nasty things to the power efficiency and the silence is very nice to have.
(More people buying 1070's than 1080's perhaps.).

Actually most aftermarket high-end cards, the benefit of aftermarket coolers is they typically run with high overclocks and are still quiet. That's why everyone wants the overclocked ones. And I know we're not supposed to discuss AMD here but.. a GTX 1080 overclocked to 2400+ mhz will still be quite significantly faster than a Fury X and still come in at less power. And if board partners can engineer good cooling to keep it quiet.. it will be the best of everything.
 

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Sorry for double posting but this is different. I just caught this and not sure if everyone else saw it or not...



EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Edition... there it is folks. Dual 8+8 power connections.
 

MentalIlness

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Sorry for double posting but this is different. I just caught this and not sure if everyone else saw it or not...



EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Edition... there it is folks. Dual 8+8 power connections.
:thumbsup:

Must........work........more.........overtime !
 

kithylin

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any idea when these aftermarket boards might be available?

After computex 2016 completes. So 1st or 2nd week in june. Although possibly the first couple weeks of July. No one knows yet.

All the companies have to go show off their shiny new toys at Computex first, then they come for sale. That's generally how it works.
 

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I actually prefer reference coolers and stock speeds, mostly to exhaust the heat directly out, I don't care much about OC'ing. Despite it, I still doubt I'll be able to find any stock with a founder's edition anytime real soon.
 

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I actually prefer reference coolers and stock speeds, mostly to exhaust the heat directly out, I don't care much about OC'ing. Despite it, I still doubt I'll be able to find any stock with a founder's edition anytime real soon.

Well considering the reference cards at stock speeds have quite a number of issues.. #1 being they thermal throttle terribly and can't boost when gaming, and in some times even down-clock below base clock and can not sustain the speed they're rated for (this is documented).

That and with the speeds they ultimately do end up running at, they're barely any faster than a aftermarket factory-overclocked 980ti / Titan X.. like only +3% to +5% better. (this is also documented).

It's really unwise to spend that kind of money on the reference cards for any reason this time around.

We can also see over here:


The EVGA SC card (The one with the single power connector, which is essentially just the reference card with a better cooler on it) manages to not thermal-throttle at all, and maintains boost clocks solidly through gaming and even manages to boost +127 mhz over the rated reference boost clock. All on it's own with no human intervention. Purely due to a much, much better cooling solution fitted to it.

Any computer you're using a GTX 1080 in should already have more than adequate airflow through the chassis to easily exhaust what ever air it may dump into the case.

If you don't have a well-ventilated chassis already... then you shouldn't be considering buying any gtx 1080 in the first place.

The higher mid-range cards don't belong in poor-airflow cases in general. That's what they make the lower-bin cards for.
 
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Well considering the reference cards at stock speeds have quite a number of issues.. #1 being they thermal throttle terribly and can't boost when gaming, and in some times even down-clock below base clock and can not sustain the speed they're rated for (this is documented).

That and with the speeds they ultimately do end up running at, they're barely any faster than a aftermarket factory-overclocked 980ti / Titan X.. like only +3% to +5% better. (this is also documented).

It's really unwise to spend that kind of money on the reference cards for any reason this time around.

We can also see over here:


The EVGA SC card (The one with the single power connector, which is essentially just the reference card with a better cooler on it) manages to not thermal-throttle at all, and maintains boost clocks solidly through gaming and even manages to boost +127 mhz over the rated reference boost clock. All on it's own with no human intervention. Purely due to a much, much better cooling solution fitted to it.

Any computer you're using a GTX 1080 in should already have more than adequate airflow through the chassis to easily exhaust what ever air it may dump into the case.

If you don't have a well-ventilated chassis already... then you shouldn't be considering buying any gtx 1080 in the first place.

The higher mid-range cards don't belong in poor-airflow cases in general. That's what they make the lower-bin cards for.
This^^^ Also I have my side cover off and my EVGA GTX 970 does great 1418MHz boost while playing crisis 3.
 

HeXen

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It's funny that Newegg went from email notification to out of stock within minutes...and never an email notification. wtf was that? I guess they didn't get any stock so switched it or did they really sell out so quick that they didn't bother to email? I assume they just altered it to say out of stock before they actually went on sale.
 

kithylin

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Geforce GTX 1080 goes on sale 6:00 AM PDT, here's a recap from NVIDIA:

EVGA GeForce GTX1080 SC ACX 3.0 Gaming:
Base Clock: 1,708 MHz vs 1,607 Mhz Stock Base Clock
Boost Clock: 1847 MHz vs 1,733 MHz Stock Boost Clock

www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX62547


Custom model from ASUS will feature 8+6 pin, launching June 10th.

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX62546

Here's the one everyone will want. The EVGA GTX 1080 FTW Edition, which we know will have dual-8-pin PCIE power plugs.

Currently going for $919.99 CAD, which is $708.19 USD at current exchange rates.

No idea on specs yet.. It's all "TBA" for base and boost clocks. But at least we have pricing!
 
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