nVidia please slash those prices thanks to AMD.

[tweakboy]

Props to AMD on making nvidia slash their prices of video cards.

The 6xxx just came out, my feeling is in two months they say a GTX 580 will appear before next year. If that is true that will slash down 4xx prices even more.

Heres my question

tweakboy will soon upgrade to a GTX 460 1GB

my question is a 460 and a 470 are soo close in price; is it worth the extra 30 or 40 dollars to get a 470. Also what is the power requirment of a 470,

I really like how much power the 460 takes unlike the mamooth 480 which takes 335watts to operate.

I think I should wait more, Fry's already had cut down prices. You can get a 460 for 180 dollars after rebate,, avg price was 200 dollars to 240 dollars I saw a 470 for like 240 I believe.

After this upgrade Im not going to upgrdae video card for another 3 years.
I will use my 8800GT as phsyx card and the 460 or 470 as primary video card.
I want to get EVGA 460GTX superclocked 1GB or if you all think its worth it to buy a 470 instead. Thanks in advance..

 

[VirtualLarry]

I would buy an EVGA with lifetime warranty if you plan on keeping your GPU for a long time, regardless if it comes factory overclocked. You can overclock your 460 easily enough yourself.

 

[tyl998]

Why not go with 2 460s? Or get one now and get another one later? Combined they blow away even the 480 in performance.

 

[Grooveriding]

With the price so close I would get the EVGA 470 and overclock it as far as you can :thumbsup:

 

[tweakboy]

Thanks all for your replies. Soo Grooveriding you say I go with 470 since prices are close.

As for SLI I can only do AMD crossfire on my board. Soo ya I will keep the 8800GT and use it as phsyx.

Soo Ill get the EVGA GTX 470 superclocked 1GB .... Im gonna do some research on pricing. thanks for now

 

[RussianSensation]

Soo Ill get the EVGA GTX 470 superclocked 1GB .... Im gonna do some research on pricing. thanks for now

The EVGA GTX460 FTW is the better value card. EVGA GTX470 superoverclocked is a joke of an overclock. The 460 is quieter, cooler and is actually faster than the 470 when clocked to 850mhz. So there is little reason to get the 470 at this point.

 

[lavaheadache]

The EVGA GTX460 FTW is the better value card. EVGA GTX470 superoverclocked is a joke of an overclock. The 460 is quieter, cooler and is actually faster than the 470 when clocked to 850mhz. So there is little reason to get the 470 at this point.

Don't get me wrong here cause i agree that the 460 is a good buy but people seem to forget that the 470 overclocks quite well too.

 

[tweakboy]

Yes Ill listen to you Lavaheadace. Soo its worth the extra 40 or 50 dollars more then the 460..

And just quick question, How many watts does the 470 require if the 480 is 335watts.. Thanks in advance

 

[Ares1214]

Not even considering AMD? The 6850 is a better buy than the 460, even more so if you Xfire it vs SLI. Or just wait for 6970, that will last long. Maybe 580 if you have the willingness.

 

[Arkadrel]

Yes Ill listen to you Lavaheadace. Soo its worth the extra 40 or 50 dollars more then the 460..

And just quick question, How many watts does the 470 require if the 480 is 335watts.. Thanks in advance

6870 = 470 performance = 151w load, 19w idle.
6850 > 460 performance = 127w load, 19w idle.

470 = 6870 performance = 232w load, 29w idle.
460 < 6850 performance = 155w load, 15w idle.

this is at stock core/mem ect... oc versions might use more.

 

[sandorski]

This is like a Repost squared. Buy the card, then start a Thread on pleased you are? Just a suggestion.

 

[toyota]

The EVGA GTX460 FTW is the better value card. EVGA GTX470 superoverclocked is a joke of an overclock. The 460 is quieter, cooler and is actually faster than the 470 when clocked to 850mhz. So there is little reason to get the 470 at this point.

at 850 it still loses to the 470 more than it wins. I am sure you could find numbers to back that up but I can also find numbers that say the opposite. now at 850 it is close enough in most cases to make the noisy hot running 470 not be an option.

tweakboy, just get the gtx460 and oc it.

 

[JimmiG]

The GTX470 is quite a bit faster than the GTX460. Factory overclocked GTX460 cards can be as fast as a GTX470 at stock, but then the GTX470 can be overclocked too.

One reason to pick a 460 over a 470 is power consumption. That's why I picked a GTX460.. I wasn't sure my 450W PSU would handle a 470, and upgrading the PSU would have added significantly to the cost of the upgrade. Your PSU is more than enough.

But back when I was upgrading, the choice was between a GTX460 or a 5830.. now with the 6850 and 6870, things have changed.

 

[tweakboy]

Wow thanks for all the info.

Wow Arkedel thank you soo much.

155watts for the 460 sounds better for me then a 235watt 470.

I can just OC the clocks to 470 speed and beyond right ?

 

[Ares1214]

Once again, no consideration of AMD, as in the 6850 that is better than the 460...?

 

[toyota]

Wow thanks for all the info.

Wow Arkedel thank you soo much.

155watts for the 460 sounds better for me then a 235watt 470.

I can just OC the clocks to 470 speed and beyond right ?

you would have to have it at 900 to beat the 470 across the board and at that speed it will consume MORE power than a gtx470.

 

[MichaelD]

I also can only do CF on my MB. I was planning on getting dual 6850s, but I was worried about CF bugs in first-gen cards. <--my own paranoia, no info to base it on
Looking at the reviews, a single 6850 is a nice card but can't do the FPS at 19x12 that I want. A single 6870 can (for the most part), and draws little power compared to some NV cards but still wasn't what I needed. I was sad.

Until this past weekend when NV dropped prices on GTX470 through the floor (relatively speaking). A GTX470 for $260? They are out there. A really nice (upgraded PCB/Japanese caps/first tier memory) 470 with a "free" Mafia2 download for just $25 more? (the game sells for $50 ATM) That would be this card, the one I bought. The Gigabyte UDV GTX470 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125321

At $350-ish, I wouldn't touch a GTX470. But at $260-$280? Oh yeah.

Depending on how things look (I'm used to a HD4870X2) I may see what kind of an OC I can get out of the card.

So yes; thank you AMD for releasing very nice cards at a good pricepoint and driving NVidia's prices down!

 

[Burpy]

If you plan on keeping the card for 3 years, be aware the eVGA FTW 850 core only has a 2 year warranty.
eVGA has two model numbers you should be aware of, AR (Lifetime) & TR (2 Years).

 

[tijag]

Wow thanks for all the info.

Wow Arkedel thank you soo much.

155watts for the 460 sounds better for me then a 235watt 470.

I can just OC the clocks to 470 speed and beyond right ?

Really? If you overclock you will use more energy. Don't buy a 460 because it has better power efficiency and then OC it. You'll be defeating your purpose.

 

[Grooveriding]

I recommended the 470 because I've seen you post before that your monitor supports some really high resolutions. The 470 will be better than a 460 for that.

You can also just get a vanilla 470 and overclock. I have no idea what the usual overclock is, I'm guessing you'd get around 100 on the core and something on the memory ? My cards can do a 100mhz overclock with no additional voltage, I assumed the 470 is around the same.

Someone in this thread have experience overclocking a 470 ?

Never seen comparisons but I think a 470 with 100core overclock is going to be faster than any 460, short of one up to around 1000 on the core.

 

[tweakboy]

Thank you Grooveriding you sold me. Im gonna get the 470 also thanks Burpy for the crucial information about warranty.. Ill need a AR lifetime.

Ok soo EVGA 470 it is.

Should I buy superclocked or that is bs I can just clock it myself. Or willa superclocked version OC more. Also these are dual slot cards right ? thanks again

 

[tweakboy]

Also as far as going the RED way and doing crossfire like suggested is something I will not do. After my x800XT PE and Catalyst driver problems left and right I completly gave up on ATI/AMD their drivers are thick and resource hog and just buggy. Their hardware is fantastic its the drivers that scare me and lure me away from them and go the Green way nVidia.... I think 8800GT as phsyx card and 470 as primary card will do justice I want to wait until the supposed 580 is released so the price of the 470 will slash to 200 or below not 260 bucks like it is now.

 

[Vesku]

That's a long time to hold a driver grudge. But I can understand the sentiment, my Geforce GT 220 goes clock crazy every other driver update. I'd also agree with GTX 470 if your power supply can handle it, considering you want the card to last you 3+ years.

 

[faxon]

Just as a reminder, frys does not carry a single evga card with a lifetime warranty unless said card is only available with the lifetime warranty. All our 460s from evga are TR revisions with 2 year warranty

 

[MichaelD]

Warranty? I've had both NV and ATI (Green and Red? Is that what they're calling them these days?) fail on me. It's all about how the card was constructed and the quality of the parts it was assembled with. IOW: HEAT.

You could have five, 120mm case fans pushing 150CFM each. But if the heatsink on the card itself is not properly seated, or it doesn't have enough TIM, or if the fan dies, or, or, or..\ You get my point. It's gonna die eventually. If it doesn't die, either your next monitor will have too many native pixels for it to support or they'll invent 32xAF/32AA with 24xAF/24AA as the minimum standard the newest drivers will support.

You see what I'm getting at? I'm THERE NOW MAN. I had a 4:3, 19" monitor when my 7900GTO was released. It kicked butt with games back then at that res. Now with a 24", 19x12 monitor it can't do 10FPS in any game with any AF/AA turned on. That's the epitome of sadness.

Get the card that fits YOUR SITUATION with YOUR EQUIPMENT, now and don't worry about tomorrow b/c tomorrow your card, games and equipment will be old-school-obsolete. If there's more than one card that fits the bill (I ran into this situation two days ago when trying to decide which card to buy), buy the one that does what you want it to with the games/programs that you're currently using. I.E. certain games are NV-biased, others ATI-biased. That's the way it is. Of course a powerful card will run any game at modern resolutions with AA/AF turned on, at decent framerates. It's all about money in the end. Performance ain't cheap.