Nvidia Q1 Financial Results

Lonyo

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How did it prove him wrong, exactly?
Charlie indicates a decrease in margins, there were decreased margins.
 

3DVagabond

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Just posted this in another thread. Maybe it's better here. Link

  • GAAP Quarterly Financial Comparison (in millions except per share data)
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    Q1 FY13 Q4 FY12 Q/Q
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    Revenue $924.9 $953.2 down 3%
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    Gross margin 50.1% 51.4% down 1.3 p.p.
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    Operating expenses $390.5 $367.7 up 6.2%
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    Net income $60.4 $116.0 down 47.9%
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    Earnings per share $0.10 $0.19 down 47.4%
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    Non-GAAP Quarterly Financial Comparison* (in millions except per share data)
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    Q1 FY13 Q4 FY12 Q/Q
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    Revenue $924.9 $953.2 down 3%
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    Gross margin 50.4% 52.5% down 2.1 p.p
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    Operating expenses $348.0 $325.2 up 7%
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    Net income $97.5 $158.1 down 38.3%
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    Earnings per share $0.16 $0.26 down 38.5%
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Except for operating expenses everything is down from 4th qtr last year to 1st qtr this year,
 
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exar333

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How did it prove him wrong, exactly?
Charlie indicates a decrease in margins, there were decreased margins.

Charlie is an idiot, but we was right (just as he equally wrong LOL) about the margin comment. That said, 52% margin to 50% margin is not a bad drop; either is the revenue decrease. With Kepler finally being available now in more quantities, and with 660/650 on the way in likely Q2-Q3, their outlook looks pretty solid this year.

I don't know how their professional (Quadro/Tesla) outlooks are though. Fluctuations in these markets can have large affects in revenue and profitability.
 

sontin

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How can he be right when nVidia announced a decrease in their projection for Q1 2013?

He was wrong. nVidia said that their margin was negativ affected by the lack of GK104 chips:
Our GAAP and non‐GAAP gross margins were negatively impacted in the first quarter as a result of the lack of 28nm supply for our new Kepler generation GPU products. With limited supply of our new highend Kepler generation GPU in desktop, mix shifted to our mainstream business, particularly to our OEM customers. The result was a higher mix of mainstream GPU product sales and a decrease to our gross margins, as compared with the prior quarter.
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MTQwMDI0fENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1
 

exar333

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LOL, just a week ago he was stating the 'sky was falling' and NV was unable to prodyce anything on 28nm. Lo and behold, here we have the 670 this week in pretty large quantities. He is a shill for money, that's all. Unfortunately guys like him dominate discussions at all.
 
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"Net income $60.4 $116.0 down 47.9%
Earnings per share $0.10 $0.19 down 47.4%"

Margins take into account the entire business with its Quadro and Tesla lineup generating the bulk of margins. It's not hard to inflate this stat when a $100 card sells for $1000 etc.

The net income is down a LOT. TSMC low production and/or yield issues combined have really put the hurt on NV's ability to make heaps of $$. But overall revenue has drop a tiny bit, because as expected, enthusiasts gaming GPUs form a very small % of overall revenue since its a niche market. It's the low-end stuff and HPC that earns NV big money.
 

Ferzerp

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I don't like quarter over quarter comparisons for businesses that have cyclic demand. A Q1FY13 to Q1FY12 would be a better comparison in my opinion.

I'm in a business that you would expect to have relatively flat demand year round, and even our numbers aren't really directly comparable quarter over quarter. Actually, the quarters that intuitively we would expect more demand are the ones that we actually see worse numbers in my company's case.
 

blackened23

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GTX 670 is a damn impressive card and these financial results look pretty good. This financial report should definitely increase my bf3 fps as well.
 
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GTX 670 is a damn impressive card and these financial results look pretty good.

If you think these figures look "good", NV certainly don't even want to be a situation where you would consider the figures "okay" (not even "bad", that would be catastrophic!).
 

blackened23

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If you think these figures look "good", NV certainly don't even want to be a situation where you would consider the figures "okay" (not even "bad", that would be catastrophic!).

I definitely expect to gain 2% more fps from this news, not sure what you're talking about.
 

Grooveriding

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GTX 670 is a damn impressive card and these financial results look pretty good. This financial report should definitely increase my bf3 fps as well.

:awe:

I'm already seeing increased gpu physx performance due to these earnings results. Bring on the next quarter's results I say!
 

Olikan

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I don't like quarter over quarter comparisons for businesses that have cyclic demand. A Q1FY13 to Q1FY12 would be a better comparison in my opinion.

q1 2012: ( or 2011 for normal ppl )
Revenue for the first quarter was $962 million, up 8.5% sequentially. GAAP gross margin of 50.4% was a record for the third consecutive quarter. Gross margin exceeded our expectations we had at the beginning of the quarter, primarily as a result of richer product mix within our GPU systems. GAAP OpEx was $329.6 million, in line with our estimates. Combined, these results generated a GAAP net income of $135.2 million or $0.22 per diluted share.

yep, very big drop
 

RussianSensation

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I don't like quarter over quarter comparisons for businesses that have cyclic demand. A Q1FY13 to Q1FY12 would be a better comparison in my opinion.

For this type of business, I agree.

Except for operating expenses everything is down from 4th qtr last year to 1st qtr this year,

In consumer technology you generally don't compare Q4 to Q1. That makes little sense since consumer tech is a cyclical business (ie., consumers buy a lot of things for Xmas holidays, etc. Try comparing the number of iPhone 4S sales for Apple in Q4 2011 and Q1 2012 and see.)

You realize Wallstreet was forecasting earnings of $0.10 per share and NV delivered $0.10 per share. However, stripping out items like acquisition-related costs, earnings totaled $0.16 cents a share.

If Charlie was right that NV is doomed, has unmanageable/'unmanufacturable' 28nm product line, then Q2 guidance would have been lowered because NV would not be able to meet its customer orders. The opposite happened though:

"For the current quarter, the company forecast revenue of $990 million to $1.05 billion, easily topping the $976 million currently expected by analysts polled by Thomson Reuters. Gross margin narrowed to 50.1% from 50.4%."
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120511-709288.html

NV is extremely strong on fundamentals. Company had total cash at hand $3.13 billion, 4.20 as current ratio and on the other side the debt to equity ratio was 0.01 and long-term debt to equity ratio also remained 0.01. It also had a book value per share as $6.77 in the most recent quarter. (In summary what this means it has plenty of cash to pay off its short term obligations (wages, salaries, admin, etc.) and has hardly any long-term debt which normally carries an interest burden - just ask AMD).

That book value # means nothing to the non-finance guys, so here is a better explanation:

“The market is not assigning any value to Tegra, in our view,” writes Shah, “considering $5 in net cash, Intel royalties ($1.00) and a graphics business that is conservatively worth $7-8 per share.” - Nomura

A number of other professional research firms have also recently commented on NVDA.

o Analysts at Needham & Company reiterated a “buy” rating on shares of NVIDIA in a research note to investors on Wednesday, April 11st.

o Separately, analysts at RBC Capital (NYSE: RY) initiated coverage on shares of NVIDIA in a research note to investors on Wednesday, April 11st. They set an “outperform” rating on the stock.

o Finally, analysts at Cantor Fitzgerald initiated coverage on shares of NVIDIA in a research note to investors on Wednesday, April 4th. They set a “buy” rating and a $20.00 price target on the stock.

NV has strong growth potential because of Tegra as well. It hasn't materialized yet in strong numbers but it takes time to develop a competitive mobile chip for tablets/smartphones. HTC One X for international markets reviewed here at AnandTech is a strong win among top tier headphone providers.

Obviously hardly any of this has an impact on GTX680/690 or 660Ti availability for us, but the constant bashing of NV by Charlie is unwarranted since it actually doesn't align with reality. Sure, for high-end desktop discrete market, AMD has done very well but as Grooveriding found earlier the market for >$300 GPUs is just 3-4% of the pie.

But you know NV also plans to sell C3000 Tesla (aka GTX690) for $3k+

"Chief Executive Jen-Hsen Huang also told investors to "look for exciting news" at an upcoming technology conference." May 15th.

Now if only GK110 was released. :thumbsup:
 
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KompuKare

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Strong numbers, does this mean they can afford to make a gesture to anyone who was stung by a bad 8800GT or nForce 7150 or was left out of their defect chip settlement?
 

Jaydip

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I think we really need a GPU finance sub forum for all our financial analysts.I would keep a safe distance from that sub forum for eternity
 

RussianSensation

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I think we really need a GPU finance sub forum for all our financial analysts.I would keep a safe distance from that sub forum for eternity

True. This really has almost no effect on gamers, unless NV or AMD were on the verge of bankruptcy or something. As long as they keep pumping out great products for us, all these financial (boring) #s are meaningless for gamers.

The main takeaway for me, if any, is that Charlie's assessment is often very good from a GPU technical point of view (i.e., he called Kepler as very efficient, fast; he called Cypress as a very good GPU but Fermi hot and poorly balanced, etc.; he indicated NV has shortages of GTX680/690, etc.). All of those things turned out to be true. However, I would not apply those specifics as to how the company is actually doing overall because it doesn't just sell GTX680s.

So basically, as long as people pay attention to his GPU rumors from semi-conductor technical side, not financial side of things, it has some useful bits.
 

blastingcap

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True. This really has almost no effect on gamers, unless NV or AMD were on the verge of bankruptcy or something. As long as they keep pumping out great products for us, all these financial (boring) #s are meaningless for gamers.

The main takeaway for me, if any, is that Charlie's assessment is often very good from a GPU technical point of view (i.e., he called Kepler as very efficient, fast; he called Cypress as a very good GPU but Fermi hot and poorly balanced, etc.; he indicated NV has shortages of GTX680/690, etc.). All of those things turned out to be true. However, I would not apply those specifics as to how the company is actually doing overall because it doesn't just sell GTX680s.

So basically, as long as people pay attention to his GPU rumors from semi-conductor technical side, not financial side of things, it has some useful bits.

Charlie also had some incomprehensible, self-contradictory crap about how Kepler was fast only because of PhysX.

Probably one of the most useful anti-NV diatribes of his was bumpgate, which ended up being very real and very expensive for NV to settle out of court.
 

Jaydip

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True. This really has almost no effect on gamers, unless NV or AMD were on the verge of bankruptcy or something. As long as they keep pumping out great products for us, all these financial (boring) #s are meaningless for gamers.

The main takeaway for me, if any, is that Charlie's assessment is often very good from a GPU technical point of view (i.e., he called Kepler as very efficient, fast; he called Cypress as a very good GPU but Fermi hot and poorly balanced, etc.; he indicated NV has shortages of GTX680/690, etc.). All of those things turned out to be true. However, I would not apply those specifics as to how the company is actually doing overall because it doesn't just sell GTX680s.

So basically, as long as people pay attention to his GPU rumors from semi-conductor technical side, not financial side of things, it has some useful bits.
I agree but i really don't understand all these terminology very much.I skipped most of the "finance and business accounting" classes during engineering May be a refresher course is in order
 

Jaydip

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Regarding charlie if u spread loads of BS over and over again u ought to be correct sometime right?
 
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