The company's net income rose to $542 million, or 83 cents per share, in the third quarter ended Oct. 30 from $246 million, or 44 cents per share, a year earlier.
But those nodes keep getting more expensive I thought. That's why mid rangers cost more than a high end should. 1080 should be under $400 and its $7-800. That's a lot of profit.
You really believe a GTX 1080 is midrange? Terms like midrange, high end etcetera are completely relative and can be subjective. What really determines pricing bracket is the relevant performance of a GPU..
For example, a GTX 780 Ti was a "high end card" a few years ago.. What is it now? Midrange at best, when you look at the performance. Same thing with a GTX 1080. A GTX 1080 to me is considered a high end card today because of its relevant performance, and NVidia's pricing reflects this. It cannot be considered a midrange product..
But a year or two from now when Volta lands, it will be considered midrange..
It's an upper midrange card or the definition of midrange if you include the compute-only DGX-1 Pascal gpu .
GP107 -> GP106 -> GP104 -> GP102 -> GP100
That's literally in the middle. 2 above it, 2 below it. I don't know what other word you can possibly use to describe that other than "Middle"
But AMD is up AM O_O.NVIDIA grew its gaming dGPU significantly and based on current guidance from both AMD and NVIDIA, that share gain will continue next quarter.
Exactly. Just because people don't think it offers as much performance as it should or that more powerful cards will be out later, or that they think it is too expensive, or simply that they refuse to acknowledge it because their favorite company has no competitor, the 1080 is the high end card right now simply because except for the niche Titan, it is the highest performing card available.You're looking purely at nomenclature, which makes no sense for reasons that I mentioned earlier. When you focus on nomenclature, you get inconsistencies and ironies like high end Kepler GPUs such as the GTX 780 Ti and Kepler Titan being inferior to new "midrange" cards like the GTX 1060..
High end, midrange, low end are all relative terms. The only absolute metric is performance, and that is what ultimately determines the pricing of a GPU.
As such, the GTX 1080 provides the foundation of NVidia's high end performance bracket. The GTX 1070 is an entry level high end card, whilst the GTX 1080 is the high end card. The Titan XP and the upcoming GTX 1080 Ti are ultra high end cards..
NVidia has segmented its high end bracket for a long time now to exploit performance driven consumers that will pony up a lot more money for their GPUs than anyone else..
They created the super high end with the Kepler Titan black a long time ago.Nvidia's insane profits tell the entire story. They quite simply created a super high end category, renamed products with high end sounding names and doubled the cost of the cards quite literally.
The milk tastes so sweet when you go from $129 GTS450/$149 GTX550 series to $249-299 1060, from $199-249 560/560Ti to $379-699 1070/1080. The usuals still are ignorant to NV GPU history using flawed arguments of comparing different generation flagship 780Ti to 2 generations newer 1060 in some twisted argument to justify how GP104 is not mid-range. If NV released GTX460/560/560Ti first and purposely held back GTX470/480/570/580, those GF1x4 cards would have been flagships/high end? What a joke of an argument. NV brand marketing BS at its finest.
By definition, the flagship GPU in a generation is the largest die and the fastest series of that generation. But NV knows a huge chunk of its customer base is blind and brand biased so why sell the flagship Kepler 780Ti, Maxwell 980Ti and Pascal 1080Ti when you can milk them 2-3 times in the sam generation with brilliant marketing (680->780->780Ti, then 980->980Ti, then 1080->1080Ti/2080Ti, etc.)
What used to be $350 GTX570 straight up became $1200 Titan X ePeen with double the VRAM of the "respective equivalent" 570 chip series. If NV launches 3328 CC 1080Ti for $699-799, this would be akin to releasing $289 560Ti 448 core.
Anyone who thinks NV didn't simply manipulate marketing names by changing GTX660/660Ti into 670/680 and kept going is delusional. Meh, thanks to mining I am chilling with multiple Polaris, Hawaii and Pascal cards. Oh, that sweet free milk, one day you will end but not before NV launches GP102 -- THE real Pascal flagship. I guess the loyalists who dropped $700 on mid-range 1080 can't handle the truth. It must be emotionally painful to admit one dropped $700 on an upper-mid-range videocard. Miners don't care for marketing BS since we got our cards for free.
Can't wait to see $139 GTX1050Ti turd outselling the far superior $165-169 RX 470 by magnitudes of times, further proving that brand and millions of dollars prevails above superior products. DongleBook Pro and Beats say hello to NV.
The milk tastes so sweet when you go from $129 GTS450/$149 GTX550 series to $249-299 1060, from $199-249 560/560Ti to $379-699 1070/1080. The usuals still are ignorant to NV GPU history using flawed arguments of comparing different generation flagship 780Ti to 2 generations newer 1060 in some twisted argument to justify how GP104 is not mid-range. If NV released GTX460/560/560Ti first and purposely held back GTX470/480/570/580, those GF1x4 cards would have been flagships/high end? What a joke of an argument. NV brand marketing BS at its finest.
By definition, the flagship GPU in a generation is the largest die and the fastest series of that generation. But NV knows a huge chunk of its customer base is blind and brand biased so why sell the flagship Kepler 780Ti, Maxwell 980Ti and Pascal 1080Ti when you can milk them 2-3 times in the sam generation with brilliant marketing (680->780->780Ti, then 980->980Ti, then 1080->1080Ti/2080Ti, etc.)
What used to be $350 GTX570 straight up became $1200 Titan X ePeen with double the VRAM of the "respective equivalent" 570 chip series. If NV launches 3328 CC 1080Ti for $699-799, this would be akin to releasing $289 560Ti 448 core.
Anyone who thinks NV didn't simply manipulate marketing names by changing GTX660/660Ti into 670/680 and kept going is delusional. Meh, thanks to mining I am chilling with multiple Polaris, Hawaii and Pascal cards. Oh, that sweet free milk, one day you will end but not before NV launches GP102 -- THE real Pascal flagship. I guess the loyalists who dropped $700 on mid-range 1080 can't handle the truth. It must be emotionally painful to admit one dropped $700 on an upper-mid-range videocard. Miners don't care for marketing BS since we got our cards for free.
Can't wait to see $139 GTX1050Ti turd outselling the far superior $165-169 RX 470 by magnitudes of times, further proving that brand and millions of dollars prevails above superior products. DongleBook Pro and Beats say hello to NV.
Just imagine how bad it's going to get when and if AMD goes under. And gamers will think the low tier gpu they buy for high gpu prices is the best thing since sliced bread as they'll no longer have a competitor to compare it to.Pascal experiment worked. Oh boy for next launch.
But those nodes keep getting more expensive I thought. That's why mid rangers cost more than a high end should. 1080 should be under $400 and its $7-800. That's a lot of profit.
Foundry customers with deep pockets can afford to make the migration to finFETs, but it will cost more money—up to three times what it costs to design and develop a 28nm planar device. Many other foundry customers can’t afford these costs and will be forced to stay at the 28nm node and above—at least for now.
If that’s not enough, there is also a sizable jump in manufacturing costs. In a typical 11-metal level process, there are 52 mask steps at 28nm. With an 80% fab utilization rate at 28nm, the loaded manufacturing cost is about $3,500 per 300mm wafer, according to Gartner.
At 1.3 days per lithography layer, the cycle time for a 28nm chip is about 68 days. “Add one week minimum for package testing,” Wang said. “So, the total is two-and-half months from wafer start to chip delivery.”
At 16nm/14nm, there are 66 mask steps. With an 80% fab utilization rate at 16nm/14nm, the loaded cost is about $4,800 per 300mm wafer, according to Gartner. “It takes three months from wafer start to chip delivery,” he added.
From GlobalFoundries’ perspective, Moore’s Law — which has allowed chip designers to double density while lowering transistor cost — no longer applies. Instead, “at a finer node we are getting higher performance at higher cost,” Teepe said.
Haha can't wait to see the the prices for the next generation of GPUs.
The milk tastes so sweet when you go from $129 GTS450/$149 GTX550 series to $249-299 1060, from $199-249 560/560Ti to $379-699 1070/1080. The usuals still are ignorant to NV GPU history using flawed arguments of comparing different generation flagship 780Ti to 2 generations newer 1060 in some twisted argument to justify how GP104 is not mid-range.