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happy medium

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OP, pretty sure incorrect title: "Reviews and prices Monday August 20."

Monday will be announcement day when we will learn the actual release dates. Reviews will only be on release dates.

Reviewers have cards as we speak, and have been testing them for the last few days or so. Expect a hard launch within a week or so.
Im sure we will have plenty of sites leaking benchmarks real soon.
No worries thread titles can be changed.
 

DeathReborn

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Any specs on the GT106? Is it likely to be 2060 = 1280 Cores and full chip being 1536 (room for a Ti)?
 

happy medium

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Any specs on the GT106? Is it likely to be 2060 = 1280 Cores and full chip being 1536 (room for a Ti)?

Nvidia leaves holes in their lineup for the competition to plug and then they release cards like the 1070ti and adjust prices to beat the competition.
This is nothing new.
 

happy medium

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Any specs on the GT106? Is it likely to be 2060 = 1280 Cores and full chip being 1536 (room for a Ti)?
About the 2060 and 2070........this sucks if true.

I read that the 2070 was releasing in September.

Actual launch of hardware.
2080, 2080ti end of August .
2070 late September
2060 late October.


NVIDIA’s GeForce RTX 2070 and 2060 Will Hit The Shelves By End Of October/Early November

https://wccftech.com/nvidias-geforc...the-shelves-by-end-of-october-early-november/
 

amenx

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Reviewers have cards as we speak, and have been testing them for the last few days or so. Expect a hard launch within a week or so.
Im sure we will have plenty of sites leaking benchmarks real soon.
No worries thread titles can be changed.
Links to any such rumors?
 
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MBrown

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I will be going from a 980ti to a 2080ti probably around March. Hopefully the prices don't get inflated.
 

moonbogg

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Gonna be a nice morning tomorrow. Nice cup o coffee and some good reviews. Nothing better.
 

sze5003

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I hope we get reviews tomorrow but they probably would come later. I just need to know the percentage difference between the new Ti and mine. Would definitely like to change it out if it's substantially better.
 

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In terms of speculation of the TDP relative to the speculated performance gains the one simpler speculation (lots of that) that I haven't really seen mentioned is that regarding the RT and Tensor cores. Consider the following situations -

The RT and Tensor cores have negligible power usage when operating, this seems rather unlikely.

Assuming the RT and Tensor cores have significant power usage then that would be factored into the TDP. So we either have a scenario in which
1) RT and Tensor cores have some effect in current games and therefore the performance increase is higher than the SM count increase (regardless of other improvements there) indicates meaning a higher perf/TDP gain.
or
2) RT and Tensor cores consume negligible power in those work loads.

If it is scenario #2 above this means there is either a situation in that it will consume much less power in real usage without ray tracing than the new TDP figure indicates or the silicon has enough headroom leverage that and auto-clock much higher than the released figures when not using the RT/Tensor cores.

As for mining this could also mean that perf/w in that work load could be much higher than what the numbers are indicating.
 
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beginner99

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I'm two generations behind and the idea of a card 26% faster than a 1060 at near the price point I paid for my 970 four years ago is not the least bit exciting IMO. That would be about a 50% bump in performance, which is a far cry from the 120% bump in performance the 970 offered at launch over the then four year old 570 that launched at the same price.

The thought of the 70 series potentially going from high end to midrange to low end in seven years is sickening.

This is what happens when there is no competition. We can only hope Raja at intel can actually deliver which is somewhat doubtful given his track record at AMD (it went downhill from the moment he joined...) and intels own track record with GPUs.

I'm simply avoiding the market right now as this was to be expected and hence the real winners are people with 1080p displays as there is little need to upgrade anyway. and you save even more by only buying old games on steam sales.
 
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sao123

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I have hard time believing its happening either... and only will when i finally see it tomorrow... but 20 years? Thats some history revisionism out there... the big die has been first to be released up until gtx 500 series... which was released in 2011 and not 20 years ago.

you sir are confused... Big die first has never happened since Tesla 1.0 generation.

The GF110 released as the GTX580 in Nov of 2010, very easily could have simply been the GTX480ti... it wasnt anything new... Yes, the gtx 500 was the big die... but it wasnt first...
Did you forget that Fermi had been around for a whole rounds of cards before that? GF100 As the GTX480, preceeded it by 9 months earlier in March of 2010.

What happened with the GTX 500 series is exactly the same marketing gimmick I am describing, that i believe is going to be repeated for the third time... and you fell for it...

A gimmick that i might add which was a repeat of the 8800GTX G80 vs 9800GTX G92 debacle...

the LAST time a big die product was released as the first product in a architecture generation was 2004 with the Geforce 6800 Ultra being launched first...
 

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So far Turing just seems unimpressive, absolutely no increase in performance/mm2 might even be a decrease if you factor in they using 12nm node. Energy effiency seems like a decent improvement though, I'm guessing about 40% but we don't know how much 12nm node is contributing to that.

Ray-tracing stuff doesn't work in gaming from what I know as you need tensor cores to clean up the image making it useless (there's a delay to clean up this image). Might be decent for cut-scenes though.

Looking forward to the future to see if I'm right
 

Borealis7

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connectors at the back pictured here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/246905/...ort-usb-wiring-could-get-a-big-push-by-nvidia

this is a problem for people like me with older monitors. my GTX1080 still has a DVI connector, which i must use because my Samsung monitor does not do 120Hz over HDMI, only over DVI.
i don't plan on upgrading for a few more years (or generations) but if i would, then i'd have to replace my monitor or start messing with adapters.
 

RichUK

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connectors at the back pictured here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/246905/...ort-usb-wiring-could-get-a-big-push-by-nvidia

this is a problem for people like me with older monitors. my GTX1080 still has a DVI connector, which i must use because my Samsung monitor does not do 120Hz over HDMI, only over DVI.
i don't plan on upgrading for a few more years (or generations) but if i would, then i'd have to replace my monitor or start messing with adapters.

Can't you just use a DVI to display port adaptor or cable - they're not expensive.
 

maddie

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you sir are confused... Big die first has never happened since Tesla 1.0 generation.

The GF110 released as the GTX580 in Nov of 2010, very easily could have simply been the GTX480ti... it wasnt anything new... Yes, the gtx 500 was the big die... but it wasnt first...
Did you forget that Fermi had been around for a whole rounds of cards before that? GF100 As the GTX480, preceeded it by 9 months earlier in March of 2010.

What happened with the GTX 500 series is exactly the same marketing gimmick I am describing, that i believe is going to be repeated for the third time... and you fell for it...

A gimmick that i might add which was a repeat of the 8800GTX G80 vs 9800GTX G92 debacle...

the LAST time a big die product was released as the first product in a architecture generation was 2004 with the Geforce 6800 Ultra being launched first...
Completely false. Check again.
 
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arandomguy

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Can't you just use a DVI to display port adaptor or cable - they're not expensive.

DP to Dual Link DVI adapters required for high refresh are $100 USD +. Single link adapters are cheap but single link DVI maxes at 1920x1200@60hz.
 

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DP to Dual Link DVI adapters required for high refresh are $100 USD +. Single link adapters are cheap but single link DVI maxes at 1920x1200@60hz.

Active adapters also probably add latency.

If zero high end AIB TU1xx cards have a Dual Link DVI-D port, then all the AIBs collectively shot themselves in the foot, as the one that produces one with one will get substantially more sales than the rest.
 

guskline

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This is what happens when there is no competition. We can only hope Raja at intel can actually deliver which is somewhat doubtful given his track record at AMD (it went downhill from the moment he joined...) and intels own track record with GPUs.

I'm simply avoiding the market right now as this was to be expected and hence the real winners are people with 1080p displays as there is little need to upgrade anyway. and you save even more by only buying old games on steam sales.
I agree. Some can argue that Raja had nothing to work with at AMD and his gpu group was gutted. Perhaps he and Jim Keller at Intel can create some new magic but it will take time.

I wonder when AMD will launch Navi?

Right now Nvidia literally owns the high end GPU market in the gaming arena.
 
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