Damn is that with tax included? Probably not? I'm thinking they just want to make the most sales in US but even then it's still expensive. Then you have Europe too and other countries where inflation makes it an even harder sell.
Damn is that with tax included? Probably not? I'm thinking they just want to make the most sales in US but even then it's still expensive. Then you have Europe too and other countries where inflation makes it an even harder sell.MemoryExpress just put up 2080/2080Ti listings, $1600-1700 CAD for the 2080Ti is beyond ridiculous. 1080 came out at $999 and 1080Ti came out at $1100, almost $600 jump in next generation. As hard as it is to maintain money in Canada right now, I'm not sure if it will be a strong seller in Canada.
People are discussing the price more than their excitement of the new features .. This is an across the board failure.
So if all the AIB cards will have the same clocks then what's the difference, the coolers? I usually buy AIB since some have better clocks out the box plus different cooling.Anandtech:
"Speaking of clocks, it is noteworthy that all of the AIB makers that have disclosed base and boost frequencies of their GeForce RTX 2080 Ti cards decided to stick to clocks of Founder’s Edition cards. It is unclear whether this is a precaution on board partners' part, or a requirement of NVIDIA. However, if all AIB producers stick to this strategy, at least initially there will be no custom adapters that will offer higher performance than NVIDIA’s FE boards."
So they might be doing the 1070 Ti thing again with no factory OC allowed.
Now I personally am ok with this. With this I can simply compare the various AIB cards on noise and temperature. It's hard to find the best card when one might be louder and power hungrier but boosts higher than a more efficient one. Assuming you max OC anyway.
Though better cards may still sustain a higher boost longer since temps will be down.
Although I understand this is Nvidia sticking it to their own partners, so I'm not celebrating it. I'm just fine with it. But maybe things will change later and it's not enforced.
Yea sounds like a paid sales ad. Talking about your not future proof if you buy a 1080ti instead. There is no such thing as future proof when you are a PC gamer. There always is something better. You just either have the best at the time or you don't.Anyone seen this article from Toms yet?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html
It seems weird as if its a sales ad.
Anyone seen this article from Toms yet?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html
It seems weird as if its a sales ad.
Yea or people like me that would like to go to 4k because I think 1440p would maybe be overkill for a 2080ti but I have clue on which monitors to look at.Yah, what a crock of BS. Literally the only people that should be buying RTX cards are 1080Ti owners who need a better 4k experience and money is no object. Everyone else should be getting Pascal, or at least waiting until independent reviews are out. Marketing slides walk the line of Exaggeration and Fraud.
This is the the important thing.
You can't raise prices by up to 71% and expect anything different.
Anyone seen this article from Toms yet?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html
It seems weird as if its a sales ad.
What the absolute hell? I didn't even read it. The title is ridiculous. Suggesting that some kid who saved their money ALL SUMMER LONG for a new GPU go ahead and waste hundreds of dollars that they didn't need to spend, on a GPU with features they can't even use without tanking FPS, is just a big "D" move by them. I'm actually quite astonished. Pure sales ad. Yeah kids, you worked all summer at Burger King and saved your money, but go ahead and buy a crappy CPU with 4 threads and don't even worry about getting that SSD, because $800 for an RTX 2080 is totally worth your sacrifice. What an A-hole to suggest such a thing.
Here's a quote from this twit's twitter handle, "Why you should stop sketching about prices and pay the premium for @nvidia RTX."
LOL! Tell you what, moron. If it's such a "must have" maybe you can buy us all one. Go ahead. Mortgage your house and buy 500 people a 2080Ti. Don't even sketch about it. Seriously, how much did Nvidia pay this guy? Free Winchell's for life or something?
I'm going to assume you will not be buying one of these cards. I know its a bit of a reach, but, I feel like you wont.
Did a Great Maxwell Downgrade occur, because my 970 still performs admirably, compared to my 1070, if vram usage is not an issue.People did get burnt pretty badly with the Great Kepler Downgrade. Can't say if that will or won't happen with Pascal though.
Any performance news?
What?
For the top card this is really just semantics. RTX 2080Ti is really this generations Titan X. Big Pascal GP102 first showed up in the Titan X at $1200. This generation Big Turing TU102 first shows up in the RTX 2080Ti at $1200.
So It's a ZERO percent price increase for Big Chip at intro.
For RTX 2080 is 699 MSRP-799 FE. GTX 1080 was 599 MSRP, 699 FE. For the Founders of each 799/699 = 14% increase.
Also note that at intro GTX 980 was $549, so getting GTX 1080 at Intro was 699/549 27% increase over a GTX 980 at intro. Note worse price jump for GTX 1000 series.
For RTX 2070 is 499 MSRP - 599 FE, GTX 1070 379 MSRP - 449 FE. = 599/449 = 33% increase. Though again the price jump was worse at 1070 Intro 449/329 = 36% increase over the 970.
Price increases are really not that much at intro over previous generation intro, and are actually less steep than increases for intro pricing of the wildly popular GTX 1000 series.
Also any supposed claims of perf/$ regression, need to wait on actual benchmarks.
But don't let me interrupt the hysteria.
You don't get it. The $1200 2080 Ti isn't a rebranded Titan. It's the Ti.
Still don't get it? Besides the very first Kepler Titan which was a new experiment, it became blindingly obvious that each Titan was an earlier adopter Ti tax.
That's gone now. There is no early adopter tax and no reassurance of a $650-$700 Ti within half a year or so.
1080 Ti users who want a faster card for the same price (give or take), have nothing. Nada. Because the successor to their $700 card received a 71% price hike.
And I clearly said "up to 71%" which is factually true (Ti FE to FE). There's no hysteria in truth without opinion. That "up to" means the others are less than 71%, thanks for listing the others I guess?
Anyone seen this article from Toms yet?
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html
It seems weird as if its a sales ad.
Um, most of it, actually. I think I'll go do some stuff IRL. See ya later!Avram Piltch said:When you die and your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?
No, you don't get it. They could call it x080Ti, Titan, Shirley or a Rose.
It's still the first appearance for Big Turing, and it cost the same $1200 as the first appearance of Big Pascal (which was a lot smaller than Big Turing).
The intro price is the same as last release, though it seems the forums would have been quieter if they called it Titan.
It doesn't appear to have affected actual sales though, it looks like RTX Titan, ooops, RTX 2080Ti was the first thing to sell out.
I suppose there's always the chance they could release that previously rumored RTX 2080+, which could be the new Ti equivalent. I am skeptical of this though, because as it stands, the RTX 2080Ti doesn't stand to impress, so cutting it down further certainly wouldn't get me to part with my $700. To be quite honest, so far this release doesn't appeal to me, even if prices didn't increase at all. I certainly wouldn't have pre ordered the stupid thing even at $700 without proper reviews, lol. Too many unknowns.