What I should have asked also was if Nvidia allows entry per title or on the company level? Probably the latter because once you're a partner you're in regardless of who you optimize for. Regardless, you make a good point.
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When it comes down to it, AMD has more interest in stopping that, than NVidia does, because NN training will create advantages on NVidia HW even for AMD optimized titles.
Here's the video translation from VideoCardz.com:I wish google translate worked on videos.
Welcome to PC Hocasi, where everything is made up and points don't matter.
Well, the rule of the thumb: if someone is not showing you the cards, *whispers* they probably never had them in the first place.
Here's the video translation from VideoCardz.com:
I also think it's fake because how would he have gotten drivers so quickly.It's probably fake, but I would note that if you are breaking an NDA, you probably wouldn't want to post images of the card that might help trace the source.
Who knows could be. Only a week or so more to go. I just want to know if it's safe for me to go to 4k now finally. If so I'll probably want a gsync 4k display anyway.There are reviewer kits out and about right now, with the drivers included. Perhaps he got his hands on a reviewer kit? Plus almost all the benchmarks are in line with my predictions so I want it to be real.
Who knows could be. Only a week or so more to go. I just want to know if it's safe for me to go to 4k now finally. If so I'll probably want a gsync 4k display anyway.
More like two weeks :/ 14 September mate. And my favorite sites likely won't get all cards from Nvidia and that annoys me, much like last time. One gets a 2080 another a Ti or the 2070. I have very few sites who's reviews I trust.
Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed comes to mind for me.Who do you trust?
Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed comes to mind for me.
HotHardware did a video conference with Nvidia's Tom Peterson and talked about a slew of topics.
Most interesting to me were the comments about performance. At around the 25:30 mark, Tom is asked directly about the performance uplift in traditional games with Turing. At first he responds with 35-45% faster by tier (i.e. 2080 over 1080 & 2080 Ti over 1080 Ti) is what we can expect across a variety of games without DLSS. Later, one of the interviewers asks about the charts Nvidia produced that show a 50% uptick in performance and Tom responds that is probably correct and that there will be cases where the 2080 beats the 1080 Ti.
I'd lean towards 35-45% faster on average as that would align with the 2080 beating the 1080 Ti on occasion and Tom's initial comments.
Credit to nEo717 over on [H] for linking the video and pointing out some more interesting discussion points.
No worries always good to share new info when it's available even though lately we've been going through a lot of links and videos which aren't really official yet but that one seemed legit.Apologies. Didn't realize it had been posted before.
Apologies. Didn't realize it had been posted before.
Who do you trust?
Guru 3d is good and I also like digital foundry too. Not sure about tomb raider you may be able to get away without too much aa and still be able to play on mostly high settings.AnandTech (obviously ha ha)
OC3D (Tom is straight up, non scripted)
Guru3D
Digital Foundry
I kinda like GN but he was extremely biased, and wrongfully so, with the EVGA AIO. But let this remark not turn into a trustworthy or not debate, please.
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I'm worried that with my 1080 @1440p I have to make a lot of compromises for the following titles:
Cyberpunk 2077
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Theres something seriously wrong with those numbers for Witcher 3.
They claim 44 fps average with max settings at 4k with 1080 ti -- that is barely above 980 Ti which averages around 37fps at 4k max.
In fact a 1080 ti should be averaging around 65 fps with everything maxed out, and a Titan V should be getting around 85 fps.
Guru 3d is good and I also like digital foundry too. Not sure about tomb raider you may be able to get away without too much aa and still be able to play on mostly high settings.
Metro and cyberpunk will require more horsepower. Although the last metro I played didn't seem to have issues. I can't recall if it was the first one or last light that I finished.
Cyberpunk will definitely make use of the 1080ti and most likely that won't be enough for all maxed settings but it should be close. If you don't end up with a 20 series card you could always get a 1080ti for cheaper.
Even if the 35-45 % increase over my card is true I'll probably get a 2080ti at some point but I know I'll feel kind of crappy spending $1200 for features that I won't use, except for dlss. If you could play at 1440p with rtx on that would be nice but that won't be the case.
But then at least I should be able to max stuff out easily if I stick to 1440p with it so that won't be so bad even though I'd like to do 4k.
I'm going to wait on playing tomb raider until I get one of the new cards. Definitely getting Cyberpunk and resident evil 2 remake when that is out. So I'll hold off on playing any PC games until I have the new Ti, assuming it shows good results. But at least I'll have red dead redemption 2 to occupy my time until that time comes.
Judging by some of the prices of the speculated aib models, they say Asus is planning to sell a 2080ti for $1500?!!
I don't think we will see any cards lower than $1200 as that's the real MSRP thanks to the FE models. If third parties are going to charge so much I may just end up getting a regular model since clocks won't be much different.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia-rtx-20-series-pros-and-cons
Also, AMD is said to launch the first 7nm cards this year. I'm betting Nvidia will have something too at one point.
https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-new-7nm-radeon-graphics-cards-launching-in-2018/
Probably by 2019 early 2020 as they have said in this article here. This could be when they finish it and then may need more time. I was in Poland last year and met some people at a friend's wedding that worked at CD Projekt Red and they are a pretty small company but he said they rely on government grants to get their work done. This grant should end in June 2019 but that doesn't necessarily mean the game will be released right away. Although it could be a possibility and I'd be really happy if they did.By the time cyberpunk 2077 is released we will be on cards that are at least a generation beyond the 2080ti so it’s not even an issue to me. Can’t look at games that are years out with no release date. Gotta look at what you are playing now and what is coming in the next few months to a year.
By the time cyberpunk 2077 is released we will be on cards that are at least a generation beyond the 2080ti so it’s not even an issue to me. Can’t look at games that are years out with no release date. Gotta look at what you are playing now and what is coming in the next few months to a year.
Posted a couple of pages (and days) back by sze5003. Credit to him since he found it days ago, right after it went live.
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...es-september-14.2552804/page-53#post-39554947
While everyone latches onto the 35%-45% stuff, Tom appears to me to just be going along with the released performance slide while adding it will depend on specific game.
The more interesting stuff for me was:
DLSS: Mainly that it will be trained for each game, and maybe each setting/level for each particular game, and that NVidia will do the DLSS training for free on the their network as part of developer relations.
TPU: Will be accessible through CUDA interface, developer can use them for whatever they want in games, and he expects all kinds of new uses developed outside NVidia.
NVLink: Nothing great, he shot down the Memory Pooling idea that many had. Basically new NVLink is just a faster SLI bridge. SLI still requires just as much developer work as it ever did, same old SLI modes, all working the same way. At least for now.
This would be very cool/interesting if nv link worked like that. It would take the load off the primary card and thus allow rtx to be at playable fps for resolutions higher than 1080p. I wouldn't spend this much for two cards just to have that if it was possible.One more thing regarding SLI, how about possibilty of primary display card providing classic image rasterization and the other computing the raytraced parts of the scene, then sending the data via NVlink and all its composited into final image? Dont you think that might work? Or no way?