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cmdrdredd

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It's not low resolution, it's slightly lower resolutions.
NVIDIA shipped DLSS game demos already to the press, you will see at least 50% uplift in performance just from activating it on an RTX 2080 for example. And without any IQ loss whatsoever.

Lower than what you are running is low resolution to me.
 

DooKey

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Buying on price for performance is closer to rational consumer behavior. To ignore that is closer to the irrational behavior of cults. I pre-ordered a RTX 2080 Ti FE because I want playable frame rates in certain games at high resolutions. I don't think that was a very rational decision on my part, though. If money was an issue, I'd have lowered the resolution or render scale.

I bought a RTX 2080 Ti because I want better performance on my 3440X1440 100HZ UW. That seems pretty rational to me. Do I have any other option or should I just be worried about the cost? Value is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has a different view of what is value is my point. The price/performance cult believes they are the arbiter of value. They're not.
 
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deathBOB

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It’s odd to me that people are complaining about prices here but will absolutely spend more on a high end CPU that is only a few percentage points more capable that a lower tier or older cpu.
 

Kenmitch

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I bought a RTX 2080 Ti because I want better performance on my 3440X1440 100HZ UW. That seems pretty rational to me. Do I have any other option or should I just be worried about the cost? Value is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has a different view of what is value is my point. The price/performance cult believes they are the arbiter of value. They're not.

The shear fact that your defending / rationalizing your purchasing decision make me believe even you don't truly believe what you just typed.
 
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I don't understand the obsession with 4k. Ultrawide looks and plays so much better and you don't need the latest super high end to enjoy it. I have a 34" 3440x1440 75hz paired with a gtx 1080 and a 2600k and it is awesome. 4k text sucks and you don't get the awesome field of view of ultrawide.
 

jpiniero

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OK, this is funny. Sounds like people's 2080 preorders are shipping now and some will receive it tomorrow. Gotta get those preorders shipped before reviews, amirite?
 

mohit9206

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So many of you just don't get it. People who buy these cards aren't price/performance cult members.
I do not believe that everyone who buys top end cards don't care about price/performance. Just because one pays top dollar for a product doesn't mean they don't expect good value out of it. The fact is 980Ti and the 1080Ti were good value cards compared to their predecessors than the 2080Ti is to the 1080Ti.
 

zinfamous

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I see this forum is still filled with people who like to judge/throw shade at others for spending their money how they want.

It actually never happens that way. This is how this always plays out.

Rational consumer: "These cards seem OK, but the claimed performance absolutely doesn't justify the increased price, creating yet another tier of irrational pricing, further pushing this hobby into an even tinier niche."
Other guy: "Are you telling me that I can't spend my money how I want??!?!?!???!?"
Rational consumer: "Um, obviously not?"
Other guy: "I can spend my money how I want!"

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TahoeDust

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It actually never happens that way. This is how this always plays out.

Rational consumer: "These cards seem OK, but the claimed performance absolutely doesn't justify the increased price, creating yet another tier of irrational pricing, further pushing this hobby into an even tinier niche."
Other guy: "Are you telling me that I can't spend my money how I want??!?!?!???!?"
Rational consumer: "Um, obviously not?"
Other guy: "I can spend my money how I want!"

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Funny. I see it this way...

Enthusiast with disposable income: "Man! I'm excited about these new cards. I think I am going to go ahead and order one.
Other guy: "Are you dumb? Can't you see that the price increase to performance increase scale is not linear!?!?!?"
Enthusiast with disposable income: "Meh, that's ok. I like owning and playing with the new things and have the money to do it."
Other other guy: "Only a sucker would buy these cards! Can't you see that the price increase to performance increase scale is not linear!?!?!?"


We all get it. We're paying 100% more money for ~35% more performance. That is kind of how it works at the top of every industry. Do you think the guys that traded in their 2017 Ferrari 458 in for a 2018 488 saw a linear price/performance scale?
 

sze5003

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Yeah this is the typical fashion of arguments here. I also hate that it's more expensive and doesn't match price per performance ratio and I do feel bad paying that price but performance seems better than 15% that we were speculating. Only one more day or so before reviews are out.
 

Markfw

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This is how I see it. A new 2080TI FTW3 (EVGA) is $1349. For $719 I can get a 1080TI FTW3 (the 6696, I just got 2 at that price), so I can buy 2 of the 1080TI for almost the price of one 2080TI. And I have the disposable income, but I chose not to waste it. Thats how I continue to have disposable income, even in retirement.

Thats called being a smart enthusiast. Oh, and thats how I was able to afford the 2990WX.
 

TahoeDust

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This is how I see it. A new 2080TI FTW3 (EVGA) is $1349. For $719 I can get a 1080TI, so I can buy 2 of the 1080TI for almost the price of one 2080TI. And I have the disposable income, but I chose not to waste it. Thats how I continue to have disposable income, even in retirement.

Thats called being a smart enthusiast. Oh, and thats how I was able to afford the 2990WX.
Multiple cards is not the best solution for a lot of enthusiasts. If SLI scaled well and worked well, I'm sure more would be going SLI 2080ti.

Multiple cards must scale well for your application.
 

Kenmitch

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Funny. I see it this way...

Enthusiast with disposable income: "Man! I'm excited about these new cards. I think I am going to go ahead and order one.
Other guy: "Are you dumb? Can't you see that the price increase to performance increase scale is not linear!?!?!?"
Enthusiast with disposable income: "Meh, that's ok. I like owning and playing with the new things and have the money to do it."
Other other guy: "Only a sucker would buy these cards! Can't you see that the price increase to performance increase scale is not linear!?!?!?"


We all get it. We're paying 100% more money for ~35% more performance. That is kind of how it works at the top of every industry. Do you think the guys that traded in their 2017 Ferrari 458 in for a 2018 488 saw a linear price/performance scale?

Sounds more like the enthusiast fighting with the voices in his own head too me. The other guy would have most likely pointed out that there aren't even any reviews yet, and most likely called the enthusiast a idiot.

It's up to each individual to make their own purchasing decisions. If you see the value in what you want to buy then who cares if others don't . I think most members here could really care less what the other guy is buying in the end.
 
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This is how I see it. A new 2080TI FTW3 (EVGA) is $1349. For $719 I can get a 1080TI FTW3 (the 6696, I just got 2 at that price), so I can buy 2 of the 1080TI for almost the price of one 2080TI. And I have the disposable income, but I chose not to waste it. Thats how I continue to have disposable income, even in retirement.

Thats called being a smart enthusiast. Oh, and thats how I was able to afford the 2990WX.

since this is a video card GAMING thread, one could argue that unless you hold large lan parties, the only system you need to game is a single fast Intel/AMD cpu and ONE gtx1080ti since sli sucks. The rest of your equipment would be a WASTE of money.

In fact, I would wager that a gtx2080ti will beat 2 gtx1080ti's in sli in most games.
That's called being a smart enthusiast.

If you use your systems for other tasks , that's for you, but some might think that's also a waste of money.

WHat I'm saying is only YOU can determine what a waste of YOUR money is , other OPINIONS might differ.

For example. For ME a $2000 threadripper cpu is a TOTAL WASTE of money, but for others it might not be.
 

Kenmitch

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Multiple cards is not the best solution for a lot of enthusiasts. If SLI scaled well and worked well, I'm sure more would be going SLI 2080ti.

Multiple cards must scale well for your application.

I blame nvidia for the lack of multi gpu support more than anybody. Multi gpu support was really good when nvidia had the upper hand. Once AMD solutions were competitive and sometimes the better option it seems like support just dwindled away. Kind of like how we use to see fraps in every gpu review and now it's very seldom used. Not sure if it's a coincidence or some kind of conspiracy in the end.
 

TahoeDust

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I blame nvidia for the lack of multi gpu support more than anybody. Multi gpu support was really good when nvidia had the upper hand. Once AMD solutions were competitive and sometimes the better option it seems like support just dwindled away. Kind of like how we use to see fraps in every gpu review and now it's very seldom used. Not sure if it's a coincidence or some kind of conspiracy in the end.
I have run SLI and Crossfire. Neither one was a picnic. I decided a few years ago the fastest single card EVGA card (besides Kingpin) was my plan and so far so good.
 

Markfw

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since this is a video card GAMING thread, one could argue that unless you hold large lan parties, the only system you need to game is a single fast Intel/AMD cpu and ONE gtx1080ti since sli sucks. The rest of your equipment would be a WASTE of money.

In fact, I would wager that a gtx2080ti will beat 2 gtx1080ti's in sli in most games.
That's called being a smart enthusiast.

If you use your systems for other tasks , that's for you, but some might think that's also a waste of money.

WHat I'm saying is only YOU can determine what a waste of YOUR money is , other OPINIONS might differ.

For example. For ME a $2000 threadripper cpu is a TOTAL WASTE of money, but for others it might not be.
There is no $2000 threadripper. There is a $1749 one that blows all other CPUs out of the water (retail consumer) and even probably beats a lot of server CPUs. It certainly beats the $2000 7980XE

And I do hold large lan party's, and I have 14 boxes, and 10 1080TI FTW3's, 2 1080's and 2 1070TI's in my boxes, and more.
 
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TahoeDust

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There is no $2000 threadripper. There is a $1749 one that blows all other CPUs out of the water (retail consumer) and even probably beats a lot of server CPUs. It certainly beats the $2000 7980XE

And I do hold large lan party's, and I have 14 boxes, and 10 1080TI FTW3's, 2 1080's and 2 1070TI's in my boxes, and more.





You're trolling again.
Plus posting memes with no comment? This isn't OT.


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Head1985

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I see this forum is still filled with people who like to judge/throw shade at others for spending their money how they want.
Do you realise you pretty much increasing prices for next gen cards for everyone?Nvidia just testing waters how much they can charge guys like you.And you dont even know performance or power consuption.And if you buy it they will increase price for next generation because why not if people buying it?
Nvidia tried it with 8800ULTRA for like 830USD.But back then reviews were independent and critisize it and people i guess have more brain so nobody buys it and next gen they launch at 650USD GTX280.

So yeah i dont like that you increasing prices for next gen cards by buying whatever nvidia throw at you at whatever price.Because you effecting me by increasing next gen cards price.
 
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