Nvidia ,Rtx2080ti,2080,2070, information thread. Reviews and prices September 14.

[zinfamous]

35% increase for the 2080 over the 1080 in existing games would bode well, imo.
It will likely only get better as drivers improve.

So, again 1080 ti performance for 30% greater cost? I recall how it's rarely tolerated to justify increased cost with "better hardware" when it doesn't really make a difference in actual performance. At the end of the day, performance is what really matters, right?

Again, I think there is some cool stuff in here, but it's weird seeing the typical red side arguments: "yeah, but maybe this stuff will be really cool in 1 or 2 years and will be even better!" That's nVidia taking the RTG marketing route. .....it hasn't worked well for RTG recently, lol.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

https://www.techradar.com/news/the-...ally-twice-as-powerful-as-the-nvidia-gtx-1080

Twice as fast as the 1080? Its twice in a few areas if you turn on DLSS.

God that is really awful. They're claiming about a 46% gain in performance for the RTX 2080 vs the GTX 1080 at 4k in Final Fantasy without DLSS. If you look up the Final Fantasy XV benchmark on Gamegpu.ru the GTX 1080 Ti outperforms the GTX 1080 by 34% or so. So that would make

GTX2080 / GTX1080Ti = 1.46/1.34 = 1.09

So the 2080 is 9% faster than the 1080 Ti at 4k in FF XV. That is freaking pathetic considering the 1080 is 41.7% faster than the 980 Ti at 4k in Gamegpu.ru's Final Fantasy XV benchmark. FFS why would anyone buy these cards?

 

[jpiniero]

And if the Ti replaced the Titan, the 2080 the previous Ti and so on, why are they comparing the 1080 with the 2080?

It wouldn't look that impressive. That's probably why they didn't call the 2080 the 2080 Ti and 2080 Ti a 2090 or something despite the prices.

 

[antihelten]

So the 2080 is 9% faster than the 1080 Ti at 4k in FF XV. That is freaking pathetic considering the 1080 is 41.7% faster than the 980 Ti at 4k in Gamegpu.ru's Final Fantasy XV benchmark. FFS why would anyone buy these cards?

The 1080 had the benefit of a full node jump relative to the 980 Ti, the 2080 doesn't. As such significantly smaller performance increases are to be expected. The real issue is the price.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

It wouldn't look that impressive. That's probably why they didn't call the 2080 the 2080 Ti and 2080 Ti a 2090 or something despite the prices.

Exactly!

As for DLSS needing implementation from the developer side per game (as was just explained to me elsewhere), considering 99% of games are developed for consoles without the hardware to support it, before being ported to PC, I don't really see this taking off much :/ which would be a shame and hopefully I am wrong.

 

[sze5003]

Here's another comparing 2080, 1080, 1080ti. Similar like the last one.

https://i.imgur.com/SWMjHOK.jpg

 

[Muhammed]

Turing CUDA cores are 50% faster than Pascal CUDA cores

https://videocardz.com/77696/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-editors-day-leaks

 

[TheF34RChannel]

Here's another comparing 2080, 1080, 1080ti. Similar like the last one.

https://i.imgur.com/SWMjHOK.jpg

2080 equals 1080 Ti in those.

 

[sze5003]

My guess is the difference isn't that much bigger in 2080 vs 2080ti if they are comparing 1080ti with 2080.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The 1080 had the benefit of a full node jump relative to the 980 Ti, the 2080 doesn't. As such significantly smaller performance increases are to be expected. The real issue is the price.

True. It's a little more than what 980 was over 780 Ti (that was about a 7.5% gain at 4k in techpowerup's testsuite). But yeah 980 was $150 cheaper than 780 Ti launch price for that middling gain while 2080 is $100 more expensive than the 1080 Ti.

 

[Muhammed]

New My guess is the difference isn't that much bigger in 2080 vs 2080ti if they are comparing 1080ti with 2080.

They are doing 2080 vs 1080. No Ti is involved.
And No, 2080Ti is going to be at least 50% faster than 1080Ti.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

My guess is the difference isn't that much bigger in 2080 vs 2080ti if they are comparing 1080ti with 2080.

That can't be right otherwise both couldn't coexist.

 

[TheF34RChannel]

They are doing 2080 vs 1080. No Ti is involved.
And No, 2080Ti is going to be at least 50% faster than 1080Ti.

Never going to happen.

 

[PeterScott]

Turing CUDA cores are 50% faster than Pascal CUDA cores

https://videocardz.com/77696/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-editors-day-leaks

It looks like they have another presentations worth of traditional performance slides.

 

[Muhammed]

Never going to happen.

LOL care to bet?
Look here:
https://videocardz.com/77696/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-editors-day-leaks

 

[StinkyPinky]

They are doing 2080 vs 1080. No Ti is involved.
And No, 2080Ti is going to be at least 50% faster than 1080Ti.

Doubt it. If it was, why aren't they shouting it from the rooftops? Why did they do no benchmarks in their presentation? It will be 20% faster.

 

[Muhammed]

Doubt it. If it was, why aren't they shouting it from the rooftops? Why did they do no benchmarks in their presentation? It will be 20% faster.

They are being stupid and dense this time, I don't know why.probably because of RTX.

They have increased efficiency by 50% core to core, and have the 2080 being 10% faster than 1080Ti. So 2080Ti being only 10% faster than 2080 is nonsense. The difference between them in raw specs is large.

 

[piesquared]

Never going to happen.

It will in nvidia marketing slides though, at a specific setting, under ideal conditions. What those conditions and settings are would be revealed in the fine print which is MIA. They gave themselves a month to circulate these slides and have the friendlies repeat the number, which combined with the recent draconian NDA means we have a month of hype train marketing ahead. CHOO CHOO!
I"m hoping Charlie @Semiaccurate gives us the real story soon, whether to validate or rebut these claims.

 

[PeterScott]

Exactly!

As for DLSS needing implementation from the developer side per game (as was just explained to me elsewhere), considering 99% of games are developed for consoles without the hardware to support it, before being ported to PC, I don't really see this taking off much :/ which would be a shame and hopefully I am wrong.

I doubt there is much actual developer work involved in adding DLSS support, unlike ray tracing, PhysX or other features that need work all over the game. Post Process AA, just needs to be enabled.

If a game already supports multiple AA methods including TAA, adding one more would be trivial, a menu update and a bit of setup code and done.

It likely has the same setup and hooks that TAA does (if it uses multiple frames) or less if it just single frame like FXAA.

Which is why you see DLSS showing up in already released games. It's a trivial amount of work.

Edit:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-releases-performance-metrics-and-some-info-on-dlss.html
"DLSS is not game specific, and in the future should work on most game titles."

 

[TheF34RChannel]

LOL care to bet?
Look here:
https://videocardz.com/77696/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-editors-day-leaks

A slide from Nvidia saying how great their product is... Have you ever heard a company saying otherwise?

Doubt it. If it was, why aren't they shouting it from the rooftops? Why did they do no benchmarks in their presentation? It will be 20% faster.

Precisely sir! 18.5% according to Adoredtv

I doubt there is much actual developer work involved in adding DLSS support, unlike ray tracing, PhysX or other features that need work all over the game. Post Process AA, just needs to be enabled.

If a game already supports multiple AA methods including TAA, adding one more would be trivial, a menu update and a bit of setup code and done.

It likely has the same setup and hooks that TAA does (if it uses multiple frames) or less if it just single frame like FXAA.

Which is why you see DLSS showing up in already released games. It's a trivial amount of work.

That would be good news, it seems a neat feature to me.

 

[Muhammed]

Precisely sir! 18.5% according to Adoredtv

LOL AdoredTV is the bible now? he said 50% in the previous leak, now he says 20%. he can't make up his mind.

It IS 50% because this is what NV is declaring, he can't possibly know the product more than NVIDIA can he?

 

[Muhammed]

So just like Vega launch, I will be taking screenshots and showing them to the know it all crowd who just like to baselessly crap on any Turing news for no good reason except AdoredTV and AMD friendlies said so.

 

[Kenmitch]

LOL care to bet?
Look here:
https://videocardz.com/77696/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-editors-day-leaks

I was going to bet you 1 cup of green koolaid but it looks like you've already reached your limit.

I wouldn't put too much into marketing slide just yet. Probably best to wait for the official reviews or at least a credible leak or two.

 

[Paul98]

At least this gives me some hope it will turn out alright, just have to wait for the prices to drop to a more normal price

 

[Kenmitch]

So just like Vega launch, I will be taking screenshots and showing them to the know it all crowd who just like to baselessly crap on any Turing news for no good reason except AdoredTV and AMD friendlies said so.

Can you post a link to the actual post?