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GodisanAtheist

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Looks like my next major/teardown rebuild is gonna happen out in the 2020-21 timeframe at this rate. Solid 4-5 year build at this rate, can't complain.

Just hope the used market doesn't still suck

980Ti will just keep beefing it till then...
 

Justinbaileyman

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Any chance we could see a $50 price drop back to MSRP for the lower end RTX 2080 before the holiday season or will newegg ect. keep milking us through the holidays??
 

Stuka87

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NVIDIA Releases Comparison Benchmarks for DLSS-Accelerated 4K Rendering

https://www.techpowerup.com/248608/...-benchmarks-for-dlss-accelerated-4k-rendering

"The results speak for themselves: with DLSS at 4K resolution, the upcoming NVIDIA RTX 2070 convincingly beats its previous-gen pair by doubling performance. Under these particular conditions, the new king of the hill, the RTX 2080 Ti, convincingly beats the previous gen's halo product in the form of the Titan Xp, with a 41% performance lead - but so does the new RTX 2070, which is being sold at half the asking price of the original Titan Xp."

Looks pretty good, if you believe the numbers.

Wait, so comparing a 4K render to a 1440P render results different frame rates?! Wow, who knew?!

What is sad is how many people I have talked to that think DLSS is amazing, and they look baffled when I mention that its faster because it renders at a way lower resolution and then upscales, resulting in worse image quality. If AMD pulled this crap people would be ripping them apart. nVidia does it and wow, thats awesome!
 

jpiniero

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Hmm, surprisingly there are 2070's for $499, well on backorder. It's not an amazing deal by any means but it might be worth the extra 50 bucks compared to the 1080.

Still say waiting for next year and the presumed shrink is a better call.
 

crisium

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2070 continues the price-to-performance disappointment. If it actually is priced 1:1 with the GTX 1080 at least it moves the needle forward, ever so slightly. Absolutely horrific compared to past x70 launches though (Titan performance for $330-$450).

If they were gonna make a whole new chip anyway (TU106) they should have just axed the RTX cores for this one. That way it would be smaller and could be cheaper. Once RT takes off, using RT on the 2070 will be like playing DX12 on a Fermi. Technically possible, but pointless.
 
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zinfamous

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Hmm, surprisingly there are 2070's for $499, well on backorder. It's not an amazing deal by any means but it might be worth the extra 50 bucks compared to the 1080.

Still say waiting for next year and the presumed shrink is a better call.

Previous generation from both nVidia and AMD were more or less on perpetual "backorder" at those very rarely met MSRPs. I wouldn't doubt that a few pre-orders and a slow trickle of newish, first-run buyers will get some units at MSRP, but it will probably be a negligible percentage in the end.
 

IntelUser2000

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Previous generation from both nVidia and AMD were more or less on perpetual "backorder" at those very rarely met MSRPs. I wouldn't doubt that a few pre-orders and a slow trickle of newish, first-run buyers will get some units at MSRP, but it will probably be a negligible percentage in the end.

AMD did the same thing with the RX 480. It was "$199", with the crappy reference blower cooler, but it got sold out and was never available again.

MSRP is basically a weapon for marketing.

If they were gonna make a whole new chip anyway (TU106) they should have just axed the RTX cores for this one.

Then they can't charge higher prices, and that's not preferable.The consumer electronics market has peaked, and volume is no longer increasing. Increasing prices enough so its not noticeable to most is the way to increase revenue.
 

Pandamonia

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This whole generation is a joke which people should avoid.

Cash grab for broken immature tech based on tesla factory seconds.

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Stuka87

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AMD did the same thing with the RX 480. It was "$199", with the crappy reference blower cooler, but it got sold out and was never available again.

MSRP is basically a weapon for marketing.



Then they can't charge higher prices, and that's not preferable.The consumer electronics market has peaked, and volume is no longer increasing. Increasing prices enough so its not noticeable to most is the way to increase revenue.

Reference versions are always temporary parts. But for reference, I paid $225 for my RX480 Nitro+ at launch, so its not like there was a huge price difference.
 

Justinbaileyman

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The $600 Founders Edition of the RTX 2070 vs. the $500 EVGA RTX 2070 Black with 38 games.

https://babeltechreviews.com/the-founders-edition-of-the-rtx-2070-reviewed-with-38-games/view-all/
So Happy, which one are you gonna get?? I am still in the market for a new card and have been waiting for the 2070's for an upgrade but now kinda thinking of going all out and getting the Evga RTX 2080 XC non ultra if only it would drop back down $50 bucks to the msrp of $749.99. there is like 15% back right now on purchases over $50 bucks and up to $50 bucks so not sure if I should just pull the trigger now or wait till black friday..
 

Paratus

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So Happy, which one are you gonna get?? I am still in the market for a new card and have been waiting for the 2070's for an upgrade but now kinda thinking of going all out and getting the Evga RTX 2080 XC non ultra if only it would drop back down $50 bucks to the msrp of $749.99. there is like 15% back right now on purchases over $50 bucks and up to $50 bucks so not sure if I should just pull the trigger now or wait till black friday..

Damn I’m very happy with my Red Devil RX Vega 56 performance. It’s essentially tied with the 2070 in several DX12 titles.

Shouldn’t Turing be faster in DX12?
 

happy medium

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So Happy, which one are you gonna get?? I am still in the market for a new card and have been waiting for the 2070's for an upgrade but now kinda thinking of going all out and getting the Evga RTX 2080 XC non ultra if only it would drop back down $50 bucks to the msrp of $749.99. there is like 15% back right now on purchases over $50 bucks and up to $50 bucks so not sure if I should just pull the trigger now or wait till black friday..
I will be buying a 100hz+ 1440p monitor so I will likely just grab the cheapest 2070 I can my hands on and overclock it. That should get me by for 1440p high settings, I dont do ultra settings, its not worth it.
I will use DLSS in the future and get some longevity out of the card,I hope.
 
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happy medium

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Damn I’m very happy with my Red Devil RX Vega 56 performance. It’s essentially tied with the 2070 in several DX12 titles.

Shouldn’t Turing be faster in DX12?
I honestly think Touring needs some driver refinements.
Mabe Nvidia needs to nerf the 10 series driver to get more performance out of Touring.
I think Touring was supposed to be better at async?

Just guessing.
 

Ottonomous

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no I was saying mabe to optimize for the new TOURING architecture they are finding it hard to keep performance high for Pascal also.
Kinda like the 680/780 series vs the 980/1080 series.
If you have any optimization concerns simply negate them by moving to the 2080 and guaranteeing longevity
 
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