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The reality is these $499 2070s will hardly be available in any kind of decent quantities and technically they might as well not exist because no one will be able to buy them for a few months. This is just for show to make the reviews look better. $499 2070 is a paper product unless proven otherwise.

I found two that can be ordered now:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4932091&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-932-091-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...4126273&cm_re=rtx_2070-_-14-126-273-_-Product
 

Stuka87

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A month later and Turing 2080/2080Ti is still a POS selling nowhere for the announced MSRP and still no RT nor DLSS.


This whole launch reminds me a lot of the FX series launch. Which as those of us old enough to recall, was a complete flop. I admittedly owned a 5700 Ultra, which was a decent card, but I would have been better off with ATI at the time.
 

Justinbaileyman

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Damn I’m very happy with my Red Devil RX Vega 56 performance. It’s essentially tied with the 2070 in several DX12 titles.

Shouldn’t Turing be faster in DX12?
Yeah but Vega cards use way more electrical power draw then the new Nvidia RTX cards dont they??
Dont know if Vega is viable for a person who runs there pc pretty much 24/7 like me.
 

n0x1ous

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Quake being an ID game doesn't use DirectX. Its an OpenGL/Vulcan title. The previous video posted showed only DirectX games. Which is most likely why we didn't see a difference for Quake. But saw a giant difference in some DirectX games (12fps in cases).
normally yes, but Quake Champions is based on a Saber engine and uses DX11
 

Paratus

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Yeah but Vega cards use way more electrical power draw then the new Nvidia RTX cards dont they??
Dont know if Vega is viable for a person who runs there pc pretty much 24/7 like me.

My Red Devil pulls between 198W and 220W on average depending on whether I use the Silent or OC BIOS when benchmarking.

The 2070FE supposedly runs about 185W. So it uses 10-15% less power at load. Nothing earth shattering as far as I’m concerned.
 

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This whole launch reminds me a lot of the FX series launch. Which as those of us old enough to recall, was a complete flop. I admittedly owned a 5700 Ultra, which was a decent card, but I would have been better off with ATI at the time.

That was the last generation of nVidia card that I owned. I know that it is just one generation and really doesn't represent what they ordered after, and that in my case, it was AIB-build specific issues: two cards with crappy fans that burned out quickly and smoked up the chip, but it nonetheless soured me. ...point being, I needed to replace at the time, which is why I had incentive to go ahead and switch to ATI
 

Justinbaileyman

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Do you game 24/7??
Pretty much.. LOL no no J/K'ing but I do leave the pc on overnight for video encoding and other mundane tasks..
Besides it wouldn't be a Vega 56 vs RTX 2070 for me its more in line with Vega 64 vs RTX 2070 or 2080.
I want the most powerful card but with the less amount of electric to power the darn thing.
 

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Pretty much.. LOL no no J/K'ing but I do leave the pc on overnight for video encoding and other mundane tasks..
Besides it wouldn't be a Vega 56 vs RTX 2070 for me its more in line with Vega 64 vs RTX 2070 or 2080.
I want the most powerful card but with the less amount of electric to power the darn thing.

Cares about power efficiency, but has a bronze PSU. You are killing me dude. You are better off buying a new PSU because it pays for itself if your power is expensive enough for you to care. It also works on your whole system rather than being a component vs component debate.
 

Stuka87

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That was the last generation of nVidia card that I owned. I know that it is just one generation and really doesn't represent what they ordered after, and that in my case, it was AIB-build specific issues: two cards with crappy fans that burned out quickly and smoked up the chip, but it nonetheless soured me. ...point being, I needed to replace at the time, which is why I had incentive to go ahead and switch to ATI

I had two fan failures on the 5700 Ultra I had. I ended up just rigging up my own fan.
 

Stuka87

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Yeah but Vega cards use way more electrical power draw then the new Nvidia RTX cards dont they??
Dont know if Vega is viable for a person who runs there pc pretty much 24/7 like me.

Idle wattage for pretty much every card out today is nearly identical. Load wattage is the only thing that changes. The RTX cards use a decent mount more power than the previous gen cards did. You would have to have the card under load a lot to see a difference in power. And if you run with vsync on, the card is most likely not going to run full bore anyway. AMD cards also typically respond very well to under volting.
 

Justinbaileyman

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Cares about power efficiency, but has a bronze PSU. You are killing me dude. You are better off buying a new PSU because it pays for itself if your power is expensive enough for you to care. It also works on your whole system rather than being a component vs component debate.
Oh no no no no , I have an all new EVGA 850w GOLD+ PSU I just have not updated my sig yet.I threw that other psu out a while ago. Also using an x470 Gigabyte gaming 7 mobo instead of the one in my sig as well.That Asrock Itx board has been boxed back up and sitting on my shelf for a just in case of an emergency back up should anything go wrong with my x470 motherboard.I will eventually get around to updating the sig but to lazy right now as I am just now starting to get over having walking pneumonia.
 
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What I want to know is... Which is better/faster (yet cost effective) upgrade now for gpu assisted h265 video encoding to replace my GTX970?
 

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What I want to know is... Which is better/faster (yet cost effective) upgrade now for gpu assisted h265 video encoding to replace my GTX970?

A used gtx1070 for about $280.
That should be 50% faster at games and a good hardware h265 10 bit and 12 bit encoder.

A used $220 gtx1060 6gb should be 15/20% faster with games and a good hardware h265 10 and 12 bit encoder.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/981372/geforce-basics/which-gpus-support-hevc-a-k-a-h-265-/
 
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SteveGrabowski

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This whole launch reminds me a lot of the FX series launch. Which as those of us old enough to recall, was a complete flop. I admittedly owned a 5700 Ultra, which was a decent card, but I would have been better off with ATI at the time.

Was that this card? lol

 
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happy medium

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Do the new 2070's or 2080's have a better H.265 encoder built in??
Yes,its fully enabled hardware based compared to the 9 series.
I think the 960 was the only hardware based h265 encoder, I had one. The link I provided tells you.
I think the 10 series also supports 12 bit and the 9 series does not, just 10 bit.
 
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Mark_Venture

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A used gtx1070 for about $280.
That should be 50% faster at games and a good hardware h265 10 bit and 12 bit encoder.

A used $220 gtx1060 6gb should be 15/20% faster with games and a good hardware h265 10 and 12 bit encoder.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/981372/geforce-basics/which-gpus-support-hevc-a-k-a-h-265-/
Do we know how the RTX compare to the GTX boards for H265 encoding? I've only seen "game" benchmarks... I mean, sure a GTX1070 for $280 doesn't sound bad, but if an RTX2070 is a lot faster or gives better quality (i.e. improved encoding abilities)... it might make me consider a higher price point... (although not the $800+ range)
 

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Do we know how the RTX compare to the GTX boards for H265 encoding? I've only seen "game" benchmarks... I mean, sure a GTX1070 for $280 doesn't sound bad, but if an RTX2070 is a lot faster or gives better quality (i.e. improved encoding abilities)... it might make me consider a higher price point... (although not the $800+ range)

Quote:
Turing GPUs also ship with an enhanced NVENC encoder unit that adds support for H.265 (HEVC) 8K encode at 30 fps. The new NVENC encoder provides up to 25% bitrate savings for HEVC and up to 15% bitrate savings for H.264.

Turing’s new NVDEC decoder has also been updated to support decoding of HEVC YUV444 10/12b HDR at 30 fps, H.264 8K, and VP9 10/12b HDR.

Turing improves encoding quality compared to prior generation Pascal GPUs and compared to software encoders. Figure 11 shows that on common Twitch and YouTube streaming settings, Turing’s video encoder exceeds the quality of the x264 software-based encoder using the fast encode settings, with dramatically lower CPU utilization. 4K streaming is too heavy a workload for encoding on typical CPU setups, but Turing’s encoder makes 4K streaming possible.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-review/amp/

Im no expert but it doesn't sound like Touring is $300 better.
 

Mark_Venture

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Quote:
Turing GPUs also ship with an enhanced NVENC encoder unit that adds support for H.265 (HEVC) 8K encode at 30 fps. The new NVENC encoder provides up to 25% bitrate savings for HEVC and up to 15% bitrate savings for H.264.

Turing’s new NVDEC decoder has also been updated to support decoding of HEVC YUV444 10/12b HDR at 30 fps, H.264 8K, and VP9 10/12b HDR.

Turing improves encoding quality compared to prior generation Pascal GPUs and compared to software encoders. Figure 11 shows that on common Twitch and YouTube streaming settings, Turing’s video encoder exceeds the quality of the x264 software-based encoder using the fast encode settings, with dramatically lower CPU utilization. 4K streaming is too heavy a workload for encoding on typical CPU setups, but Turing’s encoder makes 4K streaming possible.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-review/amp/

Im no expert but it doesn't sound like Touring is $300 better.
Funny but at least two lines... are a direct quote from Nvidia.... https://devblogs.nvidia.com/nvidia-turing-architecture-in-depth/

"Turing GPUs also ship with an enhanced NVENC encoder unit that adds support for H.265 (HEVC) 8K encode at 30 fps. The new NVENC encoder provides up to 25% bitrate savings for HEVC and up to 15% bitrate savings for H.264.

Turing’s new NVDEC decoder has also been updated to support decoding of HEVC YUV444 10/12b HDR at 30 fps, H.264 8K, and VP9 10/12b HDR."

And some of those other statements are pretty darn close... Now I wonder if the WCCFTECH article is just an Nvidia plant or marking piece or did they just plagiarize?
 
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