I would buy one if I had disposable income and honestly didn't care about price/perf, it's a monster GPU with amazing 4k performance. My budget is half that so...So who is actually buying a GTX 2080ti ?
This launch has not been handled well IMO, but it would have been a disaster without the 2080 Ti. If 18 months after 1080 Ti was released the put out a card that was single digit %s faster with the non-reference FE clocks and basically tied for performance OCed for $100 more than the 1080 Ti launched at ($150 more than current good AIB pricing) the majority of the press would have eviscerated them.Now I understand why they had to include the 2080ti in the RTX launch (instead of several months later). The 2080 on its own would have elicited serious derision from the tech press as the first card that offers no performance advantage over last gens card at similar price point (1080ti).
I would buy one if I had disposable income and honestly didn't care about price/perf, it's a monster GPU with amazing 4k performance. My budget is half that so...
FP16?It's weird how well Turing performs in Wolfenstein 2. In any case, it does look like Turing would benefit from 7nm process. The tensor and rt cores take quit a bit of silicon space. It makes these cards so costly. DLSS does look interesting and it looks like it will take some time before we really know what's going on.
You really have to play a lot of DLSS games, like the results, and have faith that the 2080 has the strength needed for real time ray tracing in order to even consider a purchase.
Going to read more reviews tonight but looks like I may keep my order as it should smoke games at 1440p. Most games I play are above 60fps at 4k, tomb raider is the only one that sticks around 60 at 4k highest preset.So who is actually buying a GTX 2080ti ?
Yes but not all games can be played in 4k even with a RTX 2080 ti
Not just FP16. NVIDIA stated they improved Vulkan performance all over. Pascal cards are now comparable to Vega in Vulkan games like Doom and Wolf 2:FP16?
Did everyone only use 1080Ti FE for comparison? Did no one use a 1080 Ti AiB?
It's closer to 9% (4.15% for 1070) - https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ . But I agree with your opinion about developers hesitating to add the features (unless Nvidia pays them).You have to also have faith that developers will actually implement RT, which is looking very doubtful. All signs point to the 2060 and below not having RT cores, or if they do not being able to perform RT in anything close to playable FPS at 1080 resolution. If that is indeed the case I would not expect more then the few games that have already committed to implement it at all. If we look at the number of 1070 and 1080 cards currently in use (only around 4% of gaming systems have a 1070 or higher), and then take into account that the 20xx cards are even more expensive, we can conclude that there will be almost no useable RT capable cards actually in use this generation. Developers are not going to be eager to add in features that almost no one will be able to use.
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NV is definitely got an uphill battle with this. Will be interesting to see how they play it off. Internet outrage has a very limited time scope, and I wonder if they're betting on this. Can you guys still remember the backlash to Intel announcing the K-series of chips? Or the HEDT product split!? Kudos to NV if they bull it off, wake up call to Intel - this is your chance!
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Do you think people will stop being outraged about the huge jump in price?
At this point, nothing surprises me anymore.
Me, no, but the number of vocal users will reduce. Prices have been inching up with basically every new release. Until we get competition we're seeing the Intelization of the GPU side. NV is competing with themselves, and they basically started a war with themselves with the GTX 2080 vs GTX 1080 Ti. Do you want the option for RT for $100 or go for performance and save $100!?
I just read an article about the new iPhone being sexist. At this point, nothing surprises me anymore.
Anandtech being on time for GPU review would surprise you I bet!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07417FZS6/NVidia should have tried harder to get some game beta with DLSS to reviewers. It was the main feature I was interested in seeing third party detail on, instead of NVidia Hype. RT will take a long time to get right, but DLSS should be fairly straight forward.
But we got nothing except straight up performance in normal games, which doesn't looks good for NVidia. 2080Ti is at least the fastest GPU you can get, but 2080 is essentially identical to 1080Ti in reviews I saw.
It also looks like there won't be any need to drop 1080Ti prices. Since 2080 performs exactly the same and starts at $800. It even looks like 1080Ti prices have inched back up a bit. Lowest 1080Ti price I see is $700 now, when I am pretty sure there were some around $650 before.
No kidding. When I saw this thread had posts (ie meaning reviews are out) I hit up anandtech, and nothing. Not even a place holder. Such a shame. RIP Anandtech of old. I grew up on AT, now I'm checking Gamernexus for "in depth" coverage. Feels weird.