Nvidia: The Power of 3--August 11 release date

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Excelsior

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Originally posted by: rise4310
yeah, must be the rest of the line. damn ati better get their butt in gear. this is getting ugly.

Why? ATI isn't in trouble, ok? The market is dominated by low-mid end products, not cards like the 7800.
 

bjc112

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Originally posted by: rise4310
yeah, must be the rest of the line. damn ati better get their butt in gear. this is getting ugly.

I hear that..


The R520 better really come through, or there will be trouble..

A strong release of the R520, and they should be able to gain some ground back, if not, nVidia is going to drop the hammer.
 

rise

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: rise4310
yeah, must be the rest of the line. damn ati better get their butt in gear. this is getting ugly.

Why? ATI isn't in trouble, ok? The market is dominated by low-mid end products, not cards like the 7800.

you're right things are really looking up for them

j/k, i wasn't implying they were ready to close their doors.

i'm just saying they look bad right now. at least they made some headlines with another 800 card, that oughta keep the faithful happy, lol.
 

Acanthus

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Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Originally posted by: Hard Ball
Originally posted by: Insomniak

What would really be trippy is if they managed some kind of three-way SLI deal.

The only way they would be able to do that if the third card was using the PCIE X1 slot, since no mobo today has three 16X slots, nor is there any planned for the near future.

What would make more sense is that the 7800GT is released with on shelf availability, along with the announcement of 7800Ultra to arrive with the R520.

Well it is not the fact that there isn't 3 slots. Somone could make that if they so desire. However, the Northbridge simply does not support enough PCI-E lanes. IIRC it supports 25. So you have your x16, and your x8, and your x1.

Time for a new chipset

8/8/8/1 = 25....
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Maybe they are releasing drives that fix the video overlay problems from the last release.

Theres been an easy fix for that since the day those drivers were released.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: xtknight
If the mobo manufacturers have 25 lanes of PCI-E and there's a demand for 3x SLI, then why don't they just do x8-x8-x8-x1? That would be a hell of a lot better than x16-x8-x1.

you beat me to it

Edit: Its going to be the Ultra and GT i think, 3 GPU SLI would be a driver nightmare for SFR, and it would be a nitch market and a half now instead of just a nitch market. 3GPUs? what the hell CPU is gonna push 3 7800 Ultras in SLI?

It is well known that NV has a ton of clockspeed headroom for both the core and the memory on the GTX, so the ultra may be quite impressive.

It is also well known that the 20 pipe 7800GT is just waiting on 6800GT stock to sell off. And with the size of the GTX core im sure theres tons of chips with one defective quad waiting to be sold off.
 

R3MF

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Oct 19, 2004
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my guess for the power of three:

7800GTX = 24x430
7800GT = 20x400
7800 = 16x370

if and when the 520 ever arrives then nVidia will pull out:
7800U = 24x490

 

Maximilian

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From their FAQ

"Q: Is there a GeForce 7800 Ultra?
GeForce 7800 GTX is our top of the line. We had so much positive response for the GT SKU (single slot, great performance) that we wanted to build upon that success and brand. GeForce 7800 GTX takes NVIDIA's high end performance offering to the next level."

I think this means no, GTX is the best.
 

REMF

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they can't admit to an Ultra now cos it would piss of people who have just bought a GTX.

but in three or four months time when the 520 arrives nVidia will explain that improved yields have allowed an even better performing part which coincidentally, matches/exceeds the speed of the 520.

i'm sticking with my guess.
 

knyghtbyte

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Originally posted by: R3MF
my guess for the power of three:

7800GTX = 24x430
7800GT = 20x400
7800 = 16x370

if and when the 520 ever arrives then nVidia will pull out:
7800U = 24x490

um, cant remember if it was BFG or the other one now, but there is already a card for sale clocked at 490 core.....lol

so an ultra would have to be over 500 core to be worth thinking about....

im reckoning its more likely to be a 512Mb GTX coming out....so Doom 3 will look absolutely stunning, but still be a boring game...lol
 

Topweasel

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I going to guess and say if they release a better card the might go with

7900 GTX Highend
7900 GT Lower Clocked Highend
7900 ?/SLI Entry level high end (Pipelines disabled)

Clock speed

7900 GT < 7900 ?/SLI < 7900 GTX
 

JBT

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Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
Originally posted by: R3MF
my guess for the power of three:

7800GTX = 24x430
7800GT = 20x400
7800 = 16x370

if and when the 520 ever arrives then nVidia will pull out:
7800U = 24x490

um, cant remember if it was BFG or the other one now, but there is already a card for sale clocked at 490 core.....lol

so an ultra would have to be over 500 core to be worth thinking about....

im reckoning its more likely to be a 512Mb GTX coming out....so Doom 3 will look absolutely stunning, but still be a boring game...lol

Both XFX and eVGA have 490 core clocks on some of their GTX's So yeah it will have to be above 490 for an Ultra model.
 

Crescent13

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I think it either means they are coming out with some sort of triple SLI, or they are going to be releasing the 7800 vanilla, 7800GT and 7800 ultra all in the same day.
 

tbooth

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Originally posted by: sandorski
1) Video
2) Motherboard chipsets
3) Audio

Id say more, but my ass is empty.

Actually this was the first thing that came to my mind too. I would love to see a soundcard . But yeah, its probably an expanded 7800 Lineup.

 

R3MF

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Oct 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: JBT
Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
Originally posted by: R3MF
my guess for the power of three:

7800GTX = 24x430
7800GT = 20x400
7800 = 16x370

if and when the 520 ever arrives then nVidia will pull out:
7800U = 24x490

um, cant remember if it was BFG or the other one now, but there is already a card for sale clocked at 490 core.....lol

so an ultra would have to be over 500 core to be worth thinking about....

im reckoning its more likely to be a 512Mb GTX coming out....so Doom 3 will look absolutely stunning, but still be a boring game...lol

Both XFX and eVGA have 490 core clocks on some of their GTX's So yeah it will have to be above 490 for an Ultra model.
whatever the exact clockspeeds, do you agree with my reasoning?
 

mcmikemc

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Maybe they are releasing drives that fix the video overlay problems from the last release.

Theres been an easy fix for that since the day those drivers were released.

Got a link for it?

The only fix I have found is going into the video card option and changing the overlay then restoring it to default. This works great but if I restart my PC I have to do it again. If there is a fix where I don't have to do it every time I restart me PC I am all ears.
 

So

Lifer
Jul 2, 2001
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Dollars to doughnuts, it's two new cards -- a 7800GT and an Ultra, to round out their lineup to three. Or maybe it's 3 new cards, including a vanilla 7800. <shrug>

If it's a new piece of hardware entirely, I'll eat my hat (and I don't even HAVE a hat).
 

wetech

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Jul 16, 2002
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"The Power of 3"

Isn't it obvious? they're releasing Playstation 3 on Aug 11... geez.
 

tbooth

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Brent Justice at the HardForums says that someone in the first 3.5 (well actually page 1.5-3.5 ) pages of this thread has guessed correctly what the power of 3 is.
 
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