Sniper Elite 4 at 4K resolution with Dx12 and Async Compute allowed our CrossFire RX 580 + RX 480 combo to outperform a reference 1080 Ti thanks to fringe multi-GPU optimization in this game
This thing clearly isn’t best used for gaming. Again, that won’t stop people from buying it because it’s “the best,” and nVidia does still advertise its gaming capabilities a few times on the product page.
The thing is, at $200 per percentage point gained in some of these games, it’s a pretty tough argument. You’re talking differences that are nearly obscured by standard deviation test-to-test, even when accounting for excursions from the mean; in fact, in some cases, the AIB partner model 1080 Ti cards clock high enough that performance is effectively identical to the Titan Xp. This becomes even more true when accounting for manufacturing variance chip-to-chip.
Overclocking does keep the TiXp on top of the charts, but it’s often minimal. Sniper Elite is the only game where the TiXp saw any reasonable lead over the 1080 Ti, but even then, it’s not a good bargain.
If buying this for the extra 1GB VRAM for code execution with neural nets and deep learning, we’d advise looking up reviews for that application. This card may well be a performance king in that department, particularly at the price. For our audience, though, we simply cannot recommend the Titan Xp for gaming use cases. A 1080 Ti makes far more sense.
I've seen plenty of people who refuse to put them under water. I put my Ti under water and it likely beats a stock Xp. But yeah it would be nice to see one pushed to 2.1Ghz or so without throttling.I'd be interested to see results for putting a Titan Xp on water as that might allow it to widen the gap. If you're going to spend $1200 on a GPU, what's an few hundred more for a good water cooling solution?
Yeah it was quite obvious how horrible of a purchase the new Xp was. Those who buy it lack common sense or just want the biggest epeen.
I haven't seen anyone present a credible opinion as to why the gap is so much bigger in Sniper Elite 4.
I don't think its much of an epeen or as how I see it is if one has the money to get whatever they desire, why not splurge and get the best. If I had enough money to get all the lastest things that come out that would like to have trust me I would get the best and it would not be to show off etc. But im different though and I would not deny that some people do it for epeen.
Because all of the hardware is being fully utilized. I mean look at 480 + 580 beating out a 1080 Ti. That is just crazy.
Fury X is hanging out near the 1080 as well @ 4k
Well I have to say, it does seem this game is freakishly well optimized. It seems the cards are lined up accurately when you compared their theoretical FP32 output.
I'd be interested to see results for putting a Titan Xp on water as that might allow it to widen the gap. If you're going to spend $1200 on a GPU, what's an few hundred more for a good water cooling solution?
I would not say the AMD cards achieve anywhere close to theoretical FP32 performance. They still suffer from the same poor sp utilization in both DX11 and DX12. The difference is the game has an excellent DX12 implementation. AMD cards gain a lot of performance going from DX11 to DX12. Nvidia gains lesser but thats because their DX11 performance is kick ass. Anyway Sniper Elite 4 is one of the rare games where DX12 performance is better for both AMD and Nvidia compared to DX11.
But since it only comes in the reference design, is there not more than the cooling holding it back?I'd be interested to see results for putting a Titan Xp on water as that might allow it to widen the gap. If you're going to spend $1200 on a GPU, what's an few hundred more for a good water cooling solution?
Bit silly to think the value question is to be applied equally to a high end product vs a mid-range. It isnt exclusive to GPUs, but luxury cars, hi-end audio, watches and many other products. Not sure which elicits more indignation, Nvidia $1200 GPUs or $3,000 audio cables.
But since it only comes in the reference design, is there not more than the cooling holding it back?
I mean does the reference board have good enough power delivery to compete with aftermarket 1080Ti designs?
Certainly Nvidia's F's Edition designs are not known for being over-spec'ed.
Two wrongs, etc. Plus, we're not discussing cars and audio, we're discussing video cards.Bit silly to think the value question is to be applied equally to a high end product vs a mid-range. It isnt exclusive to GPUs, but luxury cars, hi-end audio, watches and many other products. Not sure which elicits more indignation, Nvidia $1200 GPUs or $3,000 audio cables.