NVidia Titan Xp Review vs. 1080 Ti: $200 Per Percentage Point Gained [GamersNexus]

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mohit9206

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If Xp was even 30% faster its price could be justified. But the fact is you are paying $500 more for an extra gig of ram.
People who are simply buying it for gaming are stupid. But if one needs the compute capabilities then its fine.
 

amenx

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Two wrongs, etc. Plus, we're not discussing cars and audio, we're discussing video cards.
Its a product (like many other products) with a value aspect that is being discussed. Its also a high end product that is governed by the same fundamentals that characterize other high end products, being that value is less a proposition when compared to other 'more affordable' products. You can ignore that and pretend that it is the only product where its buyers are idiots for not buying cheaper alternatives (regardless of whether they can afford it) if it makes you feel any better, which I presume is the only direction some posters wish to focus on.
 

mohit9206

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I've been thinking of getting a 3rd Titan Xp to use as a PhysX card.
You could donate that money to charity or feed some poor kids or something like that. A good deed once in a while can mean a lot to someone else.
 

IllogicalGlory

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Its a product (like many other products) with a value aspect that is being discussed. Its also a high end product that is governed by the same fundamentals that characterize other high end products, being that value is less a proposition when compared to other 'more affordable' products. You can ignore that and pretend that it is the only product where its buyers are idiots for not buying cheaper alternatives (regardless of whether they can afford it) if it makes you feel any better, which I presume is the only direction some posters wish to focus on.
I do actually mostly agree with you about the Titan Xp. There's no real problem with it when the 1080 Ti is available and the 1080 is down to <$500. The points were more salient back when the 1080/1070 were new and also when the Titan XP was the only GP102 product.

Right now the Pascal stack is mostly reasonably priced, (it's a tad higher than is desirable, at least in the US, but not too bad) but it's annoying that it only happens near the tail end. It's a very profitable release paradigm and it is exploitative, I agree that NV is well within their rights to do so, but I also think that it should be acknowledged.
 

mohit9206

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I do actually mostly agree with you about the Titan Xp. There's no real problem with it when the 1080 Ti is available and the 1080 is down to <$500. The points were more salient back when the 1080/1070 were new and also when the Titan XP was the only GP102 product.

Right now the Pascal stack is mostly reasonably priced, (it's a tad higher than is desirable, at least in the US, but not too bad) but it's annoying that it only happens near the tail end. It's a very profitable release paradigm and it is exploitative, I agree that NV is well within their rights to do so, but I also think that it should be acknowledged.

Nvidia fans(hardcore ones) will not acknowledge this but instead blame amd for lack of competition. This is only partly true because there is also a thing called business ethics and morals which nvidia doesn't seem to be following (with its titan cards).
 

KompuKare

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If Xp was even 30% faster its price could be justified. But the fact is you are paying $500 more for an extra gig of ram.
People who are simply buying it for gaming are stupid. But if one needs the compute capabilities then its fine.

Eh? Is there any difference in compute between 1080Ti and Titan XP? I though that was only a feature difference with the original Kepler ones (Titan/Titan Black vs GTX780/GTX780Ti)?

Certainly the wikipedia listing on Titan XP lists DP as 332 and 317 (1080Ti and Titan X Pascal - Titan XP lists '? (380)) which is right where shaders & frequency places them and is 1/32 of the SP performance. Only GP100 has the high DP rate (1/2 I think).

So unless Titan XP has some different drivers it is no better for compute than 1080Ti.
 

AdamK47

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You could donate that money to charity or feed some poor kids or something like that. A good deed once in a while can mean a lot to someone else.

That's a short sighted statement. Me buying another Titan Xp for use as a PhysX card would by far benefit the world better than any charity donation.
 
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That's a short sighted statement. Me buying another Titan Xp for use as a PhysX card would by far benefit the world better than any charity donation.

It's true. Buying a Titan Xp helps to feed the people involved in shipping the product to you, the people involved in distributing it to you, the people involved in the assembly of the final board, the people who make the components on the PCB, the people who designed the chip, and the people who manufactured the chip.

To name a few.
 

96Firebird

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You could donate that money to charity or feed some poor kids or something like that. A good deed once in a while can mean a lot to someone else.

I expect you to sell your computer, along with any other internet capable devices, and donate any proceeds to the charity of your choice. A good deed once in a while can mean a lot to someone else.

If you continue to post here, that means you don't care about the needy.

*crosses fingers*
 

OatisCampbell

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Nvidia fans(hardcore ones) will not acknowledge this but instead blame amd for lack of competition. This is only partly true because there is also a thing called business ethics and morals which nvidia doesn't seem to be following (with its titan cards).
Huh? What you're talking about has nothing to do with business ethics and morals.
There isn't a company on the planet who wouldn't raise their prices in times of competitive advantage.
You might have a point if people actually needed NVIDIA's products and they were price gouging, but NV's products are a luxury item. You could game on a smart phone, console, Intel CPU, or AMD gpu. Being able to game at 4k in high detail is not necessary, its a niche luxury market like having the fastest car 0-60, or the TV with the highest contrast.
AMD has done the exact same sort of pricing in their history with the FX CPUs, Intel has with the extreme CPUs.
Its just the nature of business.
 

PowerK

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LOL. Don't bring up PhysX here.
It's been a long time I noticed and cared for PhysX games. In fact, I don't even install PhysX component when I install GeForce drivers. Been like this over the last 3~4 years.

 

chimaxi83

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While I agree that some of these cards are just an unnecessarily stupid purchase, in the grand scheme of adult hobbies, this is cheap as f@!#.

Of course AT has Nvidia zealots that go off the deep end. Oh, and the resident braggarts.
 
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