nVidia to launch DirectX10 in November?

[ebeattie]

Wait a minute, Vista isnt going to be native DX10 out of the box? WEAK!!!!!!!!! Im keeping my WinXP and Im going to wipe the crap outta game swith the 7950 GX2 and damnit aint no Vista gonna hold me down! muahahahahah!

......

In closing, I do hope that the G80 is a DX9 monster and my $500 (remember folks, I didnt eat for 3 weeks for this thing) 7950 GX2 will give me some leverage (read only need 200 more bucks) when EVGA releases the G80s. I can only hope that there is another 7950 GX2-like card released with the G80.

Remember, use your Step Up wisely, as the card you get THROUGH step up IS NOT ELIGIBLE for another step up.

 

[BassBomb]

People proclaiming massive price gouge, hold on there jethro.... this situation is similar to when 6800 came out.... a feature set that the competition didnt have, while performing pretty well in the feature set comparable with similar prices

I do not expect gouging (unless demand is high compared to supply). And like I said before, if they cannot come out with a new product at a price point in my ballpark by my proposed purchase time, I am likely going to get a X1900XT 256.

 

[Matt2]

I dont expect price gouging at all, well, maybe the first week, maybe.

Nvidia has been planning this product and its launch for a long time now. They're ahead of ATI, so why would they launch a product if they didnt have the supply to back it up?

We're gonna see a 7-Series vintage hard launch.

 

[Zebo]

DX10 is the new A64/EMT64 , sounds good, but hardly anyone will be using it. No games, no OS yet and when Vista gets here it'll be a bloated POS and you won't need DX10 cards to play DX10 games even if they make them someday - there will be s DX9 path avail. Going to be funny you guys buying $600 cards an sell them for the next faster card by the time DX10 is really ready for prime time.

Go with GTO's - With GTO's out now , making obsolete the 7900GT. 7950GT and 7900GTX - that card will keep you happy for at least 6 months and two of them in SLI @$500 will be faster than anything NV or ATI soon releases for $600-$700. In the meantime you have a good fast time.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: Zebo
DX10 is the new A64/EMT64 , sounds good, but hardly anyone uses it. No games, no OS yet and when Vista gets here it'll be a bloated POS and you won't need DX10 cards to play DX10 games even if they make them someday - there will be s DX9 path avail. Going to be funny you guys buying $600 cards an sell them for the next faster card by the time DX10 is really ready for prime time.

Go with GTO's - With GTO's out now , making obsolete the 7900GT. 7950GT and 7900GTX - that card will keep you happy for at least 6 months and two of them in SLI @$500 will be faster than anything NV or ATI soon releases for $600-$700.

We're gonna buy G80 FOR it's DX9 performance. Not it's DX10 performance.

If the truth is anything like the specs, we're gonna see G80 wipe the floor with the GeForce 7-Series and anything ATI has to offer at the moment.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: Zebo
DX10 is the new A64/EMT64 , sounds good, but hardly anyone uses it. No games, no OS yet and when Vista gets here it'll be a bloated POS and you won't need DX10 cards to play DX10 games even if they make them someday - there will be s DX9 path avail. Going to be funny you guys buying $600 cards an sell them for the next faster card by the time DX10 is really ready for prime time.

Go with GTO's - With GTO's out now , making obsolete the 7900GT. 7950GT and 7900GTX - that card will keep you happy for at least 6 months and two of them in SLI @$500 will be faster than anything NV or ATI soon releases for $600-$700.

We're gonna buy G80 FOR it's DX9 performance. Not it's DX10 performance.

If the truth is anything like the specs, we're gonna see G80 wipe the floor with the GeForce 7-Series and anything ATI has to offer at the moment.

what other reason could there be? . . . DX10 looks to be useless until Vista is patched . . . and even then there will only be pretty demos.

the only thing i'd possible do is wait till r600 is released . . . IF i could wait

[and i'm outta this race . . . count me 'in' with the next gen of DX10 cards - not the refresh ]

 

[Zebo]

MAtt - I think you'll be underwhemed. Two SLI GTX's (GTOs) will beat any single G80 and use less power.

But maybe I'm wrong? So What? If you get two EVGA's GTO's you get $500 twards G80 and still enjoy yourself right now.

 

[Matt2]

I think you're being too conservative with your estimates of G80.

At launch a 7800GTX was just as fast, sometimes a little faster, sometimes a little slower than 6800 Ultra SLI.

And architecturally, G70 is the inbred brother of NV40.

With G80 we're talking about a brand new architecture that Nvidia spent $250 million dollars developing.

I think better than 7900GTX SLI performance isnt that far fetched.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2
I think you're being too conservative with your estimates of G80.

At launch a 7800GTX was just as fast, sometimes a little faster, sometimes a little slower than 6800 Ultra SLI.

And architecturally, G70 is the inbred brother of NV40.

With G80 we're talking about a brand new architecture that Nvidia spent $250 million dollars developing.

I think better than 7900GTX SLI performance isnt that far fetched.

i think you're both speculating

mid November isn't far off.

edit: wasn't the DustBuster "brand new architecture"?
:Q

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Matt2
I think you're being too conservative with your estimates of G80.

At launch a 7800GTX was just as fast, sometimes a little faster, sometimes a little slower than 6800 Ultra SLI.

And architecturally, G70 is the inbred brother of NV40.

With G80 we're talking about a brand new architecture that Nvidia spent $250 million dollars developing.

I think better than 7900GTX SLI performance isnt that far fetched.

i think you're both speculating

mid November isn't far off.

edit: wasn't the DustBuster "brand new architecture"?
:Q

Yes it was, but I think Nvidia has put that dark year behind them.

Speculation is what fuels the mind until its time to burn a hole in your wallet.

 

[BFG10K]

I'm personally not interested in DirectX10 as much as I am of the alleged AA improvements.

Will the new GPU still have native DirectX 9 support (not emulated)? What about OpenGL?

Absolutely - it's no different to DX8 cards running DX7 & OpenGL applications without issue.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Zebo
MAtt - I think you'll be underwhemed. Two SLI GTX's (GTOs) will beat any single G80 and use less power.

LOL, keep dreaming. If the 8800 can't beat SLI'd GTX's it will be a flop.

Did you invest in 7900GTX SLI?

 

[apoppin]

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Yes apoppin, I know, Nvidia and NV30 blew monkey balls. That why I owned a 9700Pro!

But you have to admit, Nvidia has come a looooooooong ways from the dustbuster debacle.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Yes apoppin, I know, Nvidia and NV30 blew monkey balls. That why I owned a 9700Pro!

But you have to admit, Nvidia has come a looooooooong ways from the dustbuster debacle.

ALL i am saying is that extreme expectations tend to bring extreme disappointment.

and i already said i doubt nvidia will do badly . . . the only thing i am thinking is that ATi does have an advantage with DX10 - over nvidia - by working closely with M$.

 

[Matt2]

Extreme expactations huh?

How's this for extreme:

G80 blows the doors off everything on the market, even quad-sli.

R600 is yet another ATI chip plauged by production problems and delays and is no where near G80 performance.

AMD is appauled by the lack of sales and effectively removes the ATI product line from the enthusiast sector and produces IGP products only.

HA!

 

[Nightmare225]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Extreme expactations huh?

How's this for extreme:

G80 blows the doors off everything on the market, even quad-sli.

R600 is yet another ATI chip plauged by production problems and delays and is no where near G80 performance.

AMD is appauled by the lack of sales and effectively removes the ATI product line from the enthusiast sector and produces IGP products only.

HA!

If you didn't own an ATI product, I would have been slightly angry at you.

 

[Matt2]

Is till think Nvidia is gonna pull this one out. They're due for a big release.

 

[Zenoth]

Just out of curiosity (no sarcasm, I just really want to know, if information is available), is it known if G80's architecture is similar to, or the exact same than the PlayStation 3's RSX ?

 

[Matt2]

RSX is an underclocked 7900GTX as far as I know.

G80 is completely different designed from the ground up.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Extreme expactations huh?

How's this for extreme:

G80 blows the doors off everything on the market, even quad-sli.

R600 is yet another ATI chip plauged by production problems and delays and is no where near G80 performance.

AMD is appauled by the lack of sales and effectively removes the ATI product line from the enthusiast sector and produces IGP products only.

HA!

'yet another'

howz this . . . ATi is later than nvidia because they have a much more efficient architecture and can afford to release it at what ever core/memory speed they choose to match their competitors' product performance at a lower price . . . making record profits for AMD/ATi
:shocked:

i guess anything can happen

i predict that G80 and r600 will be quite different architecturally . . . that ATi's will be more efficient but nvidia's solution will have "more everything" to compensate . . . and that ultimately they will perform competitively in games.

 

[ebeattie]

I just hope that Nvidia hard launches this stuff, they CANNOT have another NV30 fiasco.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ebeattie
I just hope that Nvidia hard launches this stuff, they CANNOT have another NV30 fiasco.

sure they can . .

if r600 is much faster . . .

. . .

someone will buy 'em
:Q

they make really nice chipsets

 

[m21s]

How long before we see "real" specs?

When all the other generation cards came out, how long before they launched did we see "real" confirmed specs.

Seeing we are about a month away, should we see something soon?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: m21s
How long before we see "real" specs?

When all the other generation cards came out, how long before they launched did we see "real" confirmed specs.

Seeing we are about a month away, should we see something soon?

everything will be 'leaks' until nvidia lifts the NDA

sometimes day of the launch . . . sometimes there is an official "preview" a couple of weeks early