nVidia to launch DirectX10 in November?

[m21s]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: m21s
How long before we see "real" specs?

When all the other generation cards came out, how long before they launched did we see "real" confirmed specs.

Seeing we are about a month away, should we see something soon?

everything will be 'leaks' until nvidia lifts the NDA

sometimes day of the launch . . . sometimes there is an official "preview" a couple of weeks early

I'm assuming this is how it's been even for the previous releases.

I really wish they would throw us something

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Matt2
With G80 we're talking about a brand new architecture that Nvidia spent $250 million dollars developing.

I think better than 7900GTX SLI performance isnt that far fetched.

700 million transistors gotta be used for something, right? I think 2X the performance of 7900GTX is a decent estimate (for the 8800GTX version, or whatever Nvidia calls it).

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: m21s

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: m21s
How long before we see "real" specs?

When all the other generation cards came out, how long before they launched did we see "real" confirmed specs.

Seeing we are about a month away, should we see something soon?

everything will be 'leaks' until nvidia lifts the NDA

sometimes day of the launch . . . sometimes there is an official "preview" a couple of weeks early

I'm assuming this is how it's been even for the previous releases.

I really wish they would throw us something

part of their 'marketing' includes building excitement and anticipation for their product . . . they ARE feeding us 'tidbits' . . . we now know it will launch mid-Nov for sure - as has been speculated [and which i doubted].

we also got some hints of 'how big' and perhaps a look at an engineering sample

pretty soon we will see "leaked" performance reports and 3Dmark scores.

nvidia also know not to tip off ATi too early . . . they want them to be UNable to make major changes to their forthcoming product.

cool game

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Zebo
MAtt - I think you'll be underwhemed. Two SLI GTX's (GTOs) will beat any single G80 and use less power.

LOL, keep dreaming. If the 8800 can't beat SLI'd GTX's it will be a flop.

Did you invest in 7900GTX SLI?

Close GT's made into GTX 256MB and I'm set for another year @ 16x10.... just like anyone buying two GTOs would be no matter how fast 8800 is. The only way it will be faster is if they cheat and have two cores on the card. No way will a single core beat GTX SLI. Never has from a previous gen. Was 7800GTX faster than 6800 Ultra Sli? Nope. Was 7900GTX faster than 7800 GTX Sli? No way.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: ebeattie
I just hope that Nvidia hard launches this stuff, they CANNOT have another NV30 fiasco.

sure they can . .

if r600 is much faster . . .

. . .

someone will buy 'em
:Q

they make really nice chipsets

Haha too bad no ones buying NV chipsets as long as AMD's not making any good processors..

Prediction NV declares bankruptcy after Dust Buster II aka 8800GTX and chipset market drying up

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Funny how the fanatics just can't seem to forget nv30 isn't it? evn though most of them had R300's and had no intention of actually purchasing it, even if it was good? No suprise to see such reminiscing occuring in a thread about future nvidia chips either... :disgust:

Even more intersting when the fanatic in question tells us in an earlier post he has no interest in this upcomming gen or cards * or* the refrehses thereof...

 

[ebeattie]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: ebeattie
I just hope that Nvidia hard launches this stuff, they CANNOT have another NV30 fiasco.

sure they can . .

if r600 is much faster . . .

. . .

someone will buy 'em
:Q

they make really nice chipsets

Haha too bad no ones buying NV chipsets as long as AMD's not making any good processors..

Prediction NV declares bankruptcy after Dust Buster II aka 8800GTX and chipset market drying up

booooo!!!!!! /\ /\ /

hehehe

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Funny how the fanatics just can't seem to forget nv30 isn't it? evn though most of them had R300's and had no intention of actually purchasing it, even if it was good? No suprise to see such reminiscing occuring in a thread about future nvidia chips either... :disgust:

Even more intersting when the fanatic in question tells us in an earlier post he has no interest in this upcomming gen or cards * or* the refrehses thereof...

you are really not worth talking to

everyone else understands

 

[Zebo]

Yeah Lighten up

 

[Matt2]

This means war!

Green war paint on the left, red on the right.

Dont forget your torches.

 

[josh6079]

I brought the spears!!

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: josh6079
I brought the spears!!

Britney!?

:Q

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Close GT's made into GTX 256MB and I'm set for another year @ 16x10.... just like anyone buying two GTOs would be no matter how fast 8800 is. The only way it will be faster is if they cheat and have two cores on the card. No way will a single core beat GTX SLI. Never has from a previous gen. Was 7800GTX faster than 6800 Ultra Sli? Nope. Was 7900GTX faster than 7800 GTX Sli? No way.

Actually, according to this review, 7800GTX was faster than 6800 Ultra SLI. (I just quickly scanned through of all the 1600x1200 with 4X AA tests). Except for Doom 3, 7800GTX equals (2-3fps margin) or outperforms the 6800 Ultra SLI setup. As 7900GTX was just a refresh of 7800GTX, no one expected miracles there.

Expecting something similar out of G80 isn't that unreasonable, I think

 

[ebeattie]

/puts on helmet


hehe

seriously though, BF2, BF2142 and Need For Speed Carbon are the only games Im prolly gonna be playing for the next year to year and a half. So........ yeah, getting two 8800GTX's for SLI! muahahahaha

edit: Who here thinks that these new cards will require a BIOS update?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Zebo

Close GT's made into GTX 256MB and I'm set for another year @ 16x10.... just like anyone buying two GTOs would be no matter how fast 8800 is. The only way it will be faster is if they cheat and have two cores on the card. No way will a single core beat GTX SLI. Never has from a previous gen. Was 7800GTX faster than 6800 Ultra Sli? Nope. Was 7900GTX faster than 7800 GTX Sli? No way.

Actually, according to this review, 7800GTX was faster than 6800 Ultra SLI. (I just quickly scanned through of all the 1600x1200 with 4X AA tests). Except for Doom 3, 7800GTX equals (2-3fps margin) or outperforms the 6800 Ultra SLI setup. As 7900GTX was just a refresh of 7800GTX, no one expected miracles there.

Expecting something similar out of G80 isn't that unreasonable, I think

I would'nt put much faith in those early beta SLI drivers plus the games they test is very few.

Much later review with SLI fully working and beating crap out of 7800GTX
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/print/ati-crossfire.html

 

[Gstanfor]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Funny how the fanatics just can't seem to forget nv30 isn't it? evn though most of them had R300's and had no intention of actually purchasing it, even if it was good? No suprise to see such reminiscing occuring in a thread about future nvidia chips either... :disgust:

Even more intersting when the fanatic in question tells us in an earlier post he has no interest in this upcomming gen or cards * or* the refrehses thereof...

you are really not worth talking to

everyone else understands

There is nothing "to understand" appopin. You could discuss g80 without mentioning nv30 at all, or stating any of a number of things that you have in this thread so far, but that's not what yo uare here for is it? So far as I can tell you are filling in for Ackmed...

 

[Cookie Monster]

The chinese slide said 2x Pixel shader performance from past gen. They could be talking about 7950GX2 you know.

 

[BFG10K]

The chinese slide said 2x Pixel shader performance from past gen. They could be talking about 7950GX2 you know.

I would say so because with the card's rumoured two cores 2x performance over a 7900GTX would be about the speed of 7900GTX SLI. I would expect more from the card than just 7900GTX SLI on one board.

 

[Nirach]

I don't suppose anyone saw the picture on bit-tech that is supposed to be a G80?

With the dual PCI-E power sockets?

http://www.bit-tech.net/news_images/nvi...80_launch_mid-november/article_img.jpg If you missed it. I don't know how much rumour/BE that picture is, but it doesn't sound too farfetched... How many of us have quad PCI-E power connectors on our PSU's without doublers/converters from 4-pin molex?

I hope the G80 is good, to be honest. If it's good, then perhaps ATi will cough something equally good out. But then, one never knows, which is a royal pain in the ass

 

[fierydemise]

If nVidia isn't careful they may have an R520 on their hands, killed by high expectations. Remember before R520 came out everyone was clambering about a 32 pipe monster that would smash anything nVidia had on the market, when that never showed up people bashed ATI for under performing when R520 was actually faster then all single card competition. I'm not saying it won't be fast but if your expecting twice the speed of a GX2 you'll probably end up disappointed.

 

[flexy]

Originally posted by: Skott
Just saw this. Not sure if anyone else has so putting it up for FYI


http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/10/02/nvidia_dx10/

"NVIDIA to launch DX10 in November"

what a WEIRD thread subject...especially since i and every other Vista user already HAS DX10 installed (want a dxconfig screenshot ?).....and anyway DX is not released by NV but instead by Microsoft

 

[imported_RedStar]

ATi has an advantage with directX 10 over nvidia only because their r600 is already second generation --Xenos being the 1st.

Even DX9 games will be a min. of 20% faster under Vista than without. WHY? Well, because MS has totally redone the drivers to remove the large overhead gumming up game performance. You will be able to enjoy directX 10 benefits as soon as vista ships (since the drivers will be optimized by then vs the beta affair). Now whether you want to wait a couple years and miss out on directX 10 benefits is your own affair.

Dx9 has still not totally been realised even now ...but has that stopped you people from playing dx9 games?

 

[theprodigalrebel]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel

Originally posted by: Zebo

Close GT's made into GTX 256MB and I'm set for another year @ 16x10.... just like anyone buying two GTOs would be no matter how fast 8800 is. The only way it will be faster is if they cheat and have two cores on the card. No way will a single core beat GTX SLI. Never has from a previous gen. Was 7800GTX faster than 6800 Ultra Sli? Nope. Was 7900GTX faster than 7800 GTX Sli? No way.

Actually, according to this review, 7800GTX was faster than 6800 Ultra SLI. (I just quickly scanned through of all the 1600x1200 with 4X AA tests). Except for Doom 3, 7800GTX equals (2-3fps margin) or outperforms the 6800 Ultra SLI setup. As 7900GTX was just a refresh of 7800GTX, no one expected miracles there.

Expecting something similar out of G80 isn't that unreasonable, I think

I would'nt put much faith in those early beta SLI drivers plus the games they test is very few.

Much later review with SLI fully working and beating crap out of 7800GTX
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/print/ati-crossfire.html

Hey, thanks for the link. It cleared up a major misinformation. Thanks Zebo.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: apoppin

ah yes . . . NV30 . . . brand new architecture to run DX9 and to compete with r300 [9700p] . . .

nvidia launched NVIDIA's NV30 chip, better known as the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra . . . after spending BIG bucks . . . ta da . . .

the DustBuster

in case you forgot, Matt . . .
What's under the Dustbuster?

i seriously doubt it will happen again . . . but then ATi might be preparing a surprise . . .

Funny how the fanatics just can't seem to forget nv30 isn't it? evn though most of them had R300's and had no intention of actually purchasing it, even if it was good? No suprise to see such reminiscing occuring in a thread about future nvidia chips either... :disgust:

Even more intersting when the fanatic in question tells us in an earlier post he has no interest in this upcomming gen or cards * or* the refrehses thereof...

you are really not worth talking to

everyone else understands

There is nothing "to understand" appopin. You could discuss g80 without mentioning nv30 at all, or stating any of a number of things that you have in this thread so far, but that's not what yo uare here for is it? So far as I can tell you are filling in for Ackmed...

so now your back to prove you're 100% clueless.
:Q

as i said, everyone else understands

. . . and you are trying to fill in for Rollo . . . too bad . .. you don't have his skills
:thumbsdown:
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Originally posted by: RedStar
ATi has an advantage with directX 10 over nvidia only because their r600 is already second generation --Xenos being the 1st.

Even DX9 games will be a min. of 20% faster under Vista than without. WHY? Well, because MS has totally redone the drivers to remove the large overhead gumming up game performance. You will be able to enjoy directX 10 benefits as soon as vista ships (since the drivers will be optimized by then vs the beta affair). Now whether you want to wait a couple years and miss out on directX 10 benefits is your own affair.

Vista evidently does NOT ship with DX10 . . . it will be DX9 . . . DX10 comes in an "update"

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20061002A2007.html

Since DirectX 10 is positioned as a Vista-only solution, with presumably no ability to work with previous Windows versions, Nvidia's move to launch the GeForce 8800 in November should rather be considered as a symbolic step, said industry sources. So far, Microsoft only promised that Windows Vista will run DirectX 9.0, allowing to later upgrade it to DirectX 10 via Windows Update, the sources indicated. When Microsoft releases a DirectX 10-capable OS, ATI will perhaps catch up with the competition, the sources added.

you're the one that thinks Crysis is a full DX10 game
:roll:

 

[imported_RedStar]

they mean vista itself will not be directX 10 --the aero interface for example.

And yes crysis is a dx 10 game. the word "full" is reserved by you