Originally posted by: Wreckage
M0RPH and turltle could be twins, of course he is defending him.
He's defending the same behavior that he displays. :roll:
Right... but you're the model forum citizen. *enormous eye roll*
Originally posted by: Wreckage
M0RPH and turltle could be twins, of course he is defending him.
He's defending the same behavior that he displays. :roll:
Wreckage, your limited grasp of things has you thinking this is "ATI vs. Nvidia" but this discussion is not about favoring any particular videocard brand.Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: crazydingo
Yes, the consumers' party vs evil corps party.Originally posted by: Wreckage
This is less about video cards than it is about one political party hyping up a scandal from another political party. :thumbsdown:
I would say calling ATI "evil" is a bit out of line.
Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: rise4310
wow, you're messed up man. i don't think i've seen anyone on either side of the fence support that troll.
Let's see... Turtle... annoying guy who liked to praise ATI and bash Nvidia, ususally for unfounded reasons.
Now Rollo... frequently annoying guy who liked to praise Nvidia and bash ATI, frequqntly for unfounded reasons. Found to be influenced by an Nvidia-sponsored guerilla marketing campaign, lied and decieved everyone in the forum about it.
Turtle... banned for life. Rollo... still around and doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
Fair?
Originally posted by: ronnn
Have lost track of all this. Has there been any resolution or just business as usual?
Originally posted by: nitromullet
I think that AT, the forum members, and AEG/NV/ATI all could benefit from knowing how the target audience feels about this kind of marketing. Maybe AT can just make a poll in the sidebar... I really hope that the mods, and even Anand himself, are concerned about this. All the flaming aside, there is still a nice sense of community on these forums, and I hope that AT takes seriously any potential threats to this.
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ronnn
Have lost track of all this. Has there been any resolution or just business as usual?
Just like everywhere else no one cares, because it's no big deal.
A couple of one sided individuals have been trying (unsuccessfully) to blow this out of proportion.
Even someone who has no interest in video cards can read through this thread and see that's it's mostly just BS.
If Rollo and a handful of anti-nvidia zealots were not on this forum this thread would not have gone past 2 pages.
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: ronnn
Have lost track of all this. Has there been any resolution or just business as usual?
Just like everywhere else no one cares, because it's no big deal.
A couple of one sided individuals have been trying (unsuccessfully) to blow this out of proportion.
Even someone who has no interest in video cards can read through this thread and see that's it's mostly just BS.
If Rollo and a handful of anti-nvidia zealots were not on this forum this thread would not have gone past 2 pages.
The next person to start a thread in FI about the AEG issue will be banned from the forums until it's resolution. We are working on the situation.
Please be patient.
AnandTech Moderator
Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: nitromullet
I think that AT, the forum members, and AEG/NV/ATI all could benefit from knowing how the target audience feels about this kind of marketing. Maybe AT can just make a poll in the sidebar... I really hope that the mods, and even Anand himself, are concerned about this. All the flaming aside, there is still a nice sense of community on these forums, and I hope that AT takes seriously any potential threats to this.
What would this accomplish? Do we need separate yes/no buttons for relatively benign 'beta feedback' type marketing done by AEG, as well as outright paid spam shilling?
I think the level of awareness of 'viral marketers' has been raised to a new level in all just about every online community as a result of this. It would be nice to have newcomers made aware that the person giving advice may be a member of a marketing organization in the guise of a 'beta feedback' program or worse, but I'm not sure a poll will accomplish that much.
The community here has made it very clear that they don't care to be stealth-marketed to. I don't think we need to explicitly ask community members if they want shills hidden among normal members.
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: v8envy
Originally posted by: nitromullet
I think that AT, the forum members, and AEG/NV/ATI all could benefit from knowing how the target audience feels about this kind of marketing. Maybe AT can just make a poll in the sidebar... I really hope that the mods, and even Anand himself, are concerned about this. All the flaming aside, there is still a nice sense of community on these forums, and I hope that AT takes seriously any potential threats to this.
What would this accomplish? Do we need separate yes/no buttons for relatively benign 'beta feedback' type marketing done by AEG, as well as outright paid spam shilling?
I think the level of awareness of 'viral marketers' has been raised to a new level in all just about every online community as a result of this. It would be nice to have newcomers made aware that the person giving advice may be a member of a marketing organization in the guise of a 'beta feedback' program or worse, but I'm not sure a poll will accomplish that much.
The community here has made it very clear that they don't care to be stealth-marketed to. I don't think we need to explicitly ask community members if they want shills hidden among normal members.
Well, numbers talk... If the results of the poll showed that 90% of you approved, I'd respect that, shut up, and probably leave AT forums. At least, however, I would be able to make an informed decision. As it stands now, we have some saying no one cares and a lot of others saying that they do. NV was quoted on AEG's site as saying that the program has been very successful, so they will most likely continue the practice. I would think that if they were aware that the majority of people disapproved of the practice they might re-think that position. Obviously public opinion and this very forum does matter to them, or they wouldn't have planted a mole here. They also apparently want feedback... why don't we give it to them?
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Apop, I see that, but the point is the tread you linked to was locked because of the comments made... I would like to see a poll that has some lengevity and doesn't contain posts that will influence the outcome.
Originally posted by: v8envy
p.s. PM disabled, how about that. No wonder AEG hasn't come charging in to offer me that 30 incher.
its not even close to that at b3d. most seemed fine with it and the detractors mostly seemed to wish it had been more open.Overwhelming outpouring of rage at having marketing agents masquerading as regulars on both forums. More like 90:1 against installing shills if you read the posts.
Just why is that 5150? You thought I was a pretty great guy for months and months, said yourself just a couple days ago you have a couple 100 PMs with me, and now I need to be "banned ASAP"?Originally posted by: 5150Joker
AEG/nVidia viral marketers and their lackeys need to be banned ASAP.
Shouldn't anyone be called out any time they troll? What's changed there?If they're not banned, they need to be called out anytime they try to troll