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[ArchAngel777]

Ok now that I have vented on the issue, I thought it would be time to bring a reasonable solution to the forums.

1) Rollo needs to apoligize, publicly to everyone in the forum about his deceit in regards to being a part of AEG.

2) AT should give him a custom title of (AEG Marketer) with a link that explains what it is and who they are affiliated with.

3) He should no longer be giving advice to people. He should stick to the facts and keep his paid opinion out of this.

4) Everyone can forgive Rollo for his trespass if he does apoligize. That does not mean we will trust him, but it means that we can give him a clean slate as a person.

After all, remember Rollo didn't have to admit that he was a part of AEG and could have kept his deceit up. I give him credit for actually admitting it. Though I believe it should have been a seperate post with an explanation and an apoligy addressed to the forum.

 

[DidlySquat]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Never mind the fact that he name calls, says someone is a "fine argument for abortion", and says nts's wife passes him information out of "gratitude". That is just flat out pathetic to say to someone. I have serious doubts he would say something that like that irl. Its pretty sad that mods ban other people (allegedly) who suggested (and were right) that he was in AEG, and keep him with all the insults he slings. But hey, these forums have been going down hill for a long time now. HardOCP's was the same way, but their mods stepped it up, and gave out plenty of bans for such acts. It is now much better. Mods around here dont seem to care.

If the mods here cared Ackmed, half the people in this thread would be banned for flaming.

Like who cares about your 2 year old son computer running 7800 GTX 512 or whatever other crazy stuff you get at our expense

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: DidlySquat

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Never mind the fact that he name calls, says someone is a "fine argument for abortion", and says nts's wife passes him information out of "gratitude". That is just flat out pathetic to say to someone. I have serious doubts he would say something that like that irl. Its pretty sad that mods ban other people (allegedly) who suggested (and were right) that he was in AEG, and keep him with all the insults he slings. But hey, these forums have been going down hill for a long time now. HardOCP's was the same way, but their mods stepped it up, and gave out plenty of bans for such acts. It is now much better. Mods around here dont seem to care.

If the mods here cared Ackmed, half the people in this thread would be banned for flaming.

STFU you pathetic backstabbing old geyzer. no one cares about your 2 year old son computer running 7800 GTX 512 or whatever other crazy stuff you get at our expense

Quoted for bannation.

Rollo may have done some shady things, but you are no better in character.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Never mind the fact that he name calls, says someone is a "fine argument for abortion", and says nts's wife passes him information out of "gratitude". That is just flat out pathetic to say to someone. I have serious doubts he would say something that like that irl. Its pretty sad that mods ban other people (allegedly) who suggested (and were right) that he was in AEG, and keep him with all the insults he slings. But hey, these forums have been going down hill for a long time now. HardOCP's was the same way, but their mods stepped it up, and gave out plenty of bans for such acts. It is now much better. Mods around here dont seem to care.

If the mods here cared Ackmed, half the people in this thread would be banned for flaming.

STFU you pathetic backstabbing old geyzer. no one cares about your 2 year old son computer running 7800 GTX 512 or whatever other crazy stuff you get at our expense

Quoted for bannation.

Rollo may have done some shady things, but you are no better in character.

I've seen Rollo say worse and not get banned.

Didn't he say something about the Holocaust, spouting off "Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil"?

I'm just asking. Don't go calling for my ban now.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Never mind the fact that he name calls, says someone is a "fine argument for abortion", and says nts's wife passes him information out of "gratitude". That is just flat out pathetic to say to someone. I have serious doubts he would say something that like that irl. Its pretty sad that mods ban other people (allegedly) who suggested (and were right) that he was in AEG, and keep him with all the insults he slings. But hey, these forums have been going down hill for a long time now. HardOCP's was the same way, but their mods stepped it up, and gave out plenty of bans for such acts. It is now much better. Mods around here dont seem to care.

If the mods here cared Ackmed, half the people in this thread would be banned for flaming.

STFU you pathetic backstabbing old geyzer. no one cares about your 2 year old son computer running 7800 GTX 512 or whatever other crazy stuff you get at our expense

Quoted for bannation.

Rollo may have done some shady things, but you are no better in character.

I've seen Rollo say worse and not get banned.

Didn't he say something about the Holocaust, spouting off "Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil"?

I'm just asking. Don't go calling for my ban now.

I remember when he said that.

Two things:

1. His quote was not addressing the holocaust, but rather a member's tendency for "analness" <-- If that's not really a word, it is now

2. It was jovial in context.

Now, I'm not justifying Rollo's actions, but merely pointing out the difference between his comments and DiddlySquat's. And if I am mistaken about the seriousness of Rollo's comments, then by all means he should have been banned for it.

But again, let's not get into the habbit of, "well he did it too" kind of mentality. Telling someone to shut the f*** up and then bringing up their son in the same post is not the kind of attitude that should be tolerated, regardless of the current situation.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
Never mind the fact that he name calls, says someone is a "fine argument for abortion", and says nts's wife passes him information out of "gratitude". That is just flat out pathetic to say to someone. I have serious doubts he would say something that like that irl. Its pretty sad that mods ban other people (allegedly) who suggested (and were right) that he was in AEG, and keep him with all the insults he slings. But hey, these forums have been going down hill for a long time now. HardOCP's was the same way, but their mods stepped it up, and gave out plenty of bans for such acts. It is now much better. Mods around here dont seem to care.

If the mods here cared Ackmed, half the people in this thread would be banned for flaming.

STFU you pathetic backstabbing old geyzer. no one cares about your 2 year old son computer running 7800 GTX 512 or whatever other crazy stuff you get at our expense

Quoted for bannation.

Rollo may have done some shady things, but you are no better in character.

I've seen Rollo say worse and not get banned.

Didn't he say something about the Holocaust, spouting off "Zeig Heil! Zeig Heil"?

I'm just asking. Don't go calling for my ban now.

I remember when he said that.

Two things:

1. His quote was not addressing the holocaust, but rather a member's tendency for "analness" <-- If that's not really a word, it is now

2. It was jovial in context.

Now, I'm not justifying Rollo's actions, but merely pointing out the difference between his comments and DiddlySquat's. And if I am mistaken about the seriousness of Rollo's comments, then by all means he should have been banned for it.

But again, let's not get into the habbit of, "well he did it too" kind of mentality. Telling someone to shut the f*** up and then bringing up their son in the same post is not the kind of attitude that should be tolerated, regardless of the current situation.

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

 

[Zebo]

And I dont see how Rollo is any different than Ronin or FUGGER, Mackie(sp?) or any of the ATI cronies that are given hardware? Whats the damn difference?

No difference at all. I'd estimate 10% of the posters at xtreme get all thier HW for free with an understanding it get's pimped there and other places. Don't hear the whinning about that do ya? In fact I know many of the posters in this thread frequent there too.

The issue of poor ethics is not to be taken lightly - but I think Rollos abrasive style has invited most of this condemation and drama.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

Exactly.

This is the mentality that has the video forum upside down right now.

1 person does something wrong, and instead of displaying our integrity and ethical superiority to the said offender, people feel it's open season to go Rollo hunting.

Never have I seen such a display of hypocrisy before with such oblivious opposition.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

Exactly.

This is the mentality that has the video forum upside down right now.

1 person does something wrong, and instead of displaying our integrity and ethical superiority to the said offender, people feel it's open season to go Rollo hunting.

Never have I seen such a display of hypocrisy before with such oblivious opposition.

Listen to me. Rollo will be pwned. Then he will be pwned again. And again. Then he will be banned. Then he will re-join, only to be pwned again and re-banned.

Only until *THIS* happens will I be satisfied that he got his due.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

Exactly.

This is the mentality that has the video forum upside down right now.

1 person does something wrong, and instead of displaying our integrity and ethical superiority to the said offender, people feel it's open season to go Rollo hunting.

Never have I seen such a display of hypocrisy before with such oblivious opposition.

Listen to me. Rollo will be pwned. Then he will be pwned again. And again. Then he will be banned. Then he will re-join, only to be pwned again and re-banned.

Only until *THIS* happens will I be satisfied that he got his due.

Look, don't get snappy with me because I don't agree with your personal vendetta. It has done the video forum no good, but rather crap all over threads that had potential to be good regardless of who the OP is.

You said it yourself that two wrongs don't make a right. So practice what you preach.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

Exactly.

This is the mentality that has the video forum upside down right now.

1 person does something wrong, and instead of displaying our integrity and ethical superiority to the said offender, people feel it's open season to go Rollo hunting.

Never have I seen such a display of hypocrisy before with such oblivious opposition.

Listen to me. Rollo will be pwned. Then he will be pwned again. And again. Then he will be banned. Then he will re-join, only to be pwned again and re-banned.

Only until *THIS* happens will I be satisfied that he got his due.

Look, don't get snappy with me because I don't agree with your personal vendetta. It has done the video forum no good, but rather crap all over threads that had potential to be good regardless of who the OP is.

You said it yourself that two wrongs don't make a right. So practice what you preach.

Ok fine. So then what do you propose we do about the first "wrong"?

We need to deal with Rollo and the rest will follow.

 

[DidlySquat]

tRollo was always PMing the mods asking for people to be banned, usually people that had heated arguments with him, even when during that argument he was saying worse things than the people he asked to be banned. And to think that the scumbag actually thought he could become a mod - think how he would abuse his power and ban people that don't agree with him all the time.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Ok fine. So then what do you propose we do about the first "wrong"?

We need to deal with Rollo and the rest will follow.

We don't do anything. All we can do is agree that both offenses deserved a weeks ban.

The only problem I see with dealing with Rollo first is that his actions are somewhat unprecendented so the consequences may take some time to be conjured. During this process, I believe the mods simply cannot let anyone have free reign for personal attacks.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
tRollo was always PMing the mods asking for people to be banned, usually people that had heated arguments with him, even when during that argument he was saying worse things than the people he asked to be banned. And to think that the scumbag actually thought he could become a mod - think how he would abuse his power and ban people that don't agree with him all the time.

That's understandable, but making personal attacks to him in public does not help your case one bit.

 

[Conky]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
tRollo was always PMing the mods asking for people to be banned, usually people that had heated arguments with him, even when during that argument he was saying worse things than the people he asked to be banned. And to think that the scumbag actually thought he could become a mod - think how he would abuse his power and ban people that don't agree with him all the time.

That's understandable, but making personal attacks to him in public does not help your case one bit.

Yes, attacking Rollo personally does nothing but help him and his supporters(as misguided as they may be) in his attempt to paint this whole situation as a "fanboy war" or "witch hunt". the term "witch hunt" is Copyright © 2006 NVIDIA Corporation.

But one truly has to admire the sheer audacity of an AEG marketing rep who campaigned so desperately to become an Anandtech moderator, lol. He may have absolutely no morals but he's sure got some nerve, hehe.

Rollo will just have to purchase his videocards from this day forward as he has always claimed he did anyway.

I still think Earl pegged it. Karma is something that will always come back to bite you on the butt although Rollo is not nearly as likeable as Earl. :thumbsdown:

 

[DidlySquat]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
tRollo was always PMing the mods asking for people to be banned, usually people that had heated arguments with him, even when during that argument he was saying worse things than the people he asked to be banned. And to think that the scumbag actually thought he could become a mod - think how he would abuse his power and ban people that don't agree with him all the time.

That's understandable, but making personal attacks to him in public does not help your case one bit.

oooh thanks, after quoting me for "bannation" - what a tard

 

[Nirach]

A few hundred posts back someone asked if this thread was going for the longest thread ever.

I'm betting it'll get to two thousand posts before people give it a rest and decide that they've spent the best part of a few thousand posts arguing the same thing over and over again..

 

[Zebo]

I don't post in Video that much BUT IMO - This is obviously a personel vendetta with many of you guys - if it's not - why don't you go over to xtremesystems and try to get banned all those dudes who for years get free gear and promote the crap out of it? Lemme know if they stop laughing before or after they cancel your account.

In many ways they are more "dangerous" than a Rollo could ever be - primarly because they, knowing they can get replacments any second for the things they break and fry, overclock the crap out of stuff setting up an unrealistic example and leading to hardware failures for noobs who try and "emmulate". Costing them real money, greif and fustration. Rollo never suggests overclocking. He does PIMP.

And don't try that no-ad stuff either AT allows ads and reps here all the time - there's a not so subtle OCZ "help" thread stickied in the CPU forum right now. While providing help - don't fool yourselves into thinking the reps do so out the kindness of thier heart - it's primarly about market presence, for free, even sanctioned by mods since it's sticked.

I've already said I disagree with the ethics of what nV is doing and including XS members and owners which is why I don't go there but at least be consistant in your views - Rollo is not the first - not the worst and certainly is being "singled out" if not a outright witch hunt.

 

[sisq0kidd]

Originally posted by: DidlySquat

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: DidlySquat
tRollo was always PMing the mods asking for people to be banned, usually people that had heated arguments with him, even when during that argument he was saying worse things than the people he asked to be banned. And to think that the scumbag actually thought he could become a mod - think how he would abuse his power and ban people that don't agree with him all the time.

That's understandable, but making personal attacks to him in public does not help your case one bit.

oooh thanks, after quoting me for "bannation" - what a tard

Typical response.

I'm sure you'll be dealth with soon enough.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't post in Video that much BUT IMO - This is obviously a personel vendetta with many of you guys - if it's not - why don't you go over to xtremesystems and try to get banned all those dudes who for years get free gear and promote the crap out of it?

Because some of us don't post regularly there. It's up to the the long-term members and Moderators at xtremesystems to determine what is right for their forums.

 

[MrJim]

I think its time for the anandtech staff to say formally that when you enter the forum, you leave your work behind, that should include AEG, its scary and not everyone can see the danger its imposses on the masses.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't post in Video that much BUT IMO - This is obviously a personel vendetta with many of you guys - if it's not - why don't you go over to xtremesystems and try to get banned all those dudes who for years get free gear and promote the crap out of it? Lemme know if they stop laughing before or after they cancel your account.

In many ways they are more "dangerous" than a Rollo could ever be - primarly because they, knowing they can get replacments any second for the things they break and fry, overclock the crap out of stuff setting up an unrealistic example and leading to hardware failures for noobs who try and "emmulate". Costing them real money, greif and fustration. Rollo never suggests overclocking. He does PIMP.

And don't try that no-ad stuff either AT allows ads and reps here all the time - there's a not so subtle OCZ "help" thread stickied in the CPU forum right now. While providing help - don't fool yourselves into thinking the reps do so out the kindness of thier heart - it's primarly about market presence, for free, even sanctioned by mods since it's sticked.

I've already said I disagree with the ethics of what nV is doing and including XS members and owners which is why I don't go there but at least be consistant in your views - Rollo is not the first - not the worst and certainly is being "singled out" if not a outright witch hunt.

Zebo and i may not agree on everything [or even 'much'] . . . but this IS a "personal vendetta" for some and the flaming is way over-the-top.

Come on guys, ATF is going to resolve this . . . be patient and trust them . . . we don't need to say things to eac other that we will regret later.. . . .

OK, we were disappointed by Rollo/AEG/nVidia . . . but we don't need to tear Video apart by flaming every thread.

my thoughts . . . i am done here

i m looking forward to resolution and healing

 

[schtuga]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: SickBeast

I just don't see how someone can be banned for that given the fact that Rollo has gotten away with worse.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

I will not support this ban unless Rollo is banned first. Then give this guy 2 years of slack just like Rollo was.

Exactly.





This is the mentality that has the video forum upside down right now.

1 person does something wrong, and instead of displaying our integrity and ethical superiority to the said offender, people feel it's open season to go Rollo hunting.

Never have I seen such a display of hypocrisy before with such oblivious opposition.

Listen to me. Rollo will be pwned. Then he will be pwned again. And again. Then he will be banned. Then he will re-join, only to be pwned again and re-banned.

Only until *THIS* happens will I be satisfied that he got his due.

Look, don't get snappy with me because I don't agree with your personal vendetta. It has done the video forum no good, but rather crap all over threads that had potential to be good regardless of who the OP is.

You said it yourself that two wrongs don't make a right. So practice what you preach.

Ok fine. So then what do you propose we do about the first "wrong"?

We need to deal with Rollo and the rest will follow.

If you think what Rollo did is bad enough to subject him to 70+ pages of open ridicule and language that wouldn't be allowed on any self respecting site and then use the grade 3 mentality -he did it first,then that quite simply is very sad.

When people start coming to this site to read the excitement,they aren't going to see your logical post on driver issues,they are going to see what a sad spiteful tempermental child you are and that's all.

Oh but you have thousands of posts and I don't,so by this sites mentality you are right.

Rollo isn't the anti christ,he hasn't murdered anyone,in fact not one person has come forward to say that their life is forever tarnished because they took his advise.

He pimped some video parts on the hush hush.Why?

Because like anyone else the temptation for an enthusiast to recieve free parts was to much to resist.

He annoyed people,got under their skin and argued his points just like everyone else,and used terms that were acceptable or not just like everyone else.And hid his affiliation.

And for this we should start several threads and thousands of posts to call him names like ,snake,loser,low life pos,on a widely known site for the whole world to see just how cool and badass we are.


You call yourselves inteligent respectful human beings and then lower yourselves to these standards.

I can't believe that a site like anadtech would allow this behavior to go on.
The very thing people have been wanting eliminated from this site has been going on for days now, and the senior members can justify it in their quest for forum supremecy.

It's hard not to start losing respect for this site for allowing this to continue,and to the senior members who have continually practiced the behavior they claim they want eliminated.

You people should be ashamed of your behavior.

But that's right he did it first.............................

 

[MrJim]

Originally posted by: RobertR1
I still don't know why this is hard to believe? Marketing is very crucial for companies and I see no reason why nvidia would use what ever tactics (moral aspects aside) to gain customers by having "one of them" influence the community.

If these users had a "member of AEG" in their sig, you'd be much less inclined to respect their opinion due to the obvious bias. If you're half way smart, you can generally pick them out. They'll be the ones still trying to convince people that the 7800GTX 512 is a better buy than the x1900xt/x, if not for performance, then for profit since you could sell it in a month for more than what you paid for.......

Derek Perez would do himself and nvidia a favor by not even responding to such articles. If it walk and quacks like a duck, it's a duck, Derek. Stop trying to convince people otherwise.

I like this line "if these users had a "member of AEG" in their sig", this is as it SHOULD be. It should clearly say that they are members of AEG, morally, legally and just plain right. Not everyone is "halfway smart" maybe they are young and havent learnt critical thinking but it doenst matter. I think this is a very serious issue and Anand and his lovely gang should make a statement about this and add an policy about it.

 

[5150Joker]

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