Nvidia viral marketing with AEG exposed !!! *UPDATED* *Poll Added*

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Yourself

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Yourself
Oh my...where has this forum gone...? You have members following other members around flaming and then hiding behind "I'm doing it for the good of the forum" BS.

Let me make this as clear as I can:

When you continually flame someone you are every bit as bad the person you're flaming regardless of their past transgressions

You can't hide behind the "greater good" crap or "he did this, so I'm justified in any action I see fit". Why is this so hard to figure out...?

Do you condone convicted felons too? Or just the self-admitted ones?

What are you talking about...that makes absolutely no sense and has nothing to do with my post. I'm talking about this forum and the actions people have taken in response to this issue and the justifications of those actions....

It makes perfect sense.

Rollo is a self-admitted liar and you appear to be condoning what he has done. You are attacking the people that are reacting what he has done, and you have yet to say anything against his actions.

It's like picking on the assault victim for spitting in the eye of her attacker.

OMG...out of my post you're getting that I'm condoning what Rollo did? That is the biggest spin in this thread yet....you could not possibly take my comments more out of context and spin them in your direction....wow....

LOL

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Before i plunge into this let me say this: "God why in the world was i so compelled to jump into this mess. Everything was fine, and now i go and start arguing about this" *Sigh* well im knee deep in it now, so lets see what i can do:

I can link to posts from 2004 where Rollo followed me all the way to nVNews just to start flamebaiting the thread I created. He's no angel and he's definitely a pro-flamer and always has been. He's been doing the same thing to others here for years all the while being given the green light for his antics by AEG/nVidia.

Nor did i ever say he was an Angel. However, i think you should consider that he is a very kind person, and also simply prefers Nvidia. He has never BLINDLY recommended Nv over ATI.

As for the kind at heart here is an example:
*IIRC Keys wife was going to have a baby. I dont know this person or anything, but apparently they know each other. He set up a pool (as in money) for Keys's wife's baby shower. We all contributed $10, this was all organized by him mind you. Got a PM from Keys saying how much he appreciated everything.

I honestly expected more out of you, Kevin. As a man of God, you should believe in honesty and integrity. Thou shalt not lie, that is a fundamental principal of your faith. You should not condone what Rollo has done.

Man, I hope God is watching me. I think everyone i have ever talked to knows me to be a big Christian lol.

Well he hasn't done anything unethical. I wasn't able to read all IIRC 15 pages of this thread, but it dont ever recall Rollo denying that he was a member, merely asking for proof instead. Yes, deceptive, but after this whole debacle how can you blame the guy?!? Wrong to be deceptive, yes; immoral, and unethical- i would hardly call any of his actions.

He did deny it. Multiple times. And he had anyone who challenged him on it *banned*.

He also falsely accused many, many members of working for ATI (myself included). Joseph was also falsely accused. I'm sure you know how that turned out.

For a Christian I must say you have a pretty loose definition of "ethics". I suppose it's my personal conviction that the Ten Commandments are the most important aspect of Christianity.

Best Wishes.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: apoppin
instead of name calling we should be looking for agreement.

what can we agree upon?

let's try: "Rollo should be censured"

can everyone agree that he should get [at least] some kind of Official Reprimand [possibly including a ban]?

In case you haven't noticed, I've only been getting upset when people condone what Rollo has done.

I am all for the above suggestion. :thumbsup:

 

[Gamingphreek]

For a Christian I must say you have a pretty loose definition of "ethics".

No, but from my limited knowledge of Rollo outside of the forums (Keys Baby pool, advice on troll etc..) i believe his reasons. Also based on those reasons, and all his passed posts truly believe that AEG hasn't affected his posts at all.

Can anyone find out when AEG was hired by Nvidia for this, that would certainly help matters.

He did deny it. Multiple times. And he had anyone who challenged him on it *banned*.

He also falsely accused many, many members of working for ATI (myself included). Joseph was also falsely accused. I'm sure you know how that turned out.

People are accused of working for a company every day based on their opinions here. I cant accurately comment because i cant seem to remember the particular issue, but from what i do remember, Rollo only ever denied working for Nvidia. Which is true, he doesn't, he said he work for a marketing firm, which he does.

-Kevin

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
People are accused of working for a company every day based on their opinions here. I cant accurately comment because i cant seem to remember the particular issue, but from what i do remember, Rollo only ever denied working for Nvidia. Which is true, he doesn't, he said he work for a marketing firm, which he does.

-Kevin

That's fine, but I really think "false banning" is the AT equivalent of "false imprisonment" and needs to be taken very seriously.

I'm not sure how you'd feel about someone who stole something valuable from you and didn't tell you about it for 4 years, but whatever.

 

[route66]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
People are accused of working for a company every day based on their opinions here. I cant accurately comment because i cant seem to remember the particular issue, but from what i do remember, Rollo only ever denied working for Nvidia. Which is true, he doesn't, he said he work for a marketing firm, which he does.

No, he denied working for AEG. He specifically said he doesn't work for AEG, as many people have pointed out (with links)

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
instead of name calling we should be looking for agreement.

what can we agree upon?

let's try: "Rollo should be censured"

can everyone agree that he should get [at least] some kind of Official Reprimand [possibly including a ban]?

In case you haven't noticed, I've only been getting upset when people condone what Rollo has done.

I am all for the above suggestion. :thumbsup:

Are you saying you are a Christian and have not sinned so can cast the first stone? Are you saying that the turning of the other cheek doesn't involve silicon? Are you saying love your enemy as you would be loved doesn't apply when you are in the howling group of the righteous? I am unsure why you would have Rollo own you but even Jesus dying on the cross asked for forgiveness for us mortals. Somehow I don't think Rollo is the spawn of h*ll . Your continual litany of self-righteous indignation over Rollo is puzzling.

Err. I get it, it is like when I watch the Wizards play basketball. I get so angry that they are losing that I forget that I am a loser for losing my even minded peace over external realities that in no way affect me.

Hmm, does anyone else get a little guilty charge when watching the movie Spawn. You know the movie made during Mr. Sheen's lean years before West Wing. It was so bad and the special effects so horrible that it was actually good.

Edit: I am in no way impugning your character SickBeast but rather I am rambling in a thinly disguised siloquy filled for I am but a player who struts and frets his hour upon the stage and is heard no more. It is as life itself ... a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury ... signifying nothing.

 

[fierydemise]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
If you haven't seen that thread, then I would definately suggest you take a look at it. Truly amazing. Take a peek.

Keys if you haven't noticed SickBeast apoligized, he can't take back what he did on that thread but he can apoligize to Rollo for doing something that was inappropriate, that thread was over the top but its over quit beating a dead horse.

 

[Gamingphreek]

That's fine, but I really think "false banning" is the AT equivalent of "false imprisonment" and needs to be taken very seriously.

While i cant attest to this, i would venture to think that these members in question had done other things in addition to the accusations. I agree though, they shouldn't be banned if that was a primary reason.

I'm not sure how you'd feel about someone who stole something valuable from you and didn't tell you about it for 4 years, but whatever.

Well i dont really feel like i have been scammed. If perhaps i didn't know as much as i do, and was convinced into buying a far inferior card i may feel diferently. But from what i can recall, as i said earlier, he never made any truly horrible or over-the-top recommendations.

As for that metaphor though, well he really did tell the truth. Albeit not the entire truth, but he said:
*Doesn't work for Nvidia...true
*Works for a marketing firm...true
*Obtains products through the company...true

I cant comment on the banning of people that accuse him of being with AEG as i dont remember or know anything about it.

-Kevin

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
instead of name calling we should be looking for agreement.

what can we agree upon?

let's try: "Rollo should be censured"

can everyone agree that he should get [at least] some kind of Official Reprimand [possibly including a ban]?

In case you haven't noticed, I've only been getting upset when people condone what Rollo has done.

I am all for the above suggestion. :thumbsup:

Are you saying you are a Christian and have not sinned so can cast the first stone? Are you saying that the turning of the other cheek doesn't involve silicon? Are you saying love your enemy as you would be loved doesn't apply when you are in the howling group of the righteous? I am unsure why you would have Rollo own you but even Jesus dying on the cross asked for forgiveness for us mortals. Somehow I don't think Rollo is the spawn of h*ll . Your continual litany of self-righteous indignation over Rollo is puzzling.

I am Christian and I continually sin.

Turning the other cheek involves everything.

I have apologized to Rollo and hold no ill-will against him.

I would love to pwn Rollo. Please do not compare him to Jesus.

I just think that "an eye for an eye" or "a favor for a favor" applies in this case. Call it "righteous indignation" if you want, but in doing so you are essentially casting the first stone and also casting judgement upon me. :beer:

 

[orangat]

Gamingphreek read the link in my sig

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: route66

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
People are accused of working for a company every day based on their opinions here. I cant accurately comment because i cant seem to remember the particular issue, but from what i do remember, Rollo only ever denied working for Nvidia. Which is true, he doesn't, he said he work for a marketing firm, which he does.

No, he denied working for AEG. He specifically said he doesn't work for AEG, as many people have pointed out (with links)

There is surplus evidence against him.

I can see some people supporting Rollo out of the fact that they share similar opinions (atleast when it comes to brand loyaly in video cards) and want Rollo to do their dirty work. That is bash x, praise y.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
instead of name calling we should be looking for agreement.

what can we agree upon?

let's try: "Rollo should be censured"

can everyone agree that he should get [at least] some kind of Official Reprimand [possibly including a ban]?

In case you haven't noticed, I've only been getting upset when people condone what Rollo has done.

I am all for the above suggestion. :thumbsup:

Are you saying you are a Christian and have not sinned so can cast the first stone? Are you saying that the turning of the other cheek doesn't involve silicon? Are you saying love your enemy as you would be loved doesn't apply when you are in the howling group of the righteous? I am unsure why you would have Rollo own you but even Jesus dying on the cross asked for forgiveness for us mortals. Somehow I don't think Rollo is the spawn of h*ll . Your continual litany of self-righteous indignation over Rollo is puzzling.

I am Christian and I continually sin.

Turning the other cheek involves everything.

I have apologized to Rollo and hold no ill-will against him.

I would love to pwn Rollo. Please do not compare him to Jesus.

I just think that "an eye for an eye" or "a favor for a favor" applies in this case. Call it "righteous indignation" if you want, but in doing so you are essentially casting the first stone and also casting judgement upon me. :beer:

Lol vicious process isn't it. Now lets forget about the religious background for a second before my head explodes.

(And before any one says anything, i am BY NO MEANS implying that i (or Rollo for that matter) am, perfect.

-Kevin

 

[SickBeast]

Whoa Nelly, I need to be careful.

Let's leave religion out of this.

I'm sorry I brought it up.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
He works for a marketing firm (which he stated many times before) where he recieves discounted or free items to test.

Where are you getting THAT from? He has REPEATEDLY said that his hardware came directly from nVidia at a discount price through a friend of his there. But now that the AEG story broke, we suddenly find that his "discounted" cards were actually free and they were gotten for working for the AEG. Those two stories aren't even CLOSE to each other.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
i think you should consider that he is a very kind person

That is utter rubbish. Have you even bothered to actually read any of his posts? He may be nice to those whose opinions match his own, but he has absolutely no reservations about totally insulting and demeaning anybody who has the audacity to have an opinion differing from his. No "very kind person" would say 1/10 of what Rollo has.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Well he hasn't done anything unethical. I wasn't able to read all IIRC 15 pages of this thread, but it dont ever recall Rollo denying that he was a member, merely asking for proof instead. Yes, deceptive, but after this whole debacle how can you blame the guy?!? Wrong to be deceptive, yes; immoral, and unethical- i would hardly call any of his actions.

By his own admission, Rollo got four people banned for hinting that he was an AEG member when he knew they were absolutely correct. I don't know how you define "ethical", but that certainly doesn't fit into my definition of the word.

 

[L00PY]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Can anyone find out when AEG was hired by Nvidia for this, that would certainly help matters.

I'm a little over half way through the closed 37 page B3D post, but I think ChrisRay said he had been a member for two years. I'd also like to point out that nothing I've read there has changed my stance on the matter yet. Getting free gear to test, and post about online is still getting paid to act as a shill. I'm also of the opinion that just disclosing you're a member of such a group would be more than enough to make it okay in my book. When you read through commentaries on a stock, the author will write whether or not he holds a position in any of the stocks. Revealing this lessens the appearance of impropriety and lets the reader make an informed conclusion as to the merits of the author's opinion.

The "let's keep it secret to prevent our focus groups from being bothered with requests" doesn't work for me. That comes with the territory of being a representitive of the company. The payment of free hardware should more than cover that inconvenience.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
instead of name calling we should be looking for agreement.

what can we agree upon?

let's try: "Rollo should be censured"

can everyone agree that he should get [at least] some kind of Official Reprimand [possibly including a ban]?

In case you haven't noticed, I've only been getting upset when people condone what Rollo has done.

I am all for the above suggestion. :thumbsup:

this was directed at EVERYone.

eventually we're gonna get a decision - and then we're gonna have to "live" together again.

i think everyone should look carefully a their posts before hitting 'reply' - try 'Preview' - and edit out the sarcasm, personal jabs and hurtful words.

There are no "animals" here . . . just people.


and don't you thnk the following - from this thread - with the posters in "good standing" - is a little over-the-top?:

you make the most retarded analogies I've ever seen. . . Before you reply with your usual half-wit antics, read over what I wrote at least five times to fully comprehend what I just told you since I know you're a bit slow.

:Q

can we begin at least a semblence of respect for each other . . . we don't have to agree but we don't have to "put down" the other person in our replies.

Many of us take issue with Rollo for doing this and now it is regularly practiced by many others - in imitaion of him.
:Q

remember, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
You may be becoming what you despise.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: apoppin
There are no "animals" here . . . just people.

Hey watch it, you're gonna hurt my feelings.

I'm trying to promote "Munky Marks". :Q

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
There are no "animals" here . . . just people.

Hey watch it, you're gonna hurt my feelings.

I'm trying to promote "Munky Marks". :Q

ok . . . maybe that was a bad example


and have you set up your multi-level promotional campaign yet?
i have a great idea for a Word of Mouth Campaign . . . i learned a lot in the last few weeks.
:shocked:

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
If you haven't seen that thread, then I would definately suggest you take a look at it. Truly amazing. Take a peek.

Keys if you haven't noticed SickBeast apoligized, he can't take back what he did on that thread but he can apoligize to Rollo for doing something that was inappropriate, that thread was over the top but its over quit beating a dead horse.

A dead horse? That thread was created last night for C-sakes.
You would have a point if his apologies lasted more than a few hours. Look at him now, still carrying on and now even throwing religion into the mix. How far will these people go to get that glorious taste of blood on their tongues? I would absolutely accept any apology, but then don't go right back to doing the same thing again. It renders the apology useless and meaningless. Maliciousness is the only word I can find to describe it.
I am probably as sick of this garbage forum as you are. There is obviously nothing that can be done about it, short of moderation.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
If you haven't seen that thread, then I would definately suggest you take a look at it. Truly amazing. Take a peek.

Keys if you haven't noticed SickBeast apoligized, he can't take back what he did on that thread but he can apoligize to Rollo for doing something that was inappropriate, that thread was over the top but its over quit beating a dead horse.

A dead horse? That thread was created last night for C-sakes.
You would have a point if his apologies lasted more than a few hours. Look at him now, still carrying on and now even throwing religion into the mix. How far will these people go to get that glorious taste of blood on their tongues? I would absolutely accept any apology, but then don't go right back to doing the same thing again. It renders the apology useless and meaningless. Maliciousness is the only word I can find to describe it.
I am probably as sick of this garbage forum as you are. There is obviously nothing that can be done about it, short of moderation.

perhaps you need a short vacation



i ain't sick of this Forum . . . disrespect makes the "garbage" . . .

stop stoking the flames.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
If you haven't seen that thread, then I would definately suggest you take a look at it. Truly amazing. Take a peek.

Keys if you haven't noticed SickBeast apoligized, he can't take back what he did on that thread but he can apoligize to Rollo for doing something that was inappropriate, that thread was over the top but its over quit beating a dead horse.

A dead horse? That thread was created last night for C-sakes.
You would have a point if his apologies lasted more than a few hours. Look at him now, still carrying on and now even throwing religion into the mix. How far will these people go to get that glorious taste of blood on their tongues? I would absolutely accept any apology, but then don't go right back to doing the same thing again. It renders the apology useless and meaningless. Maliciousness is the only word I can find to describe it.
I am probably as sick of this garbage forum as you are. There is obviously nothing that can be done about it, short of moderation.

Well according to you, Rollo should be the mod. WTF is that?

I already apologized to the both of you. If you want to be a baby about it, be my guest.

BTW you need a religion.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: fierydemise

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
If you haven't seen that thread, then I would definately suggest you take a look at it. Truly amazing. Take a peek.

Keys if you haven't noticed SickBeast apoligized, he can't take back what he did on that thread but he can apoligize to Rollo for doing something that was inappropriate, that thread was over the top but its over quit beating a dead horse.

A dead horse? That thread was created last night for C-sakes.
You would have a point if his apologies lasted more than a few hours. Look at him now, still carrying on and now even throwing religion into the mix. How far will these people go to get that glorious taste of blood on their tongues? I would absolutely accept any apology, but then don't go right back to doing the same thing again. It renders the apology useless and meaningless. Maliciousness is the only word I can find to describe it.
I am probably as sick of this garbage forum as you are. There is obviously nothing that can be done about it, short of moderation.

perhaps you need a short vacation

He already lives in Florida, so why don't we make it a little more serious?

Life is a vacation in the Baja, isn't it apoppin?

If only you guys knew what snow was like.

 

[SickBeast]

One question: Is AEG a "religion"? :Q

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: apoppin
There are no "animals" here . . . just people.

Hey watch it, you're gonna hurt my feelings.

I'm trying to promote "Munky Marks". :Q

ok . . . maybe that was a bad example


and have you set up your multi-level promotional campaign yet?
i have a great idea for a Word of Mouth Campaign . . . i learned a lot in the last few weeks.
:shocked:

Our method seems to be that if you promote the program you get to be in the credits. :Q

I got "Original concept by SickBeast".

I'm not sure what you would get.

I'm drawing a monkey tomorrow, and will post it tomorrow night. I do need munky's input tho. If it's "Planet of the Apes"-esque, please forgive me.

Is my sig not sufficient?