What price wars? nVidia's pricing didn't really budge!
Of course it isn't to you. You support team green this time around - you're heavily invested. Why would it be normal too you?
Gaia gave a good recount, and historically that his how it has happened - the first to launch their top tier, sells for more than the previous performance crown. History repeats itself, yet again. But that isn't normal, at least to you - who's openly said they have no intentions to even buy AMD. Funny.
That's not true and have owned virtually every higher-end Chip from the Original Radeon to the x1900 XTX CrossFire platform. As of late -- been pro-nVidia based on flexibility and gaming experience potential but don't ignore AMD -- that would be foolish based on their talent. I'm a regular at Rage and been posting there for over a decade.
I just don't know what to do!
The GTX 280 was priced at 650 dollars. Enthusiasts and early adopters purchased the product and AMD's commitment to the sweet spot? AMD's HD4870 was priced at 299 dollar even though the high end market price was 650 dollars. They could of priced them at 499 or 449 but there was a commitment that did get the ball rolling on this strategy that followed to the 6970/6950.
That's not always the case when one has a commitment to the sweet spot -- see the 5870/5850 pricing.
That's not true and have owned virtually every higher-end Chip from the Original Radeon to the x1900 XTX CrossFire platform. As of late -- been pro-nVidia based on flexibility and gaming experience potential but don't ignore AMD -- that would be foolish based on their talent. I'm a regular at Rage and been posting there for over a decade.
Amd is taking great strides and now is offering DirectX 10 and 11 super-sampled and transparency -- things that were important to me and notice.
but in short AMD has committed to designing GPUs for the mainstream $199 - $299 segment
Exactly, why would it make sense that the team you currently don't support makes a move that follows all known trends? You'll keep arguing because it doesn't matter to you. You aren't shifting sides, so why even argue price?
The relatively high price of the present AMD generation would only matter if they were unable to sell their stock and had standing inventory. They don't; they're all sold out.
They're definitely NOT sold out, a lot of them were bought for re-sale on e-bay, where they're widely available (i.e., not selling that well). That makes it hard to draw any conclusions about the initial price, other than it was a price ebay re-sellers (perhaps incorrectly) found economical for markup.
I think I speak for everyone when I say, STFU about the "small die" and "sweet spot" strategy. We get it, you've made your point abundantly clear, for the 100th time.This is getting to be too much now:
AMD's "Small-Die" Strategy
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2556/2
Now, for the most part this commitment was there as there was impressive performance/value at these segments.
Go premiums!
Exactly, sold out. AMD sells them to a vendor, they get their cash. Vendor sells them, they order more. Go to newegg.com and tell me how many 7970 SKU's are currently in stock.
AMD and the vendors would only care about after-market sales on eBay if that had an effect on retail sales.
Let's settle this once and for all. According to Keysplayr, an Nvidia focus group member:Now, for the most part this commitment was there as there was impressive performance/value at these segments.
Go premiums!
/endAn the green team, if you're referring to me, thinks the 7970 is a really nice card. It is priced where it is supposed to be.
Sorry but GTX285 was at $399 not $300 when HD5870 was launched. HD5870 at launch time was faster and cheaper than GTX285.
Hell, even HD5850 was faster and cheaper than GTX285 when launched
ATI/AMD steadily raises prices year over year in the high end graphics cards,
HD3870 and HD3850 launched at $219 and $179,
HD4870 and HD4850 launched at $299 and $199,
HD5870 and HD5850 launched at $379 and $259,
HD6970 and HD6950 didn't see a raise,
HD7970 launched at $549 and soon to be released HD7850 at $449
New HDxx50 cards were always faster and cheaper than last gen cards, HD4850 was faster and cheaper than HD3870, HD5850 was faster and cheaper than HD4870.
Now if HD7850 will be launched at $449 it will be faster but not cheaper than HD6970 :\ :thumbsdown:
I think I speak for everyone when I say, STFU about the "small die" and "sweet spot" strategy. We get it, you've made your point abundantly clear, for the 100th time.
Let's settle this once and for all. According to Keysplayr, an Nvidia focus group member:
/end
Also
4850 performs almost as well as 3870 crossfire
5850 is 50% faster than 4870
6950 cant really beat 5870 except in tessellation but is a little cheaper
7950 will barely beat a 6970 but cost a lot more
Apparently the selling point for these latest 7900 cards will be 28nm technology and superior power saving. That will somewhat justify their massive price increase.
AMD is the Predator then Intel (cpu's), Nvidia (gpu's) has to be the Aliens !
Hehe, the shot may need some corporation color to help differentiate them a bit more. Alien or Predator but both may be very aggressive and my fear is like the old days of premium escalation that trickles down to all price-points.
Go Premiums!
I think I speak for everyone when I say, STFU about the "small die" and "sweet spot" strategy. We get it, you've made your point abundantly clear, for the 100th time.