lol as many people predicted *cough*
Well most thought around $300 or so, we'll see what happens should be funny either way.
Well most thought around $300 or so, we'll see what happens should be funny either way.
Take into consideration these are watered down results including 1024 x 768, and the lack of enhancements. Using these makes them all much closer than they really are.
Price: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/01/23/exclusive-and-the-nvidia-keplergk104-price-is/
$299
Definitely nVidia's RV770.
So Charlie is saying a $300 card is going to beat a $450 (7950) one? The day nvidia plays the cost card to undercut AMD is the day we get rides on unicorns that crap skittles.
So Charlie is saying a $300 card is going to beat a $450 (7950) one? The day nvidia plays the cost card to undercut AMD is the day we get rides on unicorns that crap skittles.
7950 doesn't "cost" $450, that's just what they plan to sell it for.
Just like the 7970 doesn't "cost" $550 thus arguing it's a "$550 card" isn't the right way to go about it since the market decides the price and currently it is the top card which means AMD is basing pricing off the current market not whatever the future may hold.
Let's hope that's what Nvidia does, because if the "$450" card is slower than this than we're looking at mid ranged cards costing $450+ with high end cards eclipsing $600.
Let's say nVidia prices at 299 and has competitive performance to a 550 dollar price range -- there may be backlash for AMD and their partners; and their consumers may not be happy and may have to offer rebates and drastic price reductions.
It could be the polar opposite of what happened with the GTX-280 and HD 4870.
If AMD plays it classy ala nVidia during the 8800 ultra days, I'm fine with that. I win as a consumer!
However, I'd hope the price cuts come BEFORE the MSI Lightining launches that way I don't have to wait for no stinking rebates
HD 7970 @ $350 with monster OC capabilities, yes please!
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People's memories are hazy. It wasn't nvidia who offered the rebates, it was AIBs, and not all of them. As I recall EVGA, BFG and XFX were offering them, if you had bought a 280 from a different vendor - you got shafted.
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Loving it.
Nvidia fanboys taking Charlie/SA rumours as gospel. In for some shellshock when the reality of what ends up launching at different price points comes to fruition.
LOL, people actually think Nvidia would release a 299$ card that can match the 7970? How can you fanboy over a company and not even know how they work?
This is the same company that released the 649$ GTX 280 only to drop it 200$ in price 2 weeks later... Nvidia will do anything to get the highest possible price-point, they would never make a move like that, either the card has average performance which justifies the 299$, or it will be priced at 500$ instead
It can't be worse than the MSRP percentage raise from AMD -- then again with all this vocal premium love it could be possible.
I agree, though NVDA is also probably pissed at losing so much market share, so this could be their way of striking back. (Also, NVDA can afford to subsidize gamers by selling the same chips with DP enabled for HPC and professional graphics customers.) But then again, I am in the camp that believes that GK104 is NOT at Tahiti-like performance levels when comparing overclocked vs. overclocked or stock vs. stock.
I think Charlie calling GK104 a winner, is based more on financials than on price/perf to the end consumer. Apparently GK104 is a relatively small chip that nevertheless probably overclocks to the level of a stock Tahiti or so. If you overclock the Tahiti chip, though, obviously it will be faster again. If that's the case, the GK104 = RV770 comparison might be made.
Also note that GK104 has 1GB less of the highest-end GDDR5 than Tahiti, so it will be cheaper for that reason, as well as having a smaller chip, and probably also a lower TDP and thus requires less robust PCB and components like voltage regulation, fan, vapor chamber, etc.
My guess is you simply are not used to being a purchaser of high end GPUs or have little context for the history of video card pricing.
I can remember paying between $500 and $750 for the top end card for years now. 9800Pro, X1900XT, X800XT-PE, 8800GTX, GTX480 and soon - 7970. You seem to have personalized the whole pricing of these cards too much. It's as if you feel a company is your friend and made a commitment to you because they sold you some hardware at a good price that one time... wait.. you didn't buy a 5870 or 5850.. hmmm...
Well, back on track, these are businesses and they know what they're doing better than even the smallest marginal clue you have about what they are doing. Sold out 7970s, as predicted - proved you wrong.
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LOL, people actually think Nvidia would release a 299$ card that can match the 7970? How can you fanboy over a company and not even know how they work?
This is the same company that released the 649$ GTX 280 only to drop it 200$ in price 2 weeks later... Nvidia will do anything to get the highest possible price-point, they would never make a move like that, either the card has average performance which justifies the 299$, or it will be priced at 500$ instead
LOL, people actually think Nvidia would release a 299$ card that can match the 7970? How can you fanboy over a company and not even know how they work?
This is the same company that released the 649$ GTX 280 only to drop it 200$ in price 2 weeks later... Nvidia will do anything to get the highest possible price-point, they would never make a move like that, either the card has average performance which justifies the 299$, or it will be priced at 500$ instead
You mean 9800 XT!!! $500 if I remember right. . The only time I bought a card under $300 (HD 4850) I quickly regretted it and picked up a 4870 X2 when they launched. It was that or a second 4850, but I wanted to try a dual GPU single card solution (never going to do that again haha, not because of the 4870x2, just when it comes to sell it is a pain.)
My guess is you simply are not used to being a purchaser of high end GPUs or have little context for the history of video card pricing.
I can remember paying between $500 and $750 for the top end card for years now. 9800Pro, X1900XT, X800XT-PE, 8800GTX, GTX480 and soon - 7970. You seem to have personalized the whole pricing of these cards too much. It's as if you feel a company is your friend and made a commitment to you because they sold you some hardware at a good price that one time... wait.. you didn't buy a 5870 or 5850.. hmmm...
Well, back on track, these are businesses and they know what they're doing better than even the smallest marginal clue you have about what they are doing. Sold out 7970s, as predicted - proved you wrong with the thousands and thousands of buyers out there who have snapped up all the 7970s and are enjoying the new level of performance brought by them.
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