Nvidia's Future GTX 580 Graphics Card Gets Pictured (Rumours)

Sickamore

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If these claims are indeed true and the board pictured is truly the GTX 580 then Nvidia must have improved their performance per Watt since this thing seems surprisingly small considering its rumored specs that state this single-GPU monster will come with 512 stream processing units, compared to the 480 SPs used in its current flagship, the GTX 480.

Since this cooler bears an uncanny resemblance with the one pictured in the very fist images that were leaked before the GTX 480 was released it is possible that Nvidia is testing this card at lower clock speeds in order to see how it will perform, the final version of the cooler being finalized much nearer to the launch date.

If this is to be the case, we may as well see a somewhat larger cooling solution being employed in the retail GTX 580 graphics card, details being pretty sketchy at this moment.

Unfortunately, no other infos were divulged along with these pictures so all that we know until know is that the GTX 580 will allegedly come with 128 texturing units and a 512-bit wide memory bus (although there are some sources that state this will be kept at 384 bits as in the present day GF100 architecture).

Whatever it may end up being the case, thing are set to become really interesting in the graphics arena since rumors state that the GTX 580 will be launched sometime this year, competing with the future Radeon HD 6900 series that is going to hit the market in late November, so get ready for an interesting fight.


link here
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-s-Future-GTX-580-Graphics-Card-Gets-Pictured-163552.shtml
 
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Tsavo

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"Is that your new GTX 580?"

"What?"

"I said, is that your new GTX 580?"

"Why would I want Gore-Tex and fried babies?"
 
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Grooveriding

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I will add some info I posted about this card from another thread. This info came from Chiphell from Napoleon. This chap is rarely wrong, these cards are all made in China, I've always assumed he must have friends and/or works himself withing the production facilities there.

'On this topic, Chiphell has some speculation/rumors on GTX 5XX series. Napoleon generally has decent info and got quite a bit right about the 6XXX and 5XXX launches. He is saying there is expectation NV is releasing what they're going to call GTX 580 and GTX 570 at the end of November to try and offset the 6970/6950 launch. GTX 560 is claimed to be next year. He has pegged GTX 580 clockspeed at 772core/1102memory with 80% the power draw of the GTX 480.

Estimates per his rumors are GTX 570=GTX 480 and GTX580=GTX480+20%. The rumor has some sense to it over the 384sp 460 rumors. That card will hold no water against 6950 and 6970 which is expected to perform as 6950=GTX 480, 6970=GTX480+20-30%. NV will probably prefer to move all the 460 stock they can before they release a replacement as well and I can see why they will delay that card's replacement until next year.

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...oB5bShAMFCrJUw


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blastingcap

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I will add some info I posted about this card from another thread. This info came from Chiphell from Napoleon. This chap is rarely wrong, these cards are all made in China, I've always assumed he must have friends and/or works himself withing the production facilities there.

'On this topic, Chiphell has some speculation/rumors on GTX 5XX series. Napoleon generally has decent info and got quite a bit right about the 6XXX and 5XXX launches. He is saying there is expectation NV is releasing what they're going to call GTX 580 and GTX 570 at the end of November to try and offset the 6970/6950 launch. GTX 560 is claimed to be next year. He has pegged GTX 580 clockspeed at 772core/1102memory with 80% the power draw of the GTX 480.

Estimates per his rumors are GTX 570=GTX 480 and GTX580=GTX480+20%. The rumor has some sense to it over the 384sp 460 rumors. That card will hold no water against 6950 and 6970 which is expected to perform as 6950=GTX 480, 6970=GTX480+20-30%. NV will probably prefer to move all the 460 stock they can before they release a replacement as well and I can see why they will delay that card's replacement until next year.

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...oB5bShAMFCrJUw


http://translate.googleusercontent.c...XH4r3EYj1Y5YsQ
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Thanks for the info, this ought to be very interesting. NV has the last-mover advantage here because Cayman will come out and NV can crank their clocks up just enough to edge Cayman, even if it means a harsher binning process and/or more power/heat/noise.
 

Nintendesert

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I hope it's true, that way the 6970 and it will drive each other's prices down and keep the resellers honest. I'm tired of the big markups on these cards.
 
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Napoleon is most likely at an AIB.. his info is accurate for the previous gen releases but for the 6K series he was off. Said it was 1280sp, then 960sp for Barts. Also got clock speeds and architecture wrong.

He got the pictures and perf right because they have the cards at hand for testing and snaps.. but spec details, its all from AMD briefings.

As for NV waiting for Cayman release, it's more they are waiting until they have confirmed the official specs/perf of Cayman. They can then adjust the gtx580 clockspeeds to be competitive. They couldn't do that with current GPUs so it was a big price drop to spoil AMD's release.

Both companies are quite good current lywith anti-leaks.. so few info is coming out. I'm looking forward to the gtx580 vs cayman battle, competition is great.
 

blastingcap

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Napoleon is most likely at an AIB.. his info is accurate for the previous gen releases but for the 6K series he was off. Said it was 1280sp, then 960sp for Barts. Also got clock speeds and architecture wrong.

He got the pictures and perf right because they have the cards at hand for testing and snaps.. but spec details, its all from AMD briefings.

As for NV waiting for Cayman release, it's more they are waiting until they have confirmed the official specs/perf of Cayman. They can then adjust the gtx580 clockspeeds to be competitive. They couldn't do that with current GPUs so it was a big price drop to spoil AMD's release.

Both companies are quite good current lywith anti-leaks.. so few info is coming out. I'm looking forward to the gtx580 vs cayman battle, competition is great.

So.... any explanation as to why 68xx isn't an average of 10% faster than 58xx in DX11 games like you predicted? You blamed it on old drivers, but AFAIK that isn't the reason?
 

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Needs more wood.

Thread-crapping is not acceptable.

Moderator Idontcare
 
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Idontcare

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thanks for the info.

IDC mabe we should have an official gtx 5xxx series rumor thread?

I would support it on two conditions:

(1) The thread's OP is OK with their thread becoming a sticky...that means they need to understand that as a sticky the expectation is that they will routinely update the OP to contain the most recently "valid" information and retire the stale info as it is disproved in time.

(2) More than one person requests a sticky for the GTX580 thread...remember the forum voted that it didn't want uber-threads, so there needs to be a compelling body of community members who want a specific GTX5xx thread.

The reason i changed the name. Last time i posted info i was in trouble for spreading false info when i was innocent. I want to make that i do it right this time.

I'm going to address this here publicly because we don't want misunderstandings to go unaddressed and if you are confused about the topic then I'm sure there are others who are confused as well. So let's just put all those concerns to rest for everyone in one fell swoop.

You were not in trouble for spreading false info. You were innocent.

Innocently posting false info does not get you in trouble.

What landed you in trouble, temporarily, was that you eventually came to realize that the info you posted was indeed false and yet you still did not want to change the thread title (for a brief moment).

Once you changed the title, and recognized why there was a fuss about it, you were once again "not in trouble".

On the topic of this thread - adding a comment like "(rumors)" is a good idea and will never be a bad thing to do. Likewise you will see people make threads and start them with "FUDZ: ..." or "S/A: ..." and the purpose is to communicate that the thread title is an article title and where the article originates.

Just to touch on it one more time, you will never be in trouble for making threads that discuss things...but if you post a thread title that turns out at some point to be communicating a false thing then the expectation is that you will take action to change the title so that it no longer communicates a false statement.

Moderator Idontcare
 

Grooveriding

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I mentioned this in the other thread as well.

This card in my opinion is what the GTX 480 was supposed to be and now they've had another six months to get it where they wanted it. More performance, less power draw/heat, if Napoleon's statements are correct.
 

busydude

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I mentioned this in the other thread as well. This card in my opinion is what the GTX 480 was supposed to be and now they've had another six months to get it where they wanted it. More performance, less power draw/heat, if Napoleon's statements are correct.

So, does a(or two) 580's have a place in your rig?
 

faxon

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"Is that your new GTX 580?"

"What?"

"I said, is that your new GTX 580?"

"Why would I want Gore-Tex and fried babies?"


Thread-crapping is not acceptable.

Moderator Idontcare
IDC you must not have got the point of his post, its supposed to be a joke. tsavo makes a lot of posts like that meant as jokes, i guess you missed it (play on words), not meant to be a thread crap. look at my sig :biggrin:. or am i missing it, and were not even allowed any humor in the technical forums any longer?
 
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Tsavo

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IDC you must not have got the point of his post, its supposed to be a joke. tsavo makes a lot of posts like that meant as jokes, i guess you missed it (play on words), not meant to be a thread crap. look at my sig :biggrin:. or am i missing it, and were not even allowed any humor in the technical forums any longer?

Yep. The point of my post was that the 580's fan is destined to be loud. You need to relax a little, IDC.
 

Grooveriding

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So, does a(or two) 580's have a place in your rig?

I am taking a pass on 580/6970 after looking at it. Not enough of a performance leap in the 580 it looks like, reminds me more of what GTX 280 to 285 was than what GTX 280 to GTX 480 was

I think 6970 will be fast as well, but I would have to see 140% of a 480 to think it was worth it, that and the wife has planned an expensive vacation and I can't really sensibly afford to blow that kind of money in such a frivolous way right now

My bets are on 6990x2 in quad-fire being a really monster setup with the 6 series' scaling improvements and of course another for the lunatics will be 4x580 SLI.

I don't think the 580 will be a big enough leap for someone with one or more 480s to make it, unless you have an EVGA card in the step-up window, I unfortunately have Zotacs or else I would of probably gone that way.
 

Idontcare

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IDC you must not have got the point of his post, its supposed to be a joke. tsavo makes a lot of posts like that meant as jokes, i guess you missed it (play on words), not meant to be a thread crap. look at my sig :biggrin:. or am i missing it, and were not even allowed any humor in the technical forums any longer?

Yep. The point of my post was that the 580's fan is destined to be loud. You need to relax a little, IDC.

Yep, it would appear that my sarcasm meter has dead batteries tonight

In my defense, I was responding to a reported post so I took it for what it said to be true and I didn't see it otherwise on first review.

I'll remove the mod-edit and reverse the infraction...but both you guys need to know this is not acceptable precedence to do a mod challenge in the thread itself. You are supposed to plead your case for infraction reversals in Moderator Discussions.

Please don't let it (public mod challenge) happen again, I don't mind being challenged but it bothers me that here I am making posts about me in a thread that is not supposed to be about me...that makes my own post a thread-derail and it just doesn't sit right with me at a personal level.

So please, everyone, keep the mod-discussions in the proper sub-forum out of respect for the thread and the thread's OP.

Moderator Idontcare
 
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