NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 10-Series (Mobile Pascal)

[exar333]

Less than 1-inch with a 1070. Nice.

Yeah, that's pretty impressive.

 

[USER8000]

In the old thread someone posted that the 1070 laptop part was a more "full" part than the 1070 desktop, which is why it scaled so well while underclocked. Anyone have more info on that or remember what post it was?

Its a 2048 shader SKU instead of the 1920 shaders in the desktop GTX1070.

 

[Head1985]

Its a 2048 shader SKU instead of the 1920 shaders in the desktop GTX1070.

Real problem is 3xGPC vs 4xGPC.
Mobile have full 4xGPC just like GTX1080.Desktop have only 3xGPC.

Btw computer base benchmarks:
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08...le-test/2/#abschnitt_die_taktraten_unter_last

Only 3% slower than desktop version but with 150mhz lower clocks.Like i said before Mobile version with 4xGPC is much faster at same clock vs desktop version.

IN GTA5 its even Faster than Desktop version despite have 8% lower clocks...

 

[IEC]

Very nice. Performance on par with top tier desktop graphics cards from last generation in a mobile chip.

With the 4xGPC + more CUDA cores at a lower clock it is going to have excellent power efficiency.

If it is priced right I will certainly look for it in my next notebook computer purchase. If not, the GTX 1060 might be "good enough" - we will have to wait and see.

Edit: Ouch, at the price of new notebooks with the 1060. I'll wait until there is a Dell i7559 equivalent with 6700K and 1060 for less than a grand...

 

[Sweepr]

HardwareCanucks just reviewed mobile GTX 1070:

From the manufacturer’s side of this coin, NVIDIA has supposedly been quite conservative with their reference clocks on the GTX 1080, GTX 1070 and GTX 1060 for notebooks. As a result and like we’ve continually seen from add-in board partners, some gaming laptops could come pre-overclocked out of the box.

There’s absolutely no denying that NVIDIA’s Pascal architecture will usher in a revolution within the gaming notebook space. The GTX 1080, GTX 1070 and GTX 1060 will be a dream come true for system integrators since they’re now able to shoehorn some impressive graphics horsepower into thin and light chassis. While I can only speak to my experience with a lone GTX 1070-based product thus far (more about the incredible ASUS G752 below), all indicators point towards these new GPUs being the quantum leap NVIDIA promised.

Perhaps the most incredible thing about this launch is how little has been sacrificed on the performance front. Previous generations of mobile GPUs cast aside cores, memory capacity and frequency to achieve TDPs necessary for their integration into even the largest of gaming notebooks. Indeed, while past GPU architectures claimed to offer desktop performance for the notebook market, the difference between theory and reality could be measured in light-years. Pascal graphics cores on the other hand have been ported as completely holistic entities with only some minor cut in base clocks. Not only will this provide true high end performance but it’s been achieved without revising those already-stringent notebook design specs and it’s those guidelines that have effectively cut AMD out of this segment. As a matter of face these cards are so damn capable that users could face the very real possibility of CPU bottlenecking at 1080P, particularly with low voltage mobile processors.

www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73229-pascal-goes-mobile-gtx-1070-notebook-review.html

 

[railven]

Mother of God dem prices!!! Aside of sticker shock, really is interesting to see how well NV is executing considering the node shortage(s). I'll be on Pascal this weekend! I feel like I'm out of the loop

 

[CFP]

The gaming on the go sweet-spot is probably going to be the GTX 1060 paired with a 1080p screen in a 13/14 inch slim body, ala the new Razor Blade.

At 1080p, the x60 packs more than enough punch that you're not making too many sacrifices on graphics settings, and it allows you to still get a portable package.

I don't really consider the 15 inchers all that portable and 17 inchers may as well just be called AIO SFF PCs.

 

[Jaydip]

[TS] 1080 SLI Review
http://www.in.techspot.com/reviews/...-gtx-1080-sli-review/articleshow/53766465.cms

 

[Sweepr]

Mobile GTX 1060 tested as well:

www.notebookcheck.com/Nvidia-Pascal-Grafikchips-fuer-Notebooks-Geforce-GTX-1080-SLI-GTX-1070-und-GTX-1060-im-grossen-Benchmark-Vergleich.171219.0.html

87% the gaming performance of the desktop version, probably closer if they were using the same CPU/RAM.

 

[DamZe]

This begs the question why have a gimped 1070 desktop edition? Was it killing them to include the last 128 SM cluster, I mean come on nVIDIA...

 

[Keysplayr]

Where is the logic in this question?

 

[Sweepr]

More desktop vs mobile comparisons:

 

[Tweak155]

Pretty impressive benchmarks... wonder if they'll see a premium bump like we did for desktop.

 

[Bacon1]

How are the notebook parts running faster than the desktop parts?

 

[jpiniero]

How are the notebook parts running faster than the desktop parts?

Overclocked memory. They are still laptop in name though; the 1080's TDP is 150.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I for one am very impressed. The microcenter in my area has several laptops with the 1060, starting around 1500.00. Yes, expensive, but for the performance, I think it is quite reasonable, considering older models with the 960m were a thousand or more. Only thing I did not notice is if they were 3 or 6 gb models.

 

[Qwertilot]

This begs the question why have a gimped 1070 desktop edition? Was it killing them to include the last 128 SM cluster, I mean come on nVIDIA...

Much bigger margins on the notebook parts. Also a need to use the mildly faulty dies somewhere.

 

[Head1985]

Much bigger margins on the notebook parts. Also a need to use the mildly faulty dies somewhere.

Nvida cant make proper cutdown card.
GTX970-3.5GB and 224bit
GTX1070-only 3xGPC and 33% less SP than 1080, 48Rops.
Last 2 generation was just bad to even worse.
Last i remember normal cutdown card like AMD is making was GTX670.Why they cant make normal cutdown card like RX470 vs 480 or 380x vs 380 or 290 vs 290x?

 

[bystander36]

Only fail here is you stop trolling.
If you downlock Desktop version to mobile version clock and set same TDP you can compare both cards.

mobile version with 4xGPC is way faster at same clock and TDP than desktop.

Its 10% at 1080P and more at 4k.

The desktop version has a boost clock that is 38mhz faster. That would not overcome any other deficiencies, unless that boost clock can't be achieved.

 

[SolMiester]

This begs the question why have a gimped 1070 desktop edition? Was it killing them to include the last 128 SM cluster, I mean come on nVIDIA...

Sigh, if they included the last cluster it would be a 1080....think about it!

 

[Head1985]

Sigh, if they included the last cluster it would be a 1080....think about it!

It will not be 1080.It will be like every other normal cutdown card.Not gimped crap like desktop version is now.You can see from youtube that there are scenes where GTX1080 is even more than 30% faster than 1070 at same clock...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPnKj9sfiZM
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/4

EDIT:1070 with 2048SP and 4xGPC the 1080 still have 25% MORE SP.That is more than enough to have large performance gap.But it will not be 30% but 15-20 max.

In this scene GTX1080 is 30% faster than 1070. We already know Mobile 1070 version is around 10% faster at same clock than desktop.GTX1070 have 46fps and GTX1080 59Fps.With 4xGPC and 2048SP GTX1070 will have 51fps so GTX1080 would be 15% faster and not 30% faster
https://youtu.be/QPnKj9sfiZM?t=55

 

[ShintaiDK]

GTX1070-only 3xGPC and 33% less SP than 1080, 48Rops.

The 1070 got 64 ROPs. If it had 48 ROPs it would be a 192bit card.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It will not be 1080.It will be like every other normal cutdown card.Not gimped crap like desktop version is now.You can see from youtube that there are scenes where GTX1080 is even more than 30% faster than 1070 at same clock...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPnKj9sfiZM
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2016/08/23/deus-ex-mankind-divided-benchmarked/4

EDIT:1070 with 2048SP and 4xGPC the 1080 still have 25% MORE SP.That is more than enough to have large performance gap.But it will not be 30% but 15-20 max.

In this scene GTX1080 is 30% faster than 1070. We already know Mobile 1070 version is around 10% faster at same clock than desktop.GTX1070 have 46fps and GTX1080 59Fps.With 4xGPC and 2048SP GTX1070 will have 51fps so GTX1080 would be 15% faster and not 30% faster
https://youtu.be/QPnKj9sfiZM?t=55

Honestly man, you have spent a lot of time and energy talking about why the 1070 sucks and NVIDIA should have made it differently. If that's the case, why did you buy it?

 

[dark zero]

Sorry guys, but the way how nVIDIA is showing the 1070 for desktop now is like saying, hi, I'll give you a gimped and screwed up card.

Meanwhile... that 1060... is really decent.

Well, time to wait for the counterparts which came LATE again...

 

[linkgoron]

Honestly man, you have spent a lot of time and energy talking about why the 1070 sucks and NVIDIA should have made it differently. If that's the case, why did you buy it?

Someone can be disappointed that the 1070 is "too" cut down for a 70 part and still buy it. If someone wants a new high-end card and wants to spend ~400$, the 1070 is a better buy than the 980ti, and AMD have nothing in that price range/performance.

I'm sure that there are people that are disappointed that the Titan X (P) is cut down and costs 1200$, yet they still bought one. People make compromises all the time. Anyway, he did not say that it sucks (unless I missed it?), just that it is disappointing that the 1070 is "too" cut down, especially given the 1070 mobile version.