NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 10-Series (Mobile Pascal)

[Head1985]

Someone can be disappointed that the 1070 is "too" cut down for a 70 part and still buy it. If someone wants a new high-end card and wants to spend ~400$, the 1070 is a better buy than the 980ti, and AMD have nothing in that price range/performance.

I'm sure that there are people that are disappointed that the Titan X (P) is cut down and costs 1200$, yet they still bought one. People make compromises all the time. Anyway, he did not say that it sucks (unless I missed it?), just that it is disappointing that the 1070 is "too" cut down, especially given the 1070 mobile version.

Yeah...Its because NV have MONOPOLY.What options i have if i play in 1440P?
Furyx 4GB no thanks
3years old 290/390x no thanks
rx480 is new tech, but slow for 1440p.
Only option is GTX1070 and that card is cutdown to the point its not really "real" GTX1070(real GTX1070 is mobile version) and on top of that GTX1070 cost outside USA freaking 50% more than GTX970 cost day1.
So i buy it, but that dont mean i will not criticized it.There should be no way cutdown GTX1070 is close to 30% slower than GTX1080 no freaking way.Those new cards should be in same performance tier and not that GAP is large(or same) than is vs GTX1080 and TITANXP(GTX1070 and 1080 have same SKU.TITANXP have BIG SKU no way the gap is same vs them)
Its far worse than GTX970 with 3.5GB and 224bit.

It looks like NV dont know how to make proper cutdown card.They even cut GTX1060 and still call it GTX1060 3GB...(it should be GTX1050TI) same as Desktop GTX1070 version is not GTX1070 but it should be GTX1060TI or something)

 

[pj-]

They know exactly how to make a cutdown card. The reason it's not a great bargain is because it doesn't have to be. Why on earth would nvidia make a better 1070? You bought the shitty one they decided to make. They win.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Only option is GTX1070 and that card is cutdown to the point its not really "real" GTX1070(real GTX1070 is mobile version) and on top of that GTX1070 cost outside USA freaking 50% more than GTX970 cost day1.

No it doesn't.

We get it, you feel entitled to something better that you wouldn't pay for. Its been clear even before the release of the card with the endless rants.

 

[Head1985]

They know exactly how to make a cutdown card. The reason it's not a great bargain is because it doesn't have to be. Why on earth would nvidia make a better 1070? You bought the shitty one they decided to make. They win.

Last 2 generations they show that they dont know.
GTX970 and now gtx1070.
GTX1070 is even more cut than GTX970 was.(GTX970 was not 30% or more slower than GTX980)
But yeah its win for NV and loss to every customer.They have monopoly now.

 

[DaveSimmons]

How many people here would volunteer for a pay cut, just because they can survive it?

Nvidia sells cards to make as much profit as they can, not to bring smiles to the good children of the world. That's Santa Claus.

Nvidia spends more on R & D, produces faster cards that use less power, sells those cards for a higher margin since they can get away with it. Which gives them more to spend on R & D for the next cycle.

If AMD could spend more and offer faster cards, Nvidia would be forced to drop prices to compete.

 

[bystander36]

Someone can be disappointed that the 1070 is "too" cut down for a 70 part and still buy it. If someone wants a new high-end card and wants to spend ~400$, the 1070 is a better buy than the 980ti, and AMD have nothing in that price range/performance.

I'm sure that there are people that are disappointed that the Titan X (P) is cut down and costs 1200$, yet they still bought one. People make compromises all the time. Anyway, he did not say that it sucks (unless I missed it?), just that it is disappointing that the 1070 is "too" cut down, especially given the 1070 mobile version.

He's not said he's disappointed, he has called the card crap over and over ad nauseum. Being disappointed is one thing, calling it crap, yet buying it is another.

 

[Sweepr]

NotebookCheck reviews the MSI GS73VR 6RF: 17'', Quad-core + GTX 1060 notebook at only 2.4 kg / <20mm thick

The Pascal series shines when it comes to performance-per-Watt. When idling, the MSI system isn't any more or less power efficient than competing 17-inch gaming notebooks. This changes when subjected to gaming loads as the GS73 draws about 115 W compared to 143 W on the Maxwell GS70. It also demands less power than the Asus GL502VY and its GTX 980M while simultaneously outperforming it in benchmarks and games as shown in our benchmarks above.

...Pascal continues to impress on all fronts as the GTX 1060 offers slightly better performance than the GTX 980M in a chassis that is a fraction of the size compared to Maxwell flagships like the MSI GT72S, Asus G752VY, Alienware 17, and Acer Predator 17.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-GS73VR-6RF-Notebook-Review.172138.0.html

Performance between 980M and 980 'notebook'.

Also Razer updated the Stealth / Stealth Blade with Pascal:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10640/razer-updates-the-razer-blade-and-razer-blade-stealth-at-pax

 

[Sweepr]

Techspot reviewed the MSI GS43VR, one of the most compact laptops with mobile GTX 1060.

In real world games, the GTX 1060 boasts a 51% performance improvement on the GTX 970M, with gains as high as 74% in the memory-heavy Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor. Seeing average gains around 50 percent is very impressive for a graphics chip that doesn’t pack a significantly higher TDP than its predecessor. This allows notebook manufacturers to use a very similar laptop design with a similar cooling system: you don’t need a thicker, heavier cooler to handle the extra performance and power of the GTX 1060.

www.techspot.com/review/1251-msi-gs43vr-6re-phantom-pro

Notebook gaming is on the rise lately. ASUS ROG FX502 (also GTX 1060 based) should be cheaper, starting at $1.249 (perhaps lower) according to LaptopMedia.

 

[Thinker_145]

He's not said he's disappointed, he has called the card crap over and over ad nauseum. Being disappointed is one thing, calling it crap, yet buying it is another.

It's just best to ignore him at this point, he uses worst case scenarios and without even looking at the exact cards used to determine an overall performance deficit. It's pretty much trolling at this point. I am surprised he hasn't put his 1070 on fire yet.

Sent from my HTC One M9

 

[Sweepr]

Notebook GPU Battle - GTX 1070 vs. GTX 980M

For the purposed of this article, I’ll be testing two different cards, both of which are quite similar in a number of ways. The GTX 980M was arguably the mobile flagship of NVIDIA’s Maxwell lineup up until they launched the –for the time- beastly desktop / notebook hybrid GTX 980 into the mix. Its TDP of between 100W and 125W (depending upon its configuration) reaches the Tornado F5’s upper range. Meanwhile, from the Pascal lineup I’ve chosen the GTX 1070 which also hits the 125W mark in this configuration so if anything this comparison should truly show how far NVIDIA’s new architecture has come in the performance per watt department.

Now about these two GPUs, their contrasting performance metrics really do provide a perfect microcosm for the Maxwell to Pascal transition. This GTX 1070 is one of the first and only notebook graphics cards that can truly be considered desktop-class since, due to the inherent efficiencies of their new 16nm manufacturing process, NVIDIA has been able to squeeze a full-monty desktop GPU (without any compromises!) into a notebook form factor. They’ve accomplished this all without any associated losses in efficiency and that alone is a key metric for any on-the-go device.

...I mentioned AMD a few paragraphs ago but they unfortunately remain an enigma in the notebook segment. They needed a rapid cadence into a mobile segment wherein NVIDIA has a monopoly and it looked like Polaris 10 would be the answer to at least the notebook GTX 1060. Now more than three months after its launch and countless NVIDIA design wins later, the RX480 still hasn’t materialized within this segment.

High end gaming notebooks aren’t a volume mover but the thin-and-light space the GTX 1060 plays within will likely prove to be a key factor now and in the future. AMD needs to move forward with their plans for notebooks if they have any hope of wresting back some market share. Plus, I’m getting a bit bored of reviewing the same GeForce cards over and over again…I want some competition!

www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73554-notebook-gpu-battle-gtx-1070-vs-gtx-980m.html

 

[Sweepr]

GTX 1050 Ti for Notebooks

Base core clock 1490 MHz
Boost core clock 1624 MHz
CUDA cores 768
Memory bandwidth 112.1 GB/s
Memory type and size GDDR5, 4GB
Memory interface 128-bit
ROPs / TMUs 32 / 64

http://laptopmedia.com/highlights/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-laptop-specs-and-benchmarks

Clocked higher than the desktop counterpart, ahead of a 100W GTX970M in synthetics. Here's hoping for more affordable Pascal gaming notebooks.

 

[DaveSimmons]

^ that might be the mobile GPU for me. I don't need a desktop replacement, but it would be nice to have something that could play 2015 and older games away from home. Especially if it's $1,000 or less.

 

[Sweepr]

Geforce GTX 1050 Ti - Laptop vs Desktop

Big news here – NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (Laptop) surpasses the performance of the Desktop version!

Actually, this shouldn’t come as a surprise since the laptop version works at higher base and boost clocks, plus it has more TMUs.

http://laptopmedia.com/highlights/n...0-ti-desktop-specs-and-performance-comparison

Apparently the laptop version not only operates at higher clocks but also packs more TMUs (64 vs 48)? If true, now we know where the best GP107 dies are going.

 

[LTC8K6]

That will be the 1050Ti BOOST! card if NV decides it needs one for the desktop market.

 

[Dribble]

These laptop cards are an amazing upgrade. You'd expect the 1050 to optimistically be equal to a 960M going by previous generations gains, but this time it's beating the 970M. 1060 is significantly faster then a 980m. That's huge!

 

[sxr7171]

That will be the 1050Ti BOOST! card if NV decides it needs one for the desktop market.

Or the 1050titi.

 

[sxr7171]

These laptop cards are an amazing upgrade. You'd expect the 1050 to optimistically be equal to a 960M going by previous generations gains, but this time it's beating the 970M. 1060 is significantly faster then a 980m. That's huge!

It's very smart. Backpack VR is what people want. I'd love to have a machine I can wear in a pack and put all that extra cabling in there and not have to worry about tripping over it.

 

[jpiniero]

Apparently the laptop version not only operates at higher clocks but also packs more TMUs (64 vs 48)? If true, now we know where the best GP107 dies are going.

I almost wonder if it is the third cut of GP106.