NWN2 Feed Back and Patch Discussion Thread

[Bateluer]

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The multi select overhaul is what looks good to me. I have mixed feelings about the camera mode changes, and will likely spend most of my time in strategy mode rather than character mode. I know some will love the changes in camera mode though.

 

[murphy55d]

I can't wait for this game. The LE has nothing that makes it seem worth the extra money, some dumb cloth map and other stupid stuff.

 

[IamDavid]

Sure wish they would've supported Linux with this releases like the last.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: IamDavid
Sure wish they would've supported Linux with this releases like the last.

Would be nice but to the company, its all about the money. They see less money in the Linux market so they say "fvck em". Which is sad because I believe it is a real market that no one has had the guts to enter yet.

As for me, I think I'll wait a week until theres a bunch of reviews on the web. I was greatly disappointed by NwN after playing Baldurs Gate 2. Think I need to hold off with this one and see what the general public has to say.

 

[Schadenfroh]

no one has had the guts to enter yet.

id? Bioware? Unreal Tournament?

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

no one has had the guts to enter yet.

id? Bioware? Unreal Tournament?

Nope. You're right. I wasnt thinking about the handful that did try.
Even when I posted I was thinking "wait a sec, my UT2003 discs have a linux install right on them".

Unfortunately it seems those companies didnt go hardcore enough and push the other big guys into doing the same thing.
Much as I dislike EA, they are a big publisher and I'd like to see them make stuff for linux.

Had no idea Bioware tried to break into linux. Which games were you thinking of?

 

[Canai]

I got the cloth map with the first NWN, so I might as well get teh second one too

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

no one has had the guts to enter yet.

id? Bioware? Unreal Tournament?

Nope. You're right. I wasnt thinking about the handful that did try.
Even when I posted I was thinking "wait a sec, my UT2003 discs have a linux install right on them".

Unfortunately it seems those companies didnt go hardcore enough and push the other big guys into doing the same thing.
Much as I dislike EA, they are a big publisher and I'd like to see them make stuff for linux.

Had no idea Bioware tried to break into linux. Which games were you thinking of?

I thought they had a NWN linux version.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I thought they had a NWN linux version.

Perhaps but I wouldnt know. Too pissed off at the Windows version.
I like the D&D 3rd edition rules, but I didnt like have limited control over a single character in a relatively empty world. BG 2 seemed so much more interesting and vibrant to me.

EDIT:
Sorry to rain on the parade of NWN 2. It does look like it will be better than its predecessor and I intend to investigate it soon.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I thought they had a NWN linux version.

Perhaps but I wouldnt know. Too pissed off at the Windows version.
I like the D&D 3rd edition rules, but I didnt like have limited control over a single character in a relatively empty world. BG 2 seemed so much more interesting and vibrant to me.

EDIT:
Sorry to rain on the parade of NWN 2. It does look like it will be better than its predecessor and I intend to investigate it soon.

they have a linux version, you still need to own a windows copy though (the download is free, buy you need the keys)

 

[Bateluer]

Why does some clown always add 2 cents about NWN2 lacking linux support? There isn't any money in it, in fact, they are likely losing money by paying the programmers to make a linux version.

I would like to see more games that work out of the box on linux, but first, linux needs to have the same level of hardware/software/driver support that windows does. If I buy any piece of hardware, doesn't matter what is it, it will work under windows or have windows drivers available. With linux, you need to pick and chose your hardware with care, often leading to underpowered hardware, partially operational hardware, and sometimes you need to buy a more expensive version of a piece of hardware than you would have under windows. Linux is not ready for the gaming prime-time yet. Everyday desktop use is debatable, but for gaming, no. /rant.

I will be buying NWN2 tomorrow, either at lunch or after work.

 

[networkman]

I'll pick it up this week too.

It'll be interesting to see if they fixed some of the things that were problematic in the beta version, but since I'm still under the non-disclosure agreement I can't say what those things were.

 

[imported_Kiwi]

There are some early, very contradictory reports from some of the D2D downloaders. In the six weeks leading up to the release, Obsidian kept tightening their system requirements every couple of weeks. They started out with basically the same (very optimistic) video card support list that Oblivion had (and which was unrealistic in the extreme, with the practical minimum hardware a lot closer to the "Recommended" level than to the stated minimum).

Since then, Obsidian upped the ante on CPU's to P4/ 2.4 GHz equivalent for the minimum, and dropped every video card slower than the Radeon 9500 Pro. Which made sense, *IF* the game engine pushes the hardware as hard as Oblivion's engine does. But now someone claims it runs very well on a puny little 6200? Really wierd stuff here. Either Obsidian seriously exaggerated how difficult the code was to run, or that game- player with the 6200 is lying her head off.

:frown:

 

[Paladin]

The first impressions over at the NW2 forums are VERY good. Great graphics, very emersive, "blown away".
Picking this up tomorrow at lunch for sure.

link

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Kiwi
There are some early, very contradictory reports from some of the D2D downloaders. In the six weeks leading up to the release, Obsidian kept tightening their system requirements every couple of weeks. They started out with basically the same (very optimistic) video card support list that Oblivion had (and which was unrealistic in the extreme).

Since then, they upped the ante on CPU's to P4/ 2.4 GHz equivalent for the minimum, and dropped every video card slower than the Radeon 9500 Pro. Which made sense, *IF* the game engine pushes the hardware as hard as Oblivion's engine does. But now someone claims it runs very well on a puny little 6200? Really wierd stuff here. Either Obsidian seriously exaggerated how difficult the code was to run, or that game- player with the 6200 is lying her head off.
:frown:

I'll take a guess that the user was lying their buttocks off.
I have heard hundreds of times from people that they got such-and-such game to run on their cheap-ass video card when I know darn well its not possible. I think they are either cheap or poor and want folks to believe they are having a good time with the latest and greatest games when their hardware sucks.
Heard claims of folks running Doom3 smoothly on a GeForce 3 when my Radeon 9700Pro was not giving me sufficient frame rates.
That could be the other problem. Some folks out there honestly cant see the difference between 10 frames per second and 60 frames per second.
Not only can I tell the difference but I prefer to be closer to one than the other when I am actually trying to play the game. Especially with a first person shooter.

 

[tuteja1986]

Played it :! Finished it :! reviewed it ! now to gears of war , Wii and PS3.

 

[shortylickens]

OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

'Doesn't seem to write very well' is an understatement to the extreme.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

All I want is BG3 ... is that too much to ask?

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: shortylickens
OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

All I want is BG3 ... is that too much to ask?

BioWare has their hands full. (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, some DS game...)

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: shortylickens
OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

All I want is BG3 ... is that too much to ask?

BioWare has their hands full. (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, some DS game...)

actually, several people from obsidian were former employees of black isle, the co. that made the bg series

 

[dighn]

I'm missing these game releases left and right the upside is I don't have to wait

 

[Bateluer]

He played and beat the entire game in 24 hours? Must be a short campaign. . . or he didn't do any of the side quests and thus experienced no depth.

Having said that, NWN2 was not supposed to be BG3. There will never be a BG3 title, the story lines of all the characters were wrapped up neatly at the end of the ToB expansion. Best you can hope for is a spiritual successor, which Bioware claims will be Dragon Age. As of now, Dragon Age has no publisher, and Bioware is focusing on Mass Effect. They should self publish Dragon Age, IMO.

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Kromis

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: shortylickens
OK, I've seen one player review.

By arjan17
Posted Oct 31, 2006 3:33 am PT
Recommended by 5 out of 106 users. Very nice buuuuut .. if you expect BG3 you will find it very lacking.
I have been a great fan of the D&D franchise, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 expansions and Icewind Dale. I did not really enjoy NVN to much it was to short in my opinion and was way to lineair compared to Baldurs Gate 2. Basicly they are tripping on their own succes with the let's call it old generations. Actualy I think NVM 2 is a good game by itself, gameplay is good 95% stable. But it just lacks a lot of things that previous games had (pre NVN) Getting to the point people who are expecting BG 3 will be sadly dissapointed. Apart from that the game is very interresting and lives up to their promises I'd say. Definitly worth buying if you are a fan of action RPG's but if you expect depth as in BG series better rent first I'd say. It is definitly a lot better then NVN 1 !!! Wich is good by itself

The problem here is the guy doesnt seem to write very well so its hard to trust his opinion. I honestly dont know where he thinks I'm going to rent this game but thats another issue.
My problem is he said exactly what I was fearing: "Nice game but definitely not Baldurs Gate 3".
So I think I'll get it just for fun but will probably have to download some more user mods for BG2 one day.

All I want is BG3 ... is that too much to ask?

BioWare has their hands full. (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, some DS game...)

actually, several people from obsidian were former employees of black isle, the co. that made the bg series

Actually, BioWare developed Baldur's Gate, not Black Isle. Black Isle developed Planescape:Torment and the Icewind Dale games, and PUBLISHED BG1/2, but did not develop the BG series.

 

[shortylickens]

While I understand that the storyline of Baldurs Gate was concluded with the Throne of Bhaal expansion, it doesnt change the fact that I still wanted another two dimensional, computer driven AD&D game. Faerun is a HUGE continent, and in two massive games they only managed to show one campaign on one small section of one coast. Neverwinter Nights and Icewind Dale showed us a little more but not much. The Sword Coast isnt even the most interesting place in Forgotten Realms.

(Those of you who played in the campaign setting on table-top AD&D know what I'm talking about.)