NWN2 Feed Back and Patch Discussion Thread

[Bateluer]

1.03 Patch to be released before Thanksgiving

Apparently they released a 1.02 patch, which had issues and was recalled. A reworked 1.02 hotfix has been released to select users have serious problems to test it out.

Also, the claim is to have a 1.03 patch, which aims to fix not only crashes but as many bugs as possible, ready to go before Thanksgiving. So we'll see it the first week of Dec

 

[Bateluer]

1.02.809 is now live.

http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=515732&forum=109

 

[Bateluer]

Another update by me, this time with some offline patch mirrors.

The Thread

1.00 to 1.01

1.01 to 1.02.809

 

[apoppin]

thanks!
:thumbsup:

i had a mini-vacation [entertaining out of town guests] so i got up to date instantly here with your thread

[i guess it is a vacation . . . i need another one]

and i WILL get the patch sometime today ... with a d/l manager . . . looking forward to finally playing it

 

[murphy55d]

I really like this game. it runs smooth for me at acceptable settings, and i'm getting into the story. I like my character, too.

I'm a half-elf Ranger(7)/Bard(1), working to become an Arcane Archer. I'm in Neverwinter now, and to avoid spoilers, ill just say I'm heading to a warehouse.

Also if anyone cares, there is a way to get the LE feats with just a command on the console, so if you want to know how(and i know some people will say "you shoulda bought the LE to get this", but oh well), just drop me a PM and ill give you the command for both the feats. they are blessed of waukeen and Merchants friend, to get discounts at merchants and access to special items.

 

[waggy]

I finally got it yesterday. no problems with graphics or such.

but i have to say i am disapointed in the game. while i am not very far it seems like a rehash of NWN 1.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: waggy
I finally got it yesterday. no problems with graphics or such.

but i have to say i am disapointed in the game. while i am not very far it seems like a rehash of NWN 1.

It rapidly changes, must more character interaction than NWN2 and a more interesting plot. Still developing where I'm at, but its looking promising. Still hoping it doesn't peter out like KOTOR2 though.

 

[ManBearPig]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Another update by me, this time with some offline patch mirrors.

The Thread

1.00 to 1.01

1.01 to 1.02.809

whats the purpose of giving these links? how do you use them?

thanks

 

[Cynicist]

They see less money in the Linux market so they say "fvck em". Which is sad because I believe it is a real market that no one has had the guts to enter yet.

And they will be getting no money from me because of it. id has the guts, I dont see why they have to be the only ones...

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Heen05

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Another update by me, this time with some offline patch mirrors.

The Thread

1.00 to 1.01

1.01 to 1.02.809

whats the purpose of giving these links? how do you use them?

thanks

Uh . . . you click on the links to DL the patches and install them manually. You read the thread on the NWN2 for updates concerning the patches, how to install them, etc. Some people, particularly those on dialup, are having problems with the updater program. A manual download allows them to use a DL client to get the patch more reliably.

Cynicist - Enough with the linux comments. People running NWN1 under linux is probably under 1% of the total number of people with the game. As such, there wasn't much incentive for Obsidian to make a linux version, especially now that NWN2 is using DX. DX will not work under linux without wrappers, emulators, and much cajoling.

 

[shortylickens]

So now we have to figure out if this new 1.02 patch fixes the old problems and doesnt start any new ones.

Good luck gentlemen!

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
So now we have to figure out if this new 1.02 patch fixes the old problems and doesnt start any new ones.

Good luck gentlemen!

There were some people who were having problems with it crashing before the game could even load fully, but I think they were a minority.

I've been running the 1.02.809 patch since I posted those links and have experienced any instability in the game, but I wasn't experiencing any before either.

 

[Acanthus]

No one has mentioned how the new toolset for the elctron engine is.

How is it compared to the older and very complex aurora editor?

My friends and i loved creating huge muliplayer dungeons to play through in NWN, but all the scripting was pretty prohibitive and the editor was cumbersome at times. Obsidian claims that there is "80% less scripting" now, and that most basic functions for scripting can be selected using menus instead of sifting through code like the old editor.

 

[apoppin]

thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept med textures and NO soft shadows/maps also medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable performance

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

[so i am gonna struggle with it . . . if it's story is as good as KotOR, i will like it ... if not i am setting the DVD on fire and swear to never again play D&D based games]

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: apoppin
thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept textures and NO soft shadows/maps medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

You obviously dont like the entire genre, why would you buy the game and bitch...

As for the graphics, if you cant run max settings, you cant really comment on that either.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin
thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept textures and NO soft shadows/maps medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

You obviously dont like the entire genre, why would you buy the game and bitch...

As for the graphics, if you cant run max settings, you cant really comment on that either.

rubbish

i LOVED KotOR . . . and it is very comparable gameplaywise. EVERTHING for me - in this type of game depends on STORY [i am hoping for a great one]
[and i was mislead on NWN2's combat style]

i don't play Oblivion at Max setting either . . . in fact they are very similar settings . . . so yes, i CAN comment. Oblivion is awesome gfx and far more fluid than NWN2's on my system.

Lighting is nicer and the character's motion is much more 'alive'

PLUS i DID play at maxed out gfx [as in Oblivions] -- except Soft Shadows -- taking the performance hit [which was actually playable at 10x7] .... NWN2's gfx ARE inferior to Oblivions --- in my opinion. i will have a x1950p next month so i can comment even further.

Do you think NWN2's are as good?
:Q

finally i think it is damn annoying it took 10 days to get a simple patch up
:thumbsdown:

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin
thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept textures and NO soft shadows/maps medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

You obviously dont like the entire genre, why would you buy the game and bitch...

As for the graphics, if you cant run max settings, you cant really comment on that either.

rubbish

i LOVED KotOR . . . and it is very comparable gameplaywise. EVERTHING for me - in this type of game depends on STORY [i am hoping for a great one]
[and i was mislead on NWN2's combat style]

i don't play Oblivion at Max setting either . . . in fact they are very similar settings . . . so yes, i CAN comment. Oblivion is awesome gfx and far more fluid than NWN2's on my system.

Lighting is nicer and the character's motion is much more 'alive'

PLUS i DID play at maxed out gfx [as in Oblivions] -- except Soft Shadows -- taking the performance hit [which was actually playable at 10x7] .... NWN2's gfx ARE inferior to Oblivions --- in my opinion. i will have a x1950p next month so i can comment even further.

Do you think NWN2's are as good?
:Q

finally i think it is damn annoying it took 10 days to get a simple patch up
:thumbsdown:

I dont think the graphics equate oblivions, but you have to consider the community they are playing to. You cant have 80 monsters on screen in oblivion. Furthermore i think NWN2 does have superior shadows, especially with multiple light sources. The models are definately lower detail, but theres a reason for it.

As for the combat system, i dont know how you could be mislead, its the same as nwn.

And how long would it take you to write a patch for a game thats 5GB? They are going to have a 3rd out by thanksgiving.

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

Just so you guys know, someone has posted on the NWN2 Bioware forums that the poor performance may be attributable to a bad .NET 2.0 install off the NWN2 disk. He claims that his friend went from the game being totally unplayable to playable after a fresh install of .NET 2.0 + patch direct from the MS website.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin
thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept textures and NO soft shadows/maps medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

You obviously dont like the entire genre, why would you buy the game and bitch...

As for the graphics, if you cant run max settings, you cant really comment on that either.

rubbish

i LOVED KotOR . . . and it is very comparable gameplaywise. EVERTHING for me - in this type of game depends on STORY [i am hoping for a great one]
[and i was mislead on NWN2's combat style]

i don't play Oblivion at Max setting either . . . in fact they are very similar settings . . . so yes, i CAN comment. Oblivion is awesome gfx and far more fluid than NWN2's on my system.

Lighting is nicer and the character's motion is much more 'alive'

PLUS i DID play at maxed out gfx [as in Oblivions] -- except Soft Shadows -- taking the performance hit [which was actually playable at 10x7] .... NWN2's gfx ARE inferior to Oblivions --- in my opinion. i will have a x1950p next month so i can comment even further.

Do you think NWN2's are as good?
:Q

finally i think it is damn annoying it took 10 days to get a simple patch up
:thumbsdown:

I dont think the graphics equate oblivions, but you have to consider the community they are playing to. You cant have 80 monsters on screen in oblivion. Furthermore i think NWN2 does have superior shadows, especially with multiple light sources. The models are definately lower detail, but theres a reason for it.

As for the combat system, i dont know how you could be mislead, its the same as nwn.

And how long would it take you to write a patch for a game thats 5GB? They are going to have a 3rd out by thanksgiving.

feel free to excuse it's shortcomings.

as to the patch . . . they had it for thed autoupdater from Day One ... it took 10 days to simply make it available as standalone
:thumbsdown:

i realize the community ... now

and still i am disappointed in the gfx - COMPARED to oblivions .... the [more] multiple light sources are the only point in its favour

and actually you can fill the screen with NPCs in Oblivion .... i never counted them .... i'd say 'maybe 50'
[i.e. try Halarity Mod ... you can summon a couple of Giants and have a huge Mob of people fighting each other while you are raining huge bolders down on them and casting lightening spells in changing weather ... one pile of bodies that Maxx made was impossible to loot completely ...
:Q

... can you do THAT in NWN2?]


as to the combat style, i never played NWN ... and was mislead.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: apoppin
thanks Bateluer, for posting those patch links

just unzip the patch[es] into the NWN2 install directory and then run the Auto Updater whilst connected to the 'net ... it finds the patch[es] and automatically updates them. Run "update" twice to get both of 'em.

and it worked fine. i finally can actually PLAY the game without SERIOUS performance issues ... well, except for the occasional hard lockup.

.... and i have to say this game is FUGLY . . .

.... well compared to Oblivion which it inevitably will be . . .

after the patch, my P4 @ 3.2GHZ/x850xt/1GB PC3500 runs everything at 11x8, everything 'on' and mostly maxed ['cept textures and NO soft shadows/maps medium etc.] -- even with miniminal AA/AF although i have not got into any heavy battles yet ... so acceptable

and enough to know this is no 'next gen' graphics
:thumbsdown:

but i get it ... it's the 'story' :moon:

and i hope it is Damn Good 'cause NWN2 is everything i hate in D&D games
[top down camera view/point and click to move/unreal combat/and a billion things to memorize]
:roll:

You obviously dont like the entire genre, why would you buy the game and bitch...

As for the graphics, if you cant run max settings, you cant really comment on that either.

rubbish

i LOVED KotOR . . . and it is very comparable gameplaywise. EVERTHING for me - in this type of game depends on STORY [i am hoping for a great one]
[and i was mislead on NWN2's combat style]

i don't play Oblivion at Max setting either . . . in fact they are very similar settings . . . so yes, i CAN comment. Oblivion is awesome gfx and far more fluid than NWN2's on my system.

Lighting is nicer and the character's motion is much more 'alive'

PLUS i DID play at maxed out gfx [as in Oblivions] -- except Soft Shadows -- taking the performance hit [which was actually playable at 10x7] .... NWN2's gfx ARE inferior to Oblivions --- in my opinion. i will have a x1950p next month so i can comment even further.

Do you think NWN2's are as good?
:Q

finally i think it is damn annoying it took 10 days to get a simple patch up
:thumbsdown:

I dont think the graphics equate oblivions, but you have to consider the community they are playing to. You cant have 80 monsters on screen in oblivion. Furthermore i think NWN2 does have superior shadows, especially with multiple light sources. The models are definately lower detail, but theres a reason for it.

As for the combat system, i dont know how you could be mislead, its the same as nwn.

And how long would it take you to write a patch for a game thats 5GB? They are going to have a 3rd out by thanksgiving.

feel free to excuse it's shortcomings.

as to the patch . . . they had it for thed autoupdater from Day One ... it took 10 days to simply make it available as standalone
:thumbsdown:

i realize the community ... now

and still i am disappointed in the gfx - COMPARED to oblivions .... the [more] multiple light sources are the only point in its favour

and actually you can fill the screen with NPCs in Oblivion .... i never counted them .... i'd say 'maybe 50'
[i.e. try Halarity Mod ... you can summon a couple of Giants and have a huge Mob of people fighting each other while you are raining huge bolders down on them and casting lightening spells in changing weather ... one pile of bodies that Maxx made was impossible to loot completely ...
:Q

... can you do THAT in NWN2?]


as to the combat style, i never played NWN ... and was mislead.

That sucks about the combat, whoever told you that should be kicked in the balls. Some people dont mind it, some people loathe it.

 

[apoppin]

no worries .... it ALL depends on the story ... for me
KotOR had very similar combat ,,,, i realize you have to make you char SO strong [together] they are unstoppable no matter the dice rolls [i think i had 3 jedi masters for the final showdown .... piece o' cake ... delicious also]




how is it ... so far?

[now that i have NWN2 working, i am gonna reinstall my OS tomight .... i got sick of the NWN2 'workarounds' and might have messed something up ... maybe ... not taking any chances]

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: apoppin
no worries .... it ALL depends on the story ... for me
KotOR had very similar combat ,,,, i realize you have to make you char SO strong [together] they are unstoppable no matter the dice rolls [i think i had 3 jedi masters for the final showdown .... piece o' cake ... delicious also]




how is it ... so far?

[now that i have NWN2 working, i am gonna reinstall my OS tomight .... i got sick of the NWN2 'workarounds' and might have messed something up ... maybe ... not taking any chances]

I jumped straight into the editor, thats where all my replay value in the game is

Ill probably play the campaign next weekend.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Just so you guys know, someone has posted on the NWN2 Bioware forums that the poor performance may be attributable to a bad .NET 2.0 install off the NWN2 disk. He claims that his friend went from the game being totally unplayable to playable after a fresh install of .NET 2.0 + patch direct from the MS website.

Thats interesting, I haven't heard that yet. I had Dot Net 2.0 installed prior to installing NWN2, so I have no idea if NWN2 reinstalled it or not.

I've only dabbled a little bit with the editor myself, seems fairly simple, but I didn't dig into it much. I check the NWN2 modules at NWVault, but so far there hasn't been anything much beyond 'trainer' modules.

I'm also a pretty big fan of D&D games, and buy most of them. FPS/RPG hybrids like Oblivion are fun for a little while, but their weak stories and dismal dialogue usually limit the game's replayability for me.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Just so you guys know, someone has posted on the NWN2 Bioware forums that the poor performance may be attributable to a bad .NET 2.0 install off the NWN2 disk. He claims that his friend went from the game being totally unplayable to playable after a fresh install of .NET 2.0 + patch direct from the MS website.

Thats interesting, I haven't heard that yet. I had Dot Net 2.0 installed prior to installing NWN2, so I have no idea if NWN2 reinstalled it or not.

I've only dabbled a little bit with the editor myself, seems fairly simple, but I didn't dig into it much. I check the NWN2 modules at NWVault, but so far there hasn't been anything much beyond 'trainer' modules.

I'm also a pretty big fan of D&D games, and buy most of them. FPS/RPG hybrids like Oblivion are fun for a little while, but their weak stories and dismal dialogue usually limit the game's replayability for me.

If you play the original NWN at all, try the Dreamcatcher series, theres 5 or 6, very well done.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Acanthus


If you play the original NWN at all, try the Dreamcatcher series, theres 5 or 6, very well done.

I started Dreamcatcher, but something came up and I had to stop playing it at DC2.