Discussion NY AG has evidence Trump golf club gave out fraudulent green cards

[Commodus]

The club also handed out bogus Social Security numbers. And the kicker: because the state attorney general didn't trust Sessions (no good person does), the FBI and Mueller are investigating.

This feels like the sort of news I'd want to see spread as far as possible. Trump is perfectly tolerant of illegal immigration as long as you're working for him. Otherwise, it's really just a talking point to drum up votes from hateful and easily frightened conservatives.

 

[TheVrolok]

... lol? Is that the right response here? I don't even.

 

[K1052]

Lock him up?

 

[Greenman]

Somebody will go to prison over this one if it's accurate.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Anyone tired of winning yet?

 

[ivwshane]

Somebody will go to prison over this one if it's accurate.

I highly doubt it.

 

[pcgeek11]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

 

[Commodus]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

C'mon, really? You're going to pass the buck here? This is a man who knowingly commits fraud with virtually every business he operates. He stiffs contractors, settled a Trump University fraud and uses charities as shells for personal donations. I won't completely rule out that he's oblivious, but history suggests he knows and either doesn't care or willingly embraced it.

 

[Indus]

Well now he's stiffing his own government employees.

Don't wanna get paid for your hard work.. work for Trump!!!!

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

Sort of agree but I have to wonder what the reaction would be if this involved President Hillary.
I’m guessing there would be a Benghazi & Uranium One shit fit all in one messy package.

 

[Vic]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

And who do those managers report to?

 

[jman19]

And who do those managers report to?

Please. We all know the buck doesn’t stop with the Donald. Nothing is his fault - and the acolytes eat it up.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

Accountable means the business is accountable as well. "I didn't know" by owners isn't mitigating. The most serious potential outcome is that business licenses can be yanked and the club shuttered.

 

[Meghan54]

Accountable means the business is accountable as well. "I didn't know" by owners isn't mitigating. The most serious potential outcome is that business licenses can be yanked and the club shuttered.

Remember, Trump is a micromanager. Look at the stories surrounding the hotels they've put their names upon. Even when Trump is only the name and not the actual developer, Trump maintains very tight control, to the point of being the one to authorize paint colors, fabric on upholstery, etc., etc.

I cannot fathom that Trump didn't know exactly what was going on with employee hires, esp. hiring of illegal immigrants.

 

[pcgeek11]

C'mon, really? You're going to pass the buck here? This is a man who knowingly commits fraud with virtually every business he operates. He stiffs contractors, settled a Trump University fraud and uses charities as shells for personal donations. I won't completely rule out that he's oblivious, but history suggests he knows and either doesn't care or willingly embraced it.

Sort of agree but I have to wonder what the reaction would be if this involved President Hillary.
I’m guessing there would be a Benghazi & Uranium One shit fit all in one messy package.

And who do those managers report to?

Please. We all know the buck doesn’t stop with the Donald. Nothing is his fault - and the acolytes eat it up.

He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

 

[Vic]

He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

But of course you're quick to use this supposed absence of facts to justify the least likely assumption.

 

[cytg111]

He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

- Jesus Christ. Just like he may or may not know about the "adoptions" in trump tower. This many flies and there is bound to be shit. A lot of shit.

 

[pcgeek11]

But of course you're quick to use this supposed absence of facts to justify the least likely assumption.

Why is it the least likely? It is more likely that he doesn't know about it IMO.

I do not think he has the time or inclination to micromanage all of his many ventures to this level.

I'm not justifying the actions or if they are even true or not. We do not know for a fact that he knew or did not know. But of course you pretend to know and are ready to convict based solely on that.

 

[pcgeek11]

- Jesus Christ. Just like he may or may not know about the "adoptions" in trump tower. This many flies and there is bound to be shit. A lot of shit.

Meh.

 

[cytg111]

Meh.

And we must rationalize why so many Trumpsters are giving so many passes to the Donald is because they are doing nefarious shit themselves they dont want to be accountable for.

 

[Vic]

Why is it the least likely? It is more likely that he doesn't know about it IMO.

I do not think he has the time or inclination to micromanage all of his many ventures to this level.

I'm not justifying the actions or if they are even true or not. We do not know for a fact that he knew or did not know. But of course you pretend to know and are ready to convict based solely on that.

Trump is infamous as a micromanager, so it is entirely likely he does have that inclination.

And this isn't a conviction, drama queen. I would like to see this investigated further, so that we do know the facts regardless of where they might lead. While the purpose of your argument is to stifle discussion and investigation because of who the facts might lead to.

 

[Jhhnn]

He may know then again he may not. There are many many cases where the managers of business' are guilty of crimes and the actual owners know nothing about it. But of course this is Trump and everybody is quick to point fingers with no real facts.

That's a legit point. With enough churn, a hiring guy could get a nice little side hustle kickback going sending people to a friend who will help them replace their missing green card for a fee... The big Boss DGAF anyway.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Sort of agree but I have to wonder what the reaction would be if this involved President Hillary.
I’m guessing there would be a Benghazi & Uranium One shit fit all in one messy package.

Considering they blame the Clintons for just about anyone on the planet who dies I’m guessing they wouldn’t have any issue st all blaming this on them.

 

[zinfamous]

so can we just build the walls around Trump properties to keep all of the illegals out? (rather--trapped inside, and thus keep them out of the US)

 

[zinfamous]

It may not even have anything to do with Trump specifically. It could all be on the club managers.

" NJ AG has evidence that managers at Trump’s golf club gave fraudulent green cards & Social Security numbers to employees. "

And if true they should be held accountable.

lol. you really are a pathetic old man. What won't you defend this old shitburger over?